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[quote name="True Blue" post="756250" timestamp="1265495252"] Yes I think this group for EC next year will beat Kountze by dubble didgits. In last nights game 32 of the 47 points were scored by Jrs and with out Walker and Bray Kountze is no better than a 3 place team. [/quote]If you really believe that I've got some land I want to sell you.Walker and Brey are good just like Busby and Powell were who followed Hall and Coffey who followed the Hancocks.You get the picture?Just go to the Kountze gym on Tuesdays this summer and you'll see next years`stars and you'll see why they are successful every year.

I have see EC quite a bit this year.I went and watched them because I thought from reading about them on here they were one of the better clubs in the area.It's great for folks to support their home team and more importantly their own kids but the reason they didn't feed the post last night was because the post play was not effective.For the most part the post players were on the bench.

Kountze is always solid but top to bottom this is the weakest I've seen this district in years.

[quote name="True Blue" post="756170" timestamp="1265486976"] I did not mean to imply that the Refs call a unbalanced game just that they let it get ruff inside, and that is were Ec playes most of their game. They dont have the outside shooters to play with the shooters that Kountze has. They did a good job of shuting down Kountze on the inside they play just as ruff, but Kountze just out shoot them from the out side. As far as Dunigan not playing as big as he should you are right, but if you dont know this is his first year ever to play inside. He has been a guard his whole life. Last year he was only 6'3. He is now 6'7'' and it will take him time to adjust to the inside game and also he play at a 1a level last year the 2a teams are just a little faster and put more pressure on the ball. Next year he will be better perpared to play inside and he will lift all summer Ec will have a large # of Sr comming back so the streak of Kountze going undefeaded at home will come to a end ;D [/quote]I hope you don't look at this group and think they are going to beat Kountze at home.I have nothing against the Dunnigan kid but it doesn't look like he's played much varsity ball.He needs to work on his ball handling skills and shot.More than that though with his heigth he needs to learn to post up and catch the basketball.There is now way a kid at the 2-a level who is even 6'4" should be held to single digits scoring.Are Green and Carr coming back next year?

No doubt about it,this club has improved quite a bit from last years club.

I know 3 teams that would love to be in 4th  ;D ;D ;D

I have officiated with 2 of these guys in the past and they always are fair,like it or not.I saw one of them waive off a mid court bucket at the buzzer by one of my kids one night because he stepped out of bounds as he released it.They gym was packed and the game went in to overtime.He told me months later it was the toughest call he ever made but after I watched the tape it was the right call.IMO last night EC was looking for calls inside instead of playing the game.When you do that against Kountze you're doing what they want you to do and you're dead.

This team is very good but the difference would be the PG,I believe it was Coffey I'm thinking about that's all this group is missing.If they had a true PG they could take some pressure off McDaniel and they would be unreal.The short kid is really stepping up as a shooter.

[quote name="HoopInsider_Cooper" post="755976" timestamp="1265433726"] Andrews will get it right...props to kevin carr tonight. [/quote]Green and Carrington looked pretty good tonight at times.Kountze wants you to try and run with them,they will make you look bad when you do that.

EC has had a top notch coaching staff for years.They had a couple of kids that have improved since I saw them earlier in the season.They hustled and got lots of hustle points tonight.Kountze is probably closer to 40 points better than anyone else in the district this year.They got production from everyone tonight.They will need Roman on the floor though thru the playoffs or they may be in trouble against the better clubs.

[quote name="HoopInsider_Cooper" post="755295" timestamp="1265327788"] [font=Courier]Kountze may be without a starter tomorrow night.... I hope for some that certain players better have a big game tomorrow night or crow will once again be served. When then bright lights come on, let's see if the good players show up. [/font] [/quote]That's how you judge GOOD players.They do show up in big games.

There seems to be a misconception on here about the power a school board member has in hiring a coach.Actually it's not as much as some of you think.A really good coach can turn a program in the right direction but ultimately it's up to the kids to get in the gym and put in the work to be successful.

[quote name="Kris_Gilmore" post="755331" timestamp="1265332507"] Just out of curiosity how many D1 Athletes have come out of HF in all sports in the last 10 years?  Not that many.  I am a coach and people don't realize how talented you have to be in order to get an athletic scholarship.  I can think of 3 or 4, and D2, D3, and Junior colleges don't count. What people don't understand is at the 3A level it sometimes takes more than being the District MVP or making it to the state meet in a particular sport in order to get an athletic scholarship. [/quote]The only thing I disagree with in this statement is D2,D3 and JUCO don't count.You have to be a great player at the 3-a level to even get a look at these colleges.The only basketball player I can remember recently that even got a D1 look was Donahoe from HJ and he was state MVP.

Baytown Lee @ [b]West Brook (-14)[/b] [b](-29)[/b] PAM @ Baytown Sterling [b](-3) Barbers Hill [/b] @ GC Memorial [b](-15)[/b] Crosby @ Dayton [b](-20) Ozen [/b] @ Lumberton Nederland @ [b]Central (-2[/b]) LCM @ [b]Livingston (-3)[/b] [b](-14) PNG [/b] @ Vidor Bridge City @ [b]Silsbee (-28)[/b] [b]Hamshire-Fannett [/b] @ WOS (-29) Orangefield @ [b]Hardin-Jefferson (-24)[/b] (-4) San Augustine @ Kirbyville [b](-18) Newton [/b] @ Shelbyville Hemphill @[b] Woodville (-25)[/b] Warren @[b] Anahuac (-37)[/b] Buna @ [b]Hardin (-4)[/b] [b](-25) Kountze [/b] @ East Chambers [b]High Island [/b] @ Evadale (-39) Hull-Daisetta @ [b]Spurger (-33)[/b] [b](-15) Sabine Pass [/b] @ West Hardin

You've got to have the coaches involved to some degree for the little dribbler programs to be an issue.I have seen lots of good little dribbler,little league teams etc. that never matured in to good school clubs.One of the best little dribbler teams I ever saw was a young group in 2000 that played at Hull Daisetta.They were unreal and never saw them do anything on the school level.

Myself court.I'm gonna quit picking with my heart.This has been ugly lately.

Coaches can make a huge difference in a team ,no doubt about it but it's way to easy for them to get all the blame.I don't buy the weak schedule in HF'S case because they didn't beat a lot of these clubs.Playing tough competition makes you better but if you are getting beat by the cupcakes on your schedule it isn't gonna help you play tougher competition.Usually these coaches know more about the skill sets of these players than the parents do.No one wants to win worse than the coach.

The Sharks are like a roller coaster.You never know from game to game what level they are gonna play at which is unusual for a club with this many seniors.This was a good win for them but the pirates should still be a big favorite.No one should call Spurger a pretender,they were 1 game away from the drum 2 years ago and 1 game away from the regional tournament last year.The young guy coaching them will have them motivated from here on out.

The Lions wwill have to get a handle on the turnovers.You can't beat good teams with 38 turnovers,that's just way to many possessions to give away and expect to win.

It would all depend on what level college program you are talking about.There are several that could coach in the D-3 ranks.To coach in the mid major and major D1 conferences you really have to be a student of te game.It would be tough to do right out of high school.But then again that's all they have to worry about in the college ranks.

With the 2a D1 reclassification and the local 8 team district you are going to have some really good teams staying at home.Someone out of the Newton,EC,Woodville,Anahuac,Buna is really gonna get hosed.This is an awful idea.

That hurt ;D My point was they couldn't win with 23 and 21 TO respectively not that they weren't capable of winning it.Glad I'm not doing standup,this is a tough room. ;D ;D

[b](-4) West Brook [/b] @ Channelview [b](-6) PAM [/b] @ North Shore Vidor @[b] Ozen (-25)[/b] [b](-16) Central [/b] @ Lumberton [b](-5) Nederland [/b] @ LCM Livingston @ [b]PNG (-3)[/b] [b](-4) Kingwood Park [/b] @ Barbers Hill [b](-2) North Forest [/b] @ Dayton (-3) Huntington @ [b]Jasper[/b] [b](-22) Hardin-Jefferson [/b] @ Bridge City [b]Hamshire-Fannett [/b] @ Orangefield (-14) WOS @ [b]Silsbee (-19)[/b] Kirbyville @[b] Woodville (-16)[/b] [b](-17) Newton [/b] @ Hemphill Anahuac @ [b]Kountze (-30)[/b] Deweyville @ [b]Buna (-2)[/b] Warren @ [b]Hardin (-20)[/b] West Hardin @ [b]Evadale (-28)[/b] [b]Hull-Daisetta [/b] @ High Island (-2) [b](-7) Spurger [/b] @ Sabine Pass

AAW, I saw some scoring and rebounding stats for last Fridays game that pitted Silsbee vs HJ but never saw anything about turnovers or free throw percentage.I noticed a lot of folks that seem to think the win gives the Tigers a shot at a state playoff berth.I've gone to a ton of regional tournaments and state tournaments and I don't think either club will win the region with the turnovers and poor ft shooting they had alst week.What do you think and more importantly what did Travis and Todd think about the performance?

I've watched Carrington for years and the injury is what is hampering him this year.He isn't the player he has been in the past.I haven't looked at the UIL bracket yet but I don't see EC going very deep in the playoffs.They will beat the clubs from the prep district toward Houston but that's probably about it.There is nothing wrong with supporting your team but Kountze is gonna be a real challenge to hold it within 30.