VP93....

I posted in a thread earlier which got locked shortly thereafter, but it dealt with this same discussion:
"Lumberton, LC-M, Bridge City, Hamshire Fannett (Include Huffman, if you wish) and other teams that don't consistently win will never consistently win.
It's not because their coach sucks, or there kids "just aren't as big as kids on the other team" or because select baseball or band or because no one gives them a chance or BLAH BLAH BLAH and the sickening list goes on and on...
The kids, the parents, the community, the fans, the school system - they are all complacent.
Until that kid wakes up at 5:30 each morning and gets a run or a lifting workout in before school or goes to the gym on the weekends and eats a good diet to pack on some beneficial muscle mass and gets some other leaders from his team to force all the other kids to join him, then it will never work. Those kids need to be salesmen for the team. Talk it up with the band kids or soccer athletes or baseball players that don't play football and try to get them to play. Until the student athlete takes control of every aspect of his athletic ability and knowledge of his position, then it will never work.
Until the parents quit bitching about the coaches' crappy decisions about who should start at QB, until they nudge their athlete at an early age to condition and stay active and athletic, until every parent of an athlete joins the booster club and actually does more than pay their once a year dues, until they are ALL IN on their town's football program, then it will never work.
Until the community & fans backs the football program like they do at PN-G where season tickets are passed down from generation to generation, until every business owner has the school colors in their windows during football season, until the people who pass an athlete in a letter jacket at the grocery store and tell him "Good Luck" or "Go Bears", until Friday night stands are packed out with folks that don't even have a kid on the team, then it will never work.
What does the school district need to provide? A coaching staff. I'm not knocking ANY of the coaches in our area. Quite frankly, I know several of them, and they are pretty good guys that feed their families by coaching high school sports. But if I have the means, and I want to win, I'm getting the best that's available. Not just from an X's and O's standpoint, but someone that can help turn a program around. Someone that can not only draw up plays and prepare for their opponents week to week, but someone that can help with the kids and the parents and the community issues above. How many coaches of what would be considered average schools in this area have had consistent 4 deep playoff runs? How many have been to state more than once (or ever)? ANY? More like none. Forget the pretty turf stadium (Lumberton, for instance) and spend that money on a coach. Until the school and the community are willing to pay, then it will never work.
A very good friend of mine who has coached at a lot of schools coaches at WOS. He says the atmosphere there is much more different than you find at the "average" schools. Until the atmosphere changes and people quit being complacent, and until it makes each player AND parent AND fan AND school teacher/administrator AND anyone else in the community physically ill to lose, then it will never work.
Winning is not just a goal, but an expectation. Anything less isn't good enough..."
 

When I was coaching, a good friend of mine who is a very successful coach, gave us all some good advice. Before you take a coaching job, look at the size of the band. If the band numbers are larger than the football program numbers, look elsewhere. So now I catch myself always looking at the size of a schools band and booster club in comparison to the size of their football teams and athletic boosters. Tends to show priorities of the community.

Run, pass or whatever they would have done would not change the fact we will always have people like y’all on this site! True fact!! 
 Football banquet Is coming up, I ask you and Coach#23 to attend and introduce yourself to the coaches and team and let them know y’all expertise in football. Heck Babin I’m sure would let you guys/girls be a  special speaker at the banquet  
Not a single coach or player has said this was a succeful year. So until you hear that from them STHU and set in the stands or behind a keyboard and do what you do. Our we proud of our boys  absolutely nothing wrong with that!! 
Maybe you need to read athleticsupporter-jock post..
 
 

Run, pass or whatever they would have done would not change the fact we will always have people like y’all on this site! True fact!! 
 Football banquet Is coming up, I ask you and Coach#23 to attend and introduce yourself to the coaches and team and let them know y’all expertise in football. Heck Babin I’m sure would let you guys/girls be a  special speaker at the banquet  
Not a single coach or player has said this was a succeful year. So until you hear that from them STHU and set in the stands or behind a keyboard and do what you do. Our we proud of our boys  absolutely nothing wrong with that!! 
Maybe you need to read athleticsupporter-jock post..
 
 

Going and speaking with coach Babin would make too much sense. Don’t you know it’s a lot easier to bash a coach and his character on a website? Cowards 

Run, pass or whatever they would have done would not change the fact we will always have people like y’all on this site! True fact!! 
 Football banquet Is coming up, I ask you and Coach#23 to attend and introduce yourself to the coaches and team and let them know y’all expertise in football. Heck Babin I’m sure would let you guys/girls be a  special speaker at the banquet  
Not a single coach or player has said this was a succeful year. So until you hear that from them STHU and set in the stands or behind a keyboard and do what you do. Our we proud of our boys  absolutely nothing wrong with that!! 
Maybe you need to read athleticsupporter-jock post..
 
 

This bolded part of this post should be printed out, framed and put on every athlete’s and parent’s wall. 

40-0 Carthage.

This was just not a good matchup for Lumberton. Henderson had a clear athletic advantage and Lumbertons one dimensional offense was tailor made for Hendo's D. I give y'alls coachs credit...they knew (imo) they were over matched so they tried to shorten the game by draining the play clock...they took chances by going for it on several fourth downs...they faked a punt and recovered an onside kick to start the second half. I know it was disappointing today but nothing wrong with making it a couple rounds into the playoffs. Keep working hard and next year maybe the results will be different. One more thing...95% of the Lumberton fans stayed to the very end of the game...kudos.

I know we all have many things to be thankful for. Most of all our Creator, who sacrificed his only son to give us Eternal life. We also have family, friends and loved ones to be thankful for. But I would like to give thanks for ALL of our children who participate in one way or another to the great game of Texas High School Football!  Also to ALL the coaches, parents, faculty and others who support these young men and women. Not just players, but trainers, cheerleaders, band members, drill teams, flag, twirlers, and anybody else that becomes a part of the AWESOME thing we love so much. I pray that all the teams do their best and are blessed with good health and a memorable experience. Finally, thanks to all you posters and admins for making this site a fun place to chatter about the game of football. Happy Thanksgiving!

L-Town by 1+. Somebody keep the board updated Friday, I have to work. Wish retirement would hurry up and get here.

Hope they win this one - I would love to see all of our area teams move to the next level.

Congrats Splendora

Not at all! Come on, we need all the support we can get...

Final 
38-21 Lumberton 

14-0 Raiders 

This ain't brain surgery.Three days is plenty of time to get them in.

Furr beat them today 41-20!
Lumberton should win but who knows. If you seen the game last night you’d say this game could go either way. 

It's a Houston ISD school...  That fact alone, L-Train should roll...

Whoever goes to the game keep the board updated. I don't get off until 7 so I can't make it.

Try this one 

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If Furr won then navasota would have  been District Champs.  Max Prep has score 28-14 Wheatley but they could be wrong. 
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Yep... sorta same thing Temple did!!
 
Hot seat, please tell more since you know so much about Lumberton and please don’t say anything about the “past” since you like talk about it  
Lumberton was playing not to get hurt it looked like to me , I mean, I’ve seen Junior High fields in better shape then LCMs... didn’t you see the kids dropping left and right. not taking anything from LCM they came to play and won!!  
 

Why the hell didn’t they ground and pound with #23. Those conditions are perfect for a rb like him. I also can’t understand 4th and 1 from your own 12 trying to throw a pass with Lumberton’s current passing lack of success. Lots of questions about that game...

I agree with everything you said except one thing- cheap ole Lumberton ain’t giving a raise lol