Dick Vitale

[quote name="Pumper" post="1189751" timestamp="1330632234"] Look, I know the kid and his family, and I know their concerns.  They are real.  You're talking about a kid with options, lots of them.  A stud in hoops, an absolute freak in track, and if he put his mind to it could excel in football and soccer if you can believe that.  He is also in a family situation with options, up to and including moving if need be. On this one, believe me I know.  They hope to stay put, but they might not.  And mid-county is on the table.. And by the way, my sons are absolutely not Nederland kids, so this ain't my concern. [/quote] I believe you and I KNOW that this is the issue as it is with the others as well. This is why I said it will be a very interesting spring and summer as far as that goes.. ;)

[quote name="Pumper" post="1189739" timestamp="1330631781"] And without naming names, [b]I know of one of these Beaumont kids who may seriously consider Nederland [/b] if BISD stays as it is today as far as coaching.  The reason for that is Brian English.  Would rather stay put, but may not if there aren't changes... [/quote] Never, not happening, no way, no how...period, end of that...thank you and enjoy your day! 8)

[quote name="Pumper" post="1189728" timestamp="1330631044"] There is a kid from Marshall who will be a factor around here for a while.  Nederland folks know him from tournament ball.  From what I've seen he is in the top 5 in Bmt for his age.  He had some eligibility issues this year, but won't in the future (or his dad might kill him!). If the current crop of 8th graders decided together where to go (King kids, plus the Marshall kid, etc), it could get interesting.  If there was an obvious choice, i.e. an exceptional coach in the bunch, it would likely happen.  As it is now, who knows.... But I do know that there has been some plotting and planning going on among the kids... [/quote] Will make for a very interesting spring and summer!  ;)

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1189687" timestamp="1330629656"] [quote author=86hawk link=topic=96953.msg1189620#msg1189620 date=1330624621] i assume we will hear the golden pipes of the AAW/Lazeek combo? [/quote] Nope.  Rob and Robb for the HJ game Friday.  AAW will do the Silsbee game. [/quote] That will be the most "homer filled" broadcasting in the history of radio!! ;D ;D 8)

[quote name="stevenash" post="1189724" timestamp="1330630892"] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=96878.msg1189720#msg1189720 date=1330630793] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=96878.msg1189714#msg1189714 date=1330630677] [quote author=CATMAN link=topic=96878.msg1189599#msg1189599 date=1330623265] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=96878.msg1189453#msg1189453 date=1330611883] I hope HJ  or Silsbee wins State. I get tired of mentioning HJ and nobody knows where its located. Will give me a window of opportunity to brag this summer. :o [/quote] Blue lets go steal every thing in HJ no body will be home. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) [/quote]LOL! [/quote] nah, pretty much everybody leaves behind a crazy uncle or cousin with a shotgun, and if they didn't, their neighbor did.  you better stay away. [/quote] I love my fellow loyal and protective red necks. [/quote] CONSERVATIVE ones, no doubt.... ::) ::) ;D

[quote name="stevenash" post="1189722" timestamp="1330630829"] For some it is not a tough job.  Some people are just born with that rare combination of basketball acumen and diplomatic skills. [/quote] Yeah..Its a gift and a curse though... :D 8)

[quote name="stevenash" post="1189718" timestamp="1330630761"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=96878.msg1189705#msg1189705 date=1330630369] I was planning on joining the HJ/Silsbee contingent in Huntsville, but that "social conservative" sign has me concerned... ;D [/quote] I understand.  If the sign isn't posted anywhere, just sit where all the free cell phones are or where you see a sign that says " Occupy Huntsville". [/quote] ;D ;D ;D [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=96878.msg1189714#msg1189714 date=1330630677] [quote author=CATMAN link=topic=96878.msg1189599#msg1189599 date=1330623265] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=96878.msg1189453#msg1189453 date=1330611883] I hope HJ  or Silsbee wins State. I get tired of mentioning HJ and nobody knows where its located. Will give me a window of opportunity to brag this summer. :o [/quote] Blue lets go steal every thing in HJ no body will be home. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) [/quote]LOL! [/quote] That WAS funny, CATMAN....hilarious! ;D ;D 8)

[quote name="stevenash" post="1189713" timestamp="1330630652"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=96858.msg1189709#msg1189709 date=1330630522] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=96858.msg1189706#msg1189706 date=1330630397] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=96858.msg1189655#msg1189655 date=1330627928] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=96858.msg1189643#msg1189643 date=1330626776] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=96858.msg1189627#msg1189627 date=1330625006] [quote author=RR8 link=topic=96858.msg1189566#msg1189566 date=1330620734] Well congratulations to the Dogs for the year they had, and hats off to the Panthers for their success and good luck!!! Ozen and Central will we stacked for a few years to come. Should be some exciting basketball in the future. [/quote] Appreciate it. The Dawgs will be around for a while too. We return 4 starters next year (3 SR/ 1 JR). Plus 5 Returning Letterman (3 SR/ 2 JRs). We also have a promising 8th grade team who will enter HS next year. The CO Wilson group only lost one game (Bmt MLK)) in two seasons. Their record was somewhere in the ballpark of 35-1! English's little brother is on that team!  ;) Will continue to be a 3 way battle for a while!  8) [/quote]Those ML King Middle School kids are in a Central feeder school.  They'll more than likely be suited up in maroon and gray next year.  8) 8) [/quote] Doubt that VERY seriously...You will be surprised where those MLK kids could end up... ;) [/quote]Watch and see.  8) [/quote] OK...I DO know that they are waiting to see where a popular local coach will land...THAT I know for certain... ;)..This came from the MOMMAS.... ;D 8) [/quote] A popular local coach?  One who is diplomatic and respects/honors the opinions of others without demeaning them?  One who can teach the players not only how to play basketball but how to get along with others?  I can't blame them for waiting on that. [/quote] Of course...Its a tough job, but somebody has to do it! ;)

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1189706" timestamp="1330630397"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=96858.msg1189655#msg1189655 date=1330627928] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=96858.msg1189643#msg1189643 date=1330626776] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=96858.msg1189627#msg1189627 date=1330625006] [quote author=RR8 link=topic=96858.msg1189566#msg1189566 date=1330620734] Well congratulations to the Dogs for the year they had, and hats off to the Panthers for their success and good luck!!! Ozen and Central will we stacked for a few years to come. Should be some exciting basketball in the future. [/quote] Appreciate it. The Dawgs will be around for a while too. We return 4 starters next year (3 SR/ 1 JR). Plus 5 Returning Letterman (3 SR/ 2 JRs). We also have a promising 8th grade team who will enter HS next year. The CO Wilson group only lost one game (Bmt MLK)) in two seasons. Their record was somewhere in the ballpark of 35-1! English's little brother is on that team!  ;) Will continue to be a 3 way battle for a while!  8) [/quote]Those ML King Middle School kids are in a Central feeder school.  They'll more than likely be suited up in maroon and gray next year.  8) 8) [/quote] Doubt that VERY seriously...You will be surprised where those MLK kids could end up... ;) [/quote]Watch and see.  8) [/quote] OK...I DO know that they are waiting to see where a popular local coach will land...THAT I know for certain... ;)..This came from the MOMMAS.... ;D 8)

I was planning on joining the HJ/Silsbee contingent in Huntsville, but that "social conservative" sign has me concerned... ;D

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1189676" timestamp="1330629205"] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=96858.msg1189660#msg1189660 date=1330628105] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=96858.msg1189656#msg1189656 date=1330627934] who won out of the jv s [/quote] Ned JV split with Ozen, and I think Central swept Nederland?? So Ned's JV was 11-3. BD3 probably kept up with it a little closer than most. [/quote] I really enjoyed the games. Central and Nederland had really good JV squads, along with Ozen. But Nederland will need more transfers to win outright district for the next 3-4 years. [/quote] They would need Yates and Wheatley to close and then force an emergency bussing system from 3rd and 5th Ward directly into Nederland ISD, in order to have a shot at winning an outright title next year!! ;D ;D...With UIL approval of course!  ;) ;D ;D

[quote name="stevenash" post="1189663" timestamp="1330628475"] You are just mad because you cant claim superior political knowledge just because you worked with Boutte. [/quote] I was BORN with basketball knowledge... 8)....As far as the political arena, I was sheltered from all of that mess as a small child...I have to depend on acquired knowledge and information for that, which makes being a political guru tougher for me... 8)

Hey guys, you never know...If they hire a really good basketball coach, with a solid plan to build that HF program to championship status, along with a football coach that throws that universal off season crap out of the window.....the Little Doves may return to the nest! ;D ;D...You never know! ;)

[quote name="NB-Dawg" post="1189657" timestamp="1330628008"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=96858.msg1189655#msg1189655 date=1330627928] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=96858.msg1189643#msg1189643 date=1330626776] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=96858.msg1189627#msg1189627 date=1330625006] [quote author=RR8 link=topic=96858.msg1189566#msg1189566 date=1330620734] Well congratulations to the Dogs for the year they had, and hats off to the Panthers for their success and good luck!!! Ozen and Central will we stacked for a few years to come. Should be some exciting basketball in the future. [/quote] Appreciate it. The Dawgs will be around for a while too. We return 4 starters next year (3 SR/ 1 JR). Plus 5 Returning Letterman (3 SR/ 2 JRs). We also have a promising 8th grade team who will enter HS next year. The CO Wilson group only lost one game (Bmt MLK)) in two seasons. Their record was somewhere in the ballpark of 35-1! English's little brother is on that team!  ;) Will continue to be a 3 way battle for a while!  8) [/quote]Those ML King Middle School kids are in a Central feeder school.  They'll more than likely be suited up in maroon and gray next year.  8) 8) [/quote] Doubt that VERY seriously...You will be surprised where those MLK kids could end up... ;) [/quote] You're thinking they will end up in Nederland, right??  ;D ;D ;D ;D [/quote] That would start a WAR!!! ;D ;D

Can you two take that political talk to the OTHER forum??  ;D ;D ;D Besides we all know that Obama will be re-elected by a landslide anyway!!  ;D 8)

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1189643" timestamp="1330626776"] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=96858.msg1189627#msg1189627 date=1330625006] [quote author=RR8 link=topic=96858.msg1189566#msg1189566 date=1330620734] Well congratulations to the Dogs for the year they had, and hats off to the Panthers for their success and good luck!!! Ozen and Central will we stacked for a few years to come. Should be some exciting basketball in the future. [/quote] Appreciate it. The Dawgs will be around for a while too. We return 4 starters next year (3 SR/ 1 JR). Plus 5 Returning Letterman (3 SR/ 2 JRs). We also have a promising 8th grade team who will enter HS next year. The CO Wilson group only lost one game (Bmt MLK)) in two seasons. Their record was somewhere in the ballpark of 35-1! English's little brother is on that team!  ;) Will continue to be a 3 way battle for a while!  8) [/quote]Those ML King Middle School kids are in a Central feeder school.  They'll more than likely be suited up in maroon and gray next year.  8) 8) [/quote] Doubt that VERY seriously...You will be surprised where those MLK kids could end up... ;)

Four mid-low major division I players and one NBA player in 15 years is hardly SEVERAL... ::)

You think its bad NOW, you should have seen it a few years ago when ONE writer was covering HS Sports, Sarah Hornaday.... ::) ::)....It was AWFUL COVERAGE!! She tried really hard though, I will give her that much.. 8)

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1189439" timestamp="1330611427"] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=96858.msg1189432#msg1189432 date=1330611280] just having one D1 talent isn't going to win you a state title.... Plus isn't he at a JC [/quote] I was only clarifying that Ozen had a recent true D-1 a several years ago. Nothing to do with winning State ;) [/quote] Fact: Ozen has had 1 pro, and 4 Division I players in 15 years of existence.....That is NOT earth shattering by any means...and the Division I players and schools? Keena Young (BYU), Jason Dabney (TSU), Brandon Chapell (Lamar), and Kris Richards (Tulane)(Jason Breckenridge would have been the fifth, but an ACL injury kept him out of his senior season, he went on to play at Prarie View A&M)....We are not talking Duke, UNC, Kansas type schools here...I think winning a state title is not as easy as people may think it is, and it was DEFINITELY NOT guranteed by having Kendrick Perkins, either... Won it all in 2001 going 36-0, but in 2002, we faced another pro in Chris Bosh, along with 3 other D-1's ON THAT Dallas Lincoln TEAM, then in 2003, The team had Perkins, Young, and 9 sophmores that got most of the minutes and they still finished 34-1 losing in the state title game to FW Dunbar that featured 3 D-1's on that team...It was not a gimme, just because Perk was on the roster...Savaet is not doing a bad job, but the program is not what it once was...NO fault of his, but it was very difficult to follow Boutte in the first place...Kids had to be won over, the community had to be won over, and in the process, Ozen lost some kids that they would have normally gotten...Part of the process...They had to depend on more football kids this year too, than in year's past...It took them a while to get going, but now they are peaking at the right time....Most people just don't understand these facts.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1189077" timestamp="1330550343"] Saveat & staff out coached Nederland staff [/quote] They didn't do bad, but out-coaching them....may be a bit of a stretch...They came out with great intensity, execution, and defended superbly, then in the 2nd quarter they went to that handoff stall game...kinda took the air out of the kids and allowed Nederland to regroup and make a run...They got the W, but they were fortunate in that aspect, because that 2nd quarter could have made a huge difference in the outcome.  In hindsight, Saveat has coached under some tremendous pressure these past few years and has been at the least, respectable..

Good defensive pressure will do that to a team.

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="1189056" timestamp="1330548989"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=96869.msg1189054#msg1189054 date=1330548874] [quote author=uandme08 link=topic=96869.msg1189047#msg1189047 date=1330548696] The Ozen that played last night and the 1st 3 quarters of the game against Humble was not the same team that played Nederland during the 1st district meeting or that showed up in Livingston. I'm curious to know others thoughts on this. Has anybody else noticed a change in coaching as well as playing as a team? [/quote] I think the fact that the football guys (Trey Green, Jakobe Jones, Terran Vaughn) have settled in at this point in the season, has a lot to do with that. [/quote]... other than that late season little snafu at Livingston, eh? [/quote] I think that was a classic "trap" game...not being focused on your current opponent, looking ahead to the one right after...It happens to the best of them..Thats the only thing that makes sense about that one..

[quote name="uandme08" post="1189047" timestamp="1330548696"] The Ozen that played last night and the 1st 3 quarters of the game against Humble was not the same team that played Nederland during the 1st district meeting or that showed up in Livingston. I'm curious to know others thoughts on this. Has anybody else noticed a change in coaching as well as playing as a team? [/quote] I think the fact that the football guys (Trey Green, Jakobe Jones, Terran Vaughn) have settled in at this point in the season, has a lot to do with that.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1188876" timestamp="1330538149"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=96869.msg1188839#msg1188839 date=1330535834] [quote author=uandme08 link=topic=96869.msg1188815#msg1188815 date=1330534544] Fellas, please get back in your respective corners lol. I'd like to go to a Nederland/Ozen thread just one time and actually read about Nederland and Ozen. There's so much to say to "DV", about "DV" and from "DV", start a thread about "DV" PLEASE (heck that thread would probably cause a malfunction to this site). Congratulations to Nederland for all of their accomplishments and good luck to Ozen in the next round (we're going to need it). And again this is only IMO!!!!!!!  Ok I'm off my soapbox now, my apologies  :) [/quote] No sir..Don't want a thread about ME!!  ;D...Somehow though when I post about ANYTHING, posters have a tendency to steer it that way...I just talk basketball... ;) [/quote] Why do you think the above happens?  Did some of these people gather somewhere and say, "let's find a poster that we don't like and try to cause him as much trouble as possible"?  Or could it possibly be that you might have something to do with it?  Who else are they going after besides you?  If we can find another person that they treat the same way, it will be fairly easy to come up with a reason. [/quote] Possibly I am the only poster that speaks his mind on topics, tells the truth about his assessments, and being that bold, am one of the few who most people know my real name...Thus, the personal attacks. Maybe THATS it.