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[quote name="Bobcat05" post="965589" timestamp="1297588940"]
Little Dribblers? Come on... ::)
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I believe her point is that there is talent in HF area which shows up at the junior high ages. However, when these kids get to high school the results seem to be vastly different. Now I will grant you that kids' talents change as they grow older. Now, how do you explain that the talent at every other school leap frogs the kids at HF. The problem isn't that HF has trouble making the playoffs, they have trouble even winning a game. This isn't just a basketball problem. Now I read on this board that you can't judge a school by what the do in middle school. But how do you explain every basketball player that comes through HF getting leap frogged in talent by every player at every school. This is why parents who have kids with athletic talent often look to move their kids before they get to high school. It is mind boggling.

Not sure of the score, but heard BC won by 1.

Congrats to Kyle and his parents. Wharton got a steal. Great kid with great skills, attitude and work ethic. Good job my man.

It may just be me, but it seems to come across a lot better when someone other than his parent comes on here tooting his horn. I think it carries a lot more merit if you let someone else praise your kid.

Have to agree with Dove. Bosha had a nice game, but don't grandize it. Most of his points were in mop up time. Gustafson and Prudhomme are the ones that killed us and Southerland is like a coach on the floor. Bosha made his line look good at the end, but he was HJ's 3rd or 4th best player last night. He is going to be a good one, but it's not his team yet.

No reaso is not right. Ref blew his whistle and all the HF players stopped, then HJ scored. It was the right call. Refs have done such a bad job that this game is getting very physical.

The little short bald ref has no business owning a whistle.

Wow! That was some ugly basketball.

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="953386" timestamp="1295809282"]
Who in their right mind would follow HF all season. Most parents who have kids that play for HF don't keep up with them. When is the last time they had a article in the paper or a news segment about HF. Aggie is from a winning school and he follows them. HF will be a winner in some sport here soon. Maybe not this year or next year but soon. Keep that hope alive with moral victories vs Silsbee. When they beat yall by 80 next game don't say I told you so.
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Here are two in the last week and a half:

http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/sports/hs/article/Hamshire-Fannett-softball-players-sign-970640.php

The first one also appeared on all three news stations.

http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/sports/hs/article/Interview-with-Hamshire-Fannett-shooting-guard-955301.php

Maybe Badsanta should change his name to "Badinfo" or "TypesAnythingRightOrWrong"

[quote name="bleed orange" post="951531" timestamp="1295496250"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=78975.msg951516#msg951516 date=1295494853]
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[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=78975.msg951497#msg951497 date=1295493555]
[quote author=bleed orange link=topic=78975.msg951451#msg951451 date=1295489753]
HF is hard to firgure out. I don't know about now but their little dribblers program was strong. They always put solid teams on the floor. But when they get to High School they seem to underachieve. I don't understand. Not knocking Bridge City, have seen them play. Their inside game is much improved but they still lack the fundamentals needed to go to that next level. I thought that maybe club volleyball was hurting their basketball program but I was told not many players on the basketball team are playing club volleyball. That is why I cannot firgure them out. In the past IMO it was club Volleyball.
[/quote]Same with boys. Strong in middle school.
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I don't think it is coaches, I think kids lose interest. The girls have been losing numbers for the last 10 years that I know of.  Most of the classes at Orangefield have 1 maybe 2 seniors on the team. In 2007 we had 7 seniors, that is a rarity. Again I have a opinion but still don't understand. Back when I played we had some good athlete's that quit but there was enough to fill the void. Now it seems there is not enough.
[/quote]Good point. Kids probably sign up for X-Box tournaments or stay home on FaceBook ;)


That is good Dove. I am on facebook as we speak. LOL!!!!!!  Don't forget about the Wii.
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This team is very different from the little dribblers group that was successful. This group is different from the group that won in junior high. This is definitely a guard dominated team, but Guilhaus, Crawford and the freshman don't have much help. It is not from a lack of effort, but something just seems to be missing. This team is a good example of players that could definitely help dropping out of the program. They need to be more agressive and attack the basket. Way too passive and too many jump shots.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="951303" timestamp="1295473752"]
Just curious but whenever HF tends to run more, they seem to play better IMHO. I mean, the tempo up and when the fast break wasn't there, they ran their sets and looked inside for the bigs, or hit the open shots, IMHO. Or did someone else see it differently?
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The reason is because we are tall and not big. Everyone keeps talking about our bigs. We don't have bigs, but our varsity is blessed with tall slender built players. We have a 6'2" and a 6'5" that are both under 200 lbs. These kids are not built for banging. We have 2 6'5"s that are not bangers. They play away from contact. A lot of people suggest that we slow the tempo and use our size, but this plays away from their strengths. Our talls shoot jump hooks and fade aways. Our talls are built for running, not banging.

This is going to sound like I am knocking OF, but I'm not. HF was much more athletic than OF, but we continually walked the ball up  the court. HF let OF control the tempo, which was to OF's advantage. HF should have run them out of the gym, but all we did was walk the ball up when we had it and slap at the ball when they had it. I sat behind the OF bench and your coach did a good job. His strategy won the game for OF. Coaching definitely won this game.

Final
HF 90
Sabine Pass 37

HF 53-25 after 3

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="943424" timestamp="1294341852"]
[quote author=Temple Dad link=topic=78347.msg943406#msg943406 date=1294340171]
For a kid 12 years old, he can handle the rock. I didn't really see or hear anyone trying to make him out to more than what he is. Most 12 year olds take two dribbles and it goes off of their foot, so give the kid his due. He has got some skills.
[/quote]I was getting back at Stevie Nash. He likes Bob Cousy
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Who's Bob Cousy?

For a kid 12 years old, he can handle the rock. I didn't really see or hear anyone trying to make him out to more than what he is. Most 12 year olds take two dribbles and it goes off of their foot, so give the kid his due. He has got some skills.

Silsbee vs. [b]Huffman[/b]
[b]Kirbyville[/b] vs. Brownsboro
Galena Park vs. [b]Beaumont Central[/b]
[b]Nederland[/b] vs. Crosby
Barbers Hill vs. [b]Port Neches-Groves[/b]
Bridge City vs. [b]Coldspring[/b]
[b]West Orange-Stark [/b] vs. Liberty
[b]Anahuac[/b] vs. Jefferson
[b]Newton[/b] vs. White Oak
[b]Groveton[/b] vs. Arp
[b]New Waverly [/b] vs. Frankston
[b]Moody[/b] vs. West Sabine
[b]Normangee[/b] vs. Hull-Daisetta
High Island vs. [b]Milano[/b]
[b]Burkeville [/b] vs. Bartlett
[b]Hallettsville Sacred Heart [/b] vs. Beaumont Legacy
[b]Pasadena Dobie [/b] vs. Beaumont West Brook
Port Arthur Memorial vs. [b]Pasadena Memorial[/b]
[b]Brenham[/b] vs. Kingwood Park

[b]Port Arthur Memorial [/b] vs. Baytown Sterling
[b]West Brook [/b] vs. La Porte
[b]Barbers Hill [/b] vs. Crosby
Central vs. [b]PN-G[/b]
Ozen vs. [b]Lumberton[/b]
[b]LC-M[/b] vs. Nederland
[b]Vidor[/b] vs. Livingston
[b]Diboll[/b] vs. Jasper
Center vs. [b]Kirbyville[/b]
Hamshire-Fannett vs. [b]Silsbee[/b]
[b]Bridge City [/b] vs. Orangefield
[b]WO-S[/b] vs. Hardin-Jefferson
[b]Coldspring[/b] vs. Liberty
[b]Anahuac[/b] vs. Hardin
[b]Buna[/b] vs. Woodville
Kountze vs. [b]Newton[/b]
Warren vs. [b]East Chambers[/b]
Corrigan-Camden vs. [b]Groveton[/b]
Burkeville vs. [b]Sabine Pass[/b]
[b]Evadale[/b] vs. High Island

La Porte at [b]Port Arthur Memorial[/b]
Channelview at [b]West Brook[/b]
Lumberton at [b]Beaumont Central[/b]
[b]Nederland[/b] at Beaumont Ozen
Livingston at [b]Little Cypress-Mauriceville[/b]
[b]Port Neches-Groves[/b] at Vidor
Crosby at [b]Dayton[/b]
[b]Kirbyville[/b] at Diboll
[b]Bridge City[/b] at Hamshire-Fannett
Hardin-Jefferson at [b]Orangefield[/b]
Silsbee at [b]West Orange-Stark[/b]
[b]Huffman[/b] at Coldspring
[b]Newton[/b] at Anahuac
[b]East Chambers [/b] at Buna
[b]Hardin[/b] at Warren
[b]Woodville[/b] at Kountze
Groveton at [b]New Waverly[/b]
West Hardin at [b]Colmesneil[/b]
[b]Lovelady[/b] at Hull-Daisetta
High Island at [b]Sabine Pass[/b]

Port Arthur Memorial at [b]Beaumont West Brook[/b]
[b]Barbers Hill[/b] at Galena Park
[b]Dayton[/b] at North Forest
[b]Beaumont Central [/b] at Vidor
Beaumont Ozen at [b]Livingston[/b]
Little Cypress-Mauriceville at [b]Port Neches-Groves[/b]
Lumberton at [b]Nederland[/b]
Jasper at [b]Kirbyville[/b]
[b]West Orange-Stark[/b] at Bridge City
[b]Silsbee [/b] at Hardin-Jefferson
Splendora at[b] Liberty[/b]
[b]Anahuac[/b] at Woodville
Hardin at[b] Newton[/b]
Kountze at [b]East Chambers[/b]
Warren at [b]Buna[/b]
[b]New Waverly[/b] at Deweyville
West Sabine at [b]Lovelady[/b]
[b]Hull-Daisetta[/b] at West Hardin
[b]Evadale[/b] at Sabine Pass
[b]Brenham[/b] at Houston Northbrook

[b]West Brook [/b] at North Shore
Montgomery at [b]Brenham[/b]
Channelview at [b]Port Arthur Memorial[/b]
Goose Creek Memorial at [b]Dayton[/b]
Livingston at [b]Lumberton[/b]
[b]Nederland[/b] at Beaumont Central
Vidor at [b]LC-M[/b]
[b]PNG[/b] at Ozen
Huntington at [b]Jasper[/b]
[b]Bridge City[/b] at Silsbee
Hardin-Jefferson at [b]Hamshire-Fannett[/b]
Orangefield at [b]WO-S[/b]
East Chambers at [b]Anahuac[/b]
[b]Buna[/b] at Kountze
[b]Newton[/b] at Warren
[b]Woodville[/b] at Hardin
[b]Deweyville[/b] at Groveton
[b]Colmesneil[/b] at Hull-Daisetta
[b]West Hardin[/b] at West Sabine
[b]Burkeville[/b] at High Island

Central @ [b]LCM[/b]
Bay Sterling @ [b]West Brook[/b]
GP North Shore @[b] Memorial[/b]
[b]Barbers Hill [/b] @ North Forest
[b]Dayton[/b] @ Baytown Lee
Friendswood @ [b]La Marque[/b]
Ozen @ [b]Vidor[/b]
Lumberton @ [b]PNG[/b]
[b]Nederland[/b] @ Livingston
[b]Jasper[/b] @ Center
[b]Kirbyville[/b] @ Huntington
[b]Bridge City [/b] @ Hardin Jefferson
[b]Silsbee[/b] @ Orangefield
[b]WOS[/b] @ Hamshire Fannett
Hardin @ [b]East Chambers[/b]
[b]Anahuac[/b] @ Buna
[b]Newton[/b] @ Woodville
Warren @ [b]Kountze[/b]
[b]Deweyville[/b] @ San Augustine
[b]Evadale[/b] @ Burkeville

[b]Kirbyville[/b] @ WOS
East Chambers @ [b]Newton[/b]
[b]Baytown Lee [/b] @ Barbers Hill
CE King @ [b]Goose Creek[/b]
North Forest @ [b]Crosby[/b]
[b]Dayton[/b] @ Galena park
[b]Central[/b] @ Livingston
[b]LCM[/b] @ Ozen
[b]PNG[/b] @ Nederland
[b]Vidor[/b] @ Lumberton
[b]Cleveland[/b] @ Splendora
[b]Coldspring[/b] @ Shepherd
Buna @ [b]Hardin[/b]
Kountze @ [b]Anahuac[/b]
Orangefield @[b] Jasper[/b]
[b]High Island [/b] @ West Hardin
Sabine Pass @ [b]Colmesneil[/b]Rusk @ Diboll
[b]Corrigan Camden [/b] @ Crockett
West Sabine @ [b]Mt Enterprise[/b]

[b]LaPorte[/b] @ Deer Park
Tyler Lee @ [b]West Brook[/b]
Barbers Hill @ [b]Dayton[/b]
[b]Crosby[/b] @ Baytown Lee
[b]Ozen[/b] @ Central
Livingston @ [b]PNG[/b]
[b]Nederland[/b] @ Vidor
[b]Lumberton[/b] @ LCM
[b]Hardin[/b] @ Kountze
[b]Anahuac[/b] @ Warren
[b]Kirbyvville[/b] @ Wills Point
[b]Newton[/b] @ Buna
Woodville @ [b]East Chambers[/b]
[b]PA Memorial [/b] @ South Houston
Hamshire Fannett @ [b]Beau Kelly[/b]
Hardin Jefferson @ [b]Diboll[/b]
[b]Jasper [/b] @ Silsbee
Stafford @ [b]Bridge City[/b]
Hull Daisetta @ [b]Deweyville[/b]
West Hardin @ [b]Evadale[/b]

[b]Katy[/b] @ West Brook
[b]PAMemorial[/b] @ Aldine
[b]Aldine Eisenhower [/b] @ Dayton
[b]Livingston[/b] @ Huntsville
[b]Kelly[/b] @ Liberty
[b]Coldspring[/b] @ Orangfield
Bridge City @ [b]Kirbyville[/b]
Burkeville @ [b]Deweyville[/b]
East Chambers @ [b]Hardin Jefferson[/b]
[b]Huffman[/b] @ Hamshire Fannett
Jasper @ [b]WOS[/b]
Silsbee @ [b]Newton[/b]
[b]Buna[/b] @ Hemphill
West Hardin @ [b]Kountze[/b]
[b]Diboll[/b] @ Sheperd
[b]Tarkington[/b] @ Hull Daisetta
Beaumont Legacy @ [b]Sabine Pass[/b]
Houston Washington @ [b]Cleveland[/b]
[b]Brazosport Christain [/b] @ Chester
[b]Evadale [/b] @ Colmesneil