Swagg3364

I'm gonna predict this thread gets shut down before the first game.  That's my prediction! !!!

Great series all weekend! !!!  Two well coached teams.

Two great baseball games.  Now let's finish.   Geaux tigers!!!!

4 hours ago, Silsbee92 said:

Yes sir.  Look for K. Barnes to start getting some looks as well.

gonna go out on a limb and say the following will be also:

A. Thomas 

M. McCain 

Think your still holding on to the trunk with one hand...  lol!!!

Good lord...  they are playing football on the baseball field.

That makes perfect sense... We actually practice a play similar to that.  Both Comstock and Sundgren did a great job!  Classic pitchers duel!! Let's finish Tigers!!

Cards in two.  District race has prepared all our teams!

Shepherd and Tarkington are playing now.  Winner plays Silsbee.

Any updates?

Coin flip

One of the related articles states that the rule is going to be dropped this August. 

Knew HF was going to get someone.  They have been playing much better than their record!!!

18 minutes ago, AthleticSupporter - Jock said:

I could interview 100 random students on Lamar's campus and probably could not find one that is paying $22K/yr "out of pocket".  You saying 22K/yr is like telling me I'm going to pay the MSRP on the next vehicle I buy.  Come on kid.

 

Dear Jockstrap,

Don't trust me go to www.collegeforalltexans.com.  It has the average costs for every college in the great State of Texas.  Actually it is $22,466 per year, which comes to $112,330 TT&L.  The students don't know because their parents are the ones paying the $$$.  Come on kid!!

1 hour ago, callumlikeiseeum said:

4 minutes ago, AthleticSupporter - Jock said:

Well, since you asked, most public colleges/universities would fall into this price range.  Now if it took you 8-10 years to make it through Lamar then I could understand why you are confused.

 

Do you know me????  LOL.  Actually Lamar - tuition, room and board is $22,000.00 a year for 15 hours fall and spring.  Just going fall and spring; it would take you probably 5 years.  That is $110k, if my pea brain got the math right.  Looked it up before I posted... so I wouldn't look like a DA.  Just cause we may be on different sides of an opinion....  does not really give you the right to start throwing personal insults.  JS

 

Was just stating that was an exaggeration of the facts.  As far as the rest, I have heard it all.  Heck even from some of the parents who's kids are playing next to mine.  Couple of points...  first, nothing about select baseball that takes away from that sense of community pride.  Second,  youth sports whether you are talking soccer, cheerleading, gymnastics, baseball, football,... is big business.  Even colleges are in on the gig.  I get two or three emails a week from colleges wanting my son to come to their prospect camp.  Guess what... they all cost money.  Then there is the recruiting services, talk about a racket.  Do these select ball coaches and teams get a player more exposure....  absolutely.  Do they make calls on behalf of your kid...  absolutely.  Would some of these kids get scholarships anyway... absolutely.  So what does that all mean nothing...  absolutely nothing other than it is each parents personal decision to do what they think is best for their kid.  But to just blindly blame select baseball for causing all the repetitive motion injuries and everything else that is wrong with the sport, is just flat out wrong.

1 hour ago, callumlikeiseeum said:

How did we go from fifty to fifty thousand?

Here is one man's opinion on how and why the problem might have developed.  In 1990, only the elite player from this area played true select baseball.  The John Pattersons and the Brian Sanchezes of the area.  The rest of the kids played HS ball, a few summer ball games with their HS teammates, and those not in football played a few fall ball games with their HS teammates. 

At this time in history it cost the local kid $50 bucks a year to play the game we love. 

Then some folks saw people in Houston and Dallas making big money from showcase teams.  It spread to this area and several who were self proclaimed baseball instructors in our area began to do the same here in the summers.  All you had to be was a successful former player or someone who coached (or raised) a successful former player, and you could line em up and churn out the lessons.  Some would do it on the side, some decided to make a run at doing it for a living.  Those in the second group had to expand so they could better capitalize financially on the popularity of our sport.  To do this they had to have their guys paying them in the fall as well.  So they went that route.  Some even encouraged many kids not to play other sports so they could keep the flow of that kids parents money into their pockets and they not only coached the kid's teams couple days a week, but for an extra fee, would even coach them more if they would show up a couple more days a week for supplemental lessons on specific parts of the game.  As we currently stand some of these people have figured out how to make quite a living off this great sport.  All they have to do is control the environment. You might could use some of these tactics to sustain profitability 1)  say whatever you have to say to recruit the best kids so you can win ex. tell them its all about the kids 2) it might help to bad mouth anybody else and any other sport that is a threat to taking any kid away from you for any amount of time which would result in a decrease your annual income. 3)  when you finally have the hook set on the kid and their parents go to work on them that you are the only person they need to succeed.  Tell them their high school coach wont help them play at the next level. Tell them that in all actuality they need not even play high school baseball because you are their ticket. The day enough moms and dads believe that, is the day that baseball in our area has been ruined by greed.

Remember that $50 it used to cost to play? Over the course of 10 or 12 years, many families are spending 30? 40? 50,000? dollars doing all of this (more if have injuries from overuse).  FYI guys.  You could pay your own way to college for that.

Ask any college or pro player (that is not in this business, and those that have not drank the koolaid provided by the aforementioned), what were his greatest days in this sport? and the vast majority will tell you, it was putting on their high school uniform and representing their community with the classmates they went to school with since kindergarten.  It was the fight for bragging rights between towns and the right to talk trash with our co-workers the next day at work.  Some in this business must not have played in that environment and loathe their HS experience but they are short changing any kid or kids that they convince those months out of the year should be four more spent in their gym so that the funds keep flowing.

With that said, there are some great people in the area that profit from the great game of baseball, that don't bad mouth others, and participate in America's past time for the right reasons which are the kids and the world's greatest game.  Thank you to those guys.  If this is you, you will not be offended by what I have written here today. 

callumlikeiseeum   

Can someone please let me know which college or colleges are providing degrees for $30k, 40k, or even 50k, because I want to sign up now before all the spots are taken!!!

17 minutes ago, fox said:

2 hours ago, fox said:

there are lots of other things you can blame the select /showcase culture for......

 

Actually I was just trying to bait you in to tell us what we could blame on select/showcase culture.  Cause I think I might know where you were heading...

Like creating the best generation of baseball players to ever play the game?  Just to back myself up... have read several articles that suggest this.  I'm gonna need a bigger spoon!!!

44 minutes ago, Swagg3364 said:

Gonna defend Select Baseball a little bit.  Most select teams at the high school level play June & July.  Take off August and may play a few Sunday DH games in the fall.  The coaches in select ball at the high school level are more about getting their kids seen and giving them the opportunity to get to play at the next level, than winning games... hence the term showcase!!!  Pitch counts are usually much lower in Select than in High School.  Select takes a bad rap for a lot...  some of it may be deserved, but a lot of it is not!!!  Do kids need down time, and not play year round?  Not going to argue that point, but that is up to the individual kid and parents to determine if and/or how to accomplish that.

I have agreed with that from the beginning.  Just was making the point that he was not representing the facts 100%, and that college players play more than 5 1/2 months,  much more.  But to point the finger at select ball and say that is the problem is like point the finger at guns and say that the have to be banned because they kill people.  People pull the trigger, just like parents (people) have to decide what is right for their son or daughter (how much down time do they need).  To blame just select baseball is a short sided generalization.

High school actually does have fall ball and now has baseball athletics....  I see by your user that you are a basketball person...  do think all these high school basketball players should stop playing in their summer leagues.  Colleges have a fall practice session and players play in summer leagues after their college season!!!

Gonna defend Select Baseball a little bit.  Most select teams at the high school level play June & July.  Take off August and may play a few Sunday DH games in the fall.  The coaches in select ball at the high school level are more about getting their kids seen and giving them the opportunity to get to play at the next level, than winning games... hence the term showcase!!!  Pitch counts are usually much lower in Select than in High School.  Select takes a bad rap for a lot...  some of it may be deserved, but a lot of it is not!!!  Do kids need down time, and not play year round?  Not going to argue that point, but that is up to the individual kid and parents to determine if and/or how to accomplish that.

Tigers playing much better of late....  Things seems to be starting to gel...  Tigers roll!!!

See a tight game with both pitchers controlling the other lineup for the most part...  So who can can do the small things and advance runners and scratch a few runs?  Can Silsbee control WOS's speed on the bases and keep forces in play?  Which team plays error free or close to  error free ball?  Think it will come down to one or two key plays....  Silsbee 3-2.

Just a business decision...  Not bs or agenda...   If u were running a business, that hosted nations tournaments every other weekend and someone else came in to run ussa tournaments on your off weekends, you probably wouldn't be real excited about having your organization play in those usssa tournaments either.  As someone who's kid has had the privilege of playing for Mo and Wes for years, I can tell you they are very much about the kids and later on if your kid stays with it...  There is NOBODY that will work harder to get your kid the opportunity to play at the next level than the two of them!!!  

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