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Who said anything about spending 20 million for a dozen kids to get scholarships? All we did was pay a coach and signed 40. Crosby used to have the crappiest stadium in the district. Now that we have a coaching staff in place and renovated the stadium so that more people can attend, the football program alone probably brought in $50,000+ per Friday night. So spending money on athletics grossed Crosby ISD a quarter million dollars in the first semester alone, and I would imagine that's on the low end. So the district is getting a return on it's investment. That's just in addition to the dozens of kids we've signed across the board in all sport recently. I did happen to work with a couple of guys that went to school on the GI bill though. One happens to be from Silsbee too. Every so often he would take off to go get shrapnel removed from his head as it came to the surface, it was still there from when his Hummer was hit by an IED and split in half with the other three occupants dying on scene. My other buddy is somewhat permanently crippled from an accident where his parachute didn't fully open on a training exercise and he did what he called a "burn in(?)" from 800 feet. It's not about always about the free part of it, it's the exposure part that kids might miss an opportunity on. Nobody is calling an average to below average student and begging them to come visit their university because it unlikely they'll even be admitted. However, schools will line up to fly that average to below average "student-athlete" to their campus and get them admitted to school if they can help them win. The average to below average student probably never goes to college and even less likely to graduate if they do. The exposure can change the course for some kids, it can be generation-altering for others that normally wouldn't look at that as an option like my son.

I think the SETX area is falling behind, but I think it's due more to the contraction/stagnation of the entire area in general. It's behind in enrollment, compensation, imagination, facilities and infrastructure as a whole. You can go to south and west Texas and find the exact same issues though. Other than the HISD schools I think the Houston area gets it as far as what it takes to compete. New Caney just built Texan Drive, Katy is building another monster, BH just built a college level indoor facility, Cy-Fair dropped about 60 mil on the Berry Center and even a place like Crosby there was a bond just passed that allocated multi-millions for athletic facilities/improvements. I think that was even after Crosby already spent about a million replacing the old turf with a new rug. Our problem down here is that we're heavy on single high school ISD's. When you have 30k+ students like Mansfield ISD or 50k+ students like Plano ISD then you have a huge tax base to fund a single stadium and more money for individual facilities on campus. Even an inner-city school like Galena Park, which is in the district with North Shore, has a nice facility behind their school where the players can walk straight out of the field house to a field turf practice field. That's because they have over 22k students in the district and a relatively low income, but huge tax base and therefore have nice facilities for a two high school district. At times the mentality in SETX is that "we did it this way in '76, so we can do it again the same way". Until the thinking down here becomes more progressive like that of the Dallas, Austin and Houston area suburbs SETX will be bringing up the rear. With all that being said though, I think WOS and North Shore showed you there's no replacement for a community producing great athletes.

"SOME" kids "ONLY" way, which is totally correct. You stretched it to an all-inclusive statement to cover "non-athletic" kids which plays more towards the soapbox rhetoric you're trying to get across. If they're "non-athletic" then they're not in the conversation and what you said is a moot/duh point. What about the kid like my son who's already 6'/180lbs and is the fastest kid in Crosby's freshman class though? He's from a middle class family and I'm telling you from the horse's mouth that the "ONLY" way he's making it "out" of Crosby is on the gridiron. He knows he's going to make $100k+ rather he steps foot on a college campus or not as long as he doesn't get into any trouble. It's not like that for all kids but for "SOME" it is. About 40% of middle class kids who start college don't finish anyway, however, about 80% of athletes that receive division one scholarships do. So looking at it that way your kid has a better shot at making it "out" if he has a jump-shot or a fast 40. How many more stats/facts would you like me to gather before I challenge you? I can specifically get the "inner-city" type data OzensFinest spoke about and post it but you would look dumb for even questioning it.

He didn't say their success can only be predicted on athletics. He stated his opinion and you stretched it. I have a bachelor's degree in economics with a real estate minor, my wife has a bachelor's in business with an MBA. We have three sons who we push academics on, two get it and one doesn't. I told the one that doesn't get it that the only way he was going to college is if he gets a football scholarship because I'm not paying. I have to press him just to be average. That's how its always been with him. Last night my youngest son wanted me to quiz him on adding two digit numbers that he learned in school yesterday. When I asked him to explain how you get the sums his explanation kind of shocked me. For my own amusement I asked him to apply those same principles to bigger numbers, after learning 10's that day he was adding four digit numbers in his head rather quickly for a first grader. He can also spell his 10 year old brother's advanced spelling words. He can make it out solely on academics, my oldest one can't. So I ask you, as a parent do I stress "academic achievement" to him or try to develop his athletic skills which will be more immediately important in achieving his goals? It's an extremely difficult reality to understand if you haven't experienced it first hand . . . hundreds of times. I wonder how many of the 40+ kids that Crosby has signed the last four years would have gone to college had they not been offered a scholarship?

Come on man, what player did A&M beat out Texas for when Texas was rolling. None of the Aggie stars were offered by Texas, not Johnny, not Von, not McNeal. I think maybe Micheal and Joeckel were the only ones that were offered and didn't come. Read up on Chis Daniels flip from OU and why he chose Texas, very similar to comments made a while ago by Clarence McKinney on why Sumlin connected with kids due to being from the South. Even further, the kids A&M was able to get in those classes you're talking about were never able to a conference title in the lowly Big 12. You usually tuck tail and run because you can't win, A&M didn't and they subsequently left. No other way to really look at it, saying it was a better move for monetary reasons is really admitting to not wanting to be in Texas' shadow. If A&M was the brand they think they are then they should've been able to build a cash cow like Texas has, but they couldn't. Now they're stuck in perpetual mediocrity in the SEC. Fact of the matter is A&M isn't going to get better players than the state school in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia and Tennessee. You can definitely get a better class here or there, but take a look over in Baton Rouge. Les Miles was/is in the same situation as Sumlin and may have just signed his best class ever at LSU going off player averages. All the top prospects A&M wanted went to Ole Miss, including Lodge last year. All that while they ALREADY have better players and coaching than A&M. It's a dim reality. As far as Texas fans being happy, I think it's a given. Watching 59-0 against 'Bama, not being able to move the ball on Auburn, getting steamrolled by LSU backs, playing directional schools all are reality now. The difference in Texas, if you listen to the recruits like Cuffee, is that they all grew up watching Texas dominate and know it can be done again. They've never seen that from A&M, the selling point in College Station is that you get to play in the SEC and we have some nice gadgets. That's over now, kids are back to going where they feel like they have the best shot at winning.

What's interesting is that A&M is placing their faith in two qbs who are no longer at their past Big 12 schools because they couldn't earn a job or were beat out by younger players. I guess Knight and Hubanek weren't Big 12 good but they'll do for the SEC? Yet, of the three highest rated qbs A&M have ever landed, two transfer to the Big 12 and one goes to the AAC after experiencing College Station first hand. That has to be odd considering everyone wants to play in the SEC according to Aggy? What's even more weird is that although everyone wants to play in the SEC, all the top qbs from the state are committed to Big 12 schools. Beuchele and Ehlinger to Texas, Shawn Robinson to TCU and Kellen Mond to Baylor. I've said it many times on here, Kevin Sumlin made A&M a viable option for players that normally wouldn't consider College Station. I don't care if you do get Tom Herman to come coach, him or any other guy won't be able to recruit at the level that Sumlin is. Coaching may be a different story, but if you think running Sumlin out of town is going to get you more wins and better recruits I think you're sadly mistaken. When your own players use words like "gadgets" and "glitz" to describe your program you can almost bet there's no real substance, which I think everybody beside A&M fans saw when they tucked tail and left the Big 12.

I'll put it like this. Your FCS players are usually FBS players that are missing something. Height, weight, speed, grades, etc. I'm not really sure Alec is missing anything, his film just hasn't made the rounds yet. I think he's every bit as good as Collin Wilder or Travis Whillock from Katy who had 22 reported D1 offers between them.

Interesting to see if offer #22 makes Mannie think about A&M more? Maybe the OU one too? Either way it's good times at Crosby, I expect in excess of 50 division one offers between all of our kids by the end of the Spring evaluation period. The two outside receivers should total more than 30 FBS offers themselves.

Dang, Temple must pay pretty well. Hard not to hire Kay coming fresh off a 6A title. I know Kay isn't the AD but I know Aymond was getting paid pretty well, figured with Kay's years of service he would have been pretty close to where Aymond was before he retired. Interesting that the coaches of the last two 6A-D1 champs could both be moving down to 5A to take AD jobs.

Well, I hope he stays around longer than another year or two for Crosby's sake. I don't think Mann's any older than 32 so he have plenty of opportunities going forward. I don't think GCM had enough athletes for him to be successful right away though, like he could be at a place like Humble if West were to leave. Not only is he hustling for the Crosby kids, he's also helping out kids at other schools.

When I watched his film a year and a half ago I said I thought he looked like a left guard but got beat up on here for not knowing what I'm talking about because he was the #2 ranked OT in the country. Kids that are rated that high usually play left tackle and Patrick looks like more of a road-grading run blocker to me. Completely different type of film from Little, Delance and Diesch. I'm sure he doesn't care either way but moving inside is probably a good thing for him, you make less money in the league but probably get 2-3 more prime earning years.

I actually think King has a good chance at being one of the D2 reps from the district. They might be young but the cupboard isn't bare from what I saw playing against them on the lower levels this year, they have another Tray Williams coming(even wears #3) and another Desmond Coleman clone. I saw the freshman qb throw is about 50 yards off his back foot for a TD when we played them. I think CV and Kingwood look like they would be the #3 and #4 teams but CV was heavily depended on hurts and Sewo O. basically carried Kingwood. Now that they're gone I don't think those schools have any advantage at all over King except for the enrollment, which could come into play down the stretch.

I didn't even mention him because I think it's pretty obvious he's going to make it. The only decision with Patrick is if he's going to play guard or tackle. On the film he looks like a right tackle or left guard, could be on the same path as Cam Robinson if he can stay healthy.

Yeah, he really works hard for the kids and gets some of the marginal players opportunities they normally probably wouldn't get. I believe we've signed over 40 players the last four years.

I think there's four of five kids that signed yesterday that have legit shots at playing in the NFL. I think if Whaley stays healthy he's almost a lock to get drafted out of Arky's system, he probably has more natural talent than Collins or Williams. I think Joseph Pickney is a faster version DJ Swearinger, but might have better ball skills at the collegiate level. I see Johnathan Marshall as a little less explosive version of Emmanual Ogbah, might not be as good a pass rusher but will probably be better against the run. Should be able to play DE in both a 4-3 and 3-4 scheme, might get moved inside if he continues to grow though. Two guys I'm not as sure about are Keenan Murphy due to height, but I think he's better than Rex Hadnot at this same stage in his career and Hadnot had a stellar career at UH. The other kid is Innis Gaines from Westbrook. Partly because of the type of player he is and partly because he gets to play for Gary Patterson who has a history of being a great defensive coach. I wouldn't be surprised to see Gaines get some serious run as a true freshman.

Might as well just let PhatMack make it. He's the only Aggy fan on here that isn't delusional and I know it's not the best of days for him. I respect his takes even if we don't agree, now Als-Timer on the other hand . . . . I wonder?

The reason A&M didn't recruit as well isn't because of what's going on, it's because it's A&M. Aggy made their own bed when they went to the SEC to escape Texas and made some headway because of it, mainly due to a player who wished he could've gone to Texas ironically. There's not enough kids that care about A&M's facilities and playing in the SEC to make that constant propaganda line stand up. Kids see A&M getting whipped on a regular basis, the difference when they see Texas lose is that they know there's a chance they can make a difference if they buy in. They also starting to see A&M for what it's always been and will continue to be in the SEC which is a middle of the road program capable of having good years sporadically. Sumlin's pull is wearing off and recruits now see they have to come live in College Station while winning 6-8 games a year. The Mack Brown comment has 0 validity if you follow recruiting. Mack was the king of the early commits which often pushed players ranking without any real substance. Charlie has been ridden two straight years for not getting commits earlier, instead he prefers to put more emphasis on senior year evaluations. For instance, Mack had a kid named Johnny Shaw from Center/WOS committed from early on in his high school career. Anybody who watched his film saw he wasn't at the elite high school safety level, so when Charlie comes in he pulls his offer which infuriated some, he got the "he doesn't know what he's doing" wrap . Turns out the kid was only good enough to go to La. Tech after further evaluations by other recruiters. Would have been a non-contributor at Texas, instead he flips PJ Locke from Oregon at the 11th hour and Locke plays as a true freshman. Mack was a salesman and a southern gentleman, Charlie just a football coach. Like I said a couple of weeks ago, if Aggy can't out-recruit Texas while they're down right now they're the ones that are probably in more trouble than if Texas couldn't out-recruit Aggy. Just think about when Texas starts winning and picking up 25 commitments on 30-something offers like they were doing during the '06 and '09 title game years.

Crosby 2017's so far: Mannie Netherly(WR) - A&M commit, #36 in country, #35 overall in the state Carlos Grace(RB) - UH commit, #65 RB in country, #117 overall in the state Tay'lor Perry(CB) - Big 10 offers, #42 in country, #76 overall in state Jordan Hill(WR) - Offers from Colorado St. and Bowling Green among others, NR Trey Edwards(WR) - Kid that jumped over Dayton defender's head an did 360, No offers yet Alec Lewis(OLB/S) - Should have multiple offers after the Spring evaluation period *Craig Williams(RB) - 2018 247sports 5-star, freshman All-American and currently holds multiple offers Have many other who will get offers but just posted the kids who already have/should get FBS offers

What you saw from North Shore this year was probably the most watered down version of them you'll see for the next five years. They had a linebacker playing qb, still can't catch/throw consistently in the new offense, one of the weaker o-lines they've had in a decade and no elite running back for the first time in a while . . . and STILL won state in the hardest classification of high school football in America. IDK if Klubnik really makes a difference, you still have to get open on their dbs like 5-star LSU commit Eric Monroe and avoid the rush by 4-star freaks like K'Lavon Chaisson. As far as La Vega vs Argyle, it was speed and athleticism versus pure power. Argyle is 0-2 their last two trips to the title game because Navasota and La Vega's athletes trumped Argyle's system. Giving Jon Kay NS' players was a quicker way to a title than giving him Kingwood's money, same thing with coach Tullos and GR's athletes versus maybe having Friendswood's money.

Friendswood is 4-18 against La Marque. They're 5-4 against Dawson which was built up by winning 3 of 4 the first years Dawson had a varsity, they're 2-3 since then against Dawson and barely squeaked by them the past season in OT. It was the first season since the first year Dawson had a varsity that they hadn't at least made the third round regardless of classification. Friendswood beat Manvel the first three years they had a varsity, then proceeded to get smoked like 60-28 and won't play them anymore. I threw La Marque in because with all the money Friendswood has for whatever reason they couldn't beat those boys from the swamp with their poorly run school district and declining enrollment. Sort of like Celina couldn't beat WOS this year, or Westlake beat North Shore or Argyle beat La Vega, etc. You already know how I feel about it though.

Crosby complete 2016 schedule. Looks like BH gets the treatment right out of the box for the 5th straight year to start district play:

Cougar 14.2 juice? You look SAF trying to make a connotation towards me for a post a different member made. I read what he said and chose not to comment on it, but I do understand the inference he's trying to make. The wording probably should've been more tactful(which is weird because I'm totally sure you're against being pc) as not to offend anybody though. Just like I always tell Bronco Pride, it's a heck of a lot easier to find athletes than it is to find money, find a great coach and build a championship type program all at the same time or within a short span of each other. Nobody probably mentioned Friendswood because they're 12-23 against their old district mates like La Marque, Manvel and Dawson who all do it the way Moss was referring to. It's a lot easier to win like the Dayton teams did under Stew than to try to copy Lake Travis' formula. So while Moss' apartment comment was stereotypical and uncouth, I do agree with the gist of what he was saying. All you had to do was look at most of the title games this past season.

Crosby's confirmed non-district schedule Week 1 - Manvel Week 2 - Houston Reagan

I thought PNG was losing a lot to graduation? The only offense they have coming back is McZeal, right? That's a lot of confidence with so many question marks.

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