TheMissingBand

Duress means that you’re doing it against your will, or don’t have a choice. Which Flynn swore wasn’t the case. The transcripts proved that he lied to investigators. Heck, Trump even fired him because of it. He was sworn in on January 22nd, 2017 immediately after Trump took office and fired on February Later, in December 2017, President Trump said he "had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI", noting that Flynn had "pled guilty to those lies".[182] Also in December 2017, vice president Pence said that by the time Flynn departed the Trump administration, "I knew that he lied to me." Pence also said Trump "made the right decision" to remove Flynn.[183] But he didn’t implicate Trump, so he gets a payday.

It’s like trying to teach a dog a card trick.

No worries. I mean… I get it if Flynn maintained his innocence and was found guilty. I’d think it stinks, but at least it would make some sense. But he did it. He admitted doing it. And now we’re paying him for convicting him of a crime that he admitted doing.

So where did you get your law degree? For the five millionth time, nobody has ever been “proven innocent” of anything. Anyone with a significant level of abstract thought knows this. The fact that Flynn PLEADED GUILTY by admitting “yeah, I lied about that” as a part of his guilty plea means that it was proven that he lied to investigators. And Flynn also certified that he wasn’t under duress when pleading guilty. And you must think that General Flynn is a coward of a man if he buckled under some questioning. 🤨 Trump’s DOJ did the investigation. You can’t even blame the Dems.

I saw this story a couple of days ago and didn’t bother to post because I knew that most here wouldn’t be able to grasp the complexities of it. And if they did, they’d justify the corruption since he’s a friend of Trump’s.

“Flynn acknowledged lying during the FBI interview by saying he had not discussed with the then-Russian ambassador, Sergey Kislyak, sanctions that had just been imposed on Russia for election interference by the outgoing Obama administration. During that conversation, Flynn urged Kislyak for Russia to be "even-keeled" in response to the punitive measures, and assured him "we can have a better conversation" about relations between the two countries after Trump became president. The conversation alarmed the FBI, which at the time was investigating whether the Trump campaign and Russia had coordinated to sway the election's outcome. In addition, White House officials were stating publicly that Flynn and Kislyak had not discussed sanctions.” [Hidden Content] Long story made short is that the FBI was interviewing Flynn about having conversations with Russian reps prior to the 2016 election, which Flynn denied. It turns out that he had, in fact, been negotiating with the Russians on Trumps behalf prior to the 2016 election. That’s the charge to which he pleaded guilty. Kinda like when Martha Stewart went to prison for lying to investigators.

Read a little. He pleaded guilty when Trump was in office (2017) because he was guilty.

It says the same thing… that in 2017 (Trump was President) Flynn pled guilty of lying to the FBI about conversations that he had with Russians prior to Trump being elected. He was sentenced to prison. Trump pardoned Flynn in November of 2020 just before leaving office…. Between losing the election and the insurrection at the Capitol, lol. He wasn’t too busy to pardon Flynn. Trump has now authorized a payout to Flynn. Before accepting a plea, the court always requires the defendant to admit guilt (he did) and verify that no one is forcing them to plead guilty (he did). To me, it looks like a reward to Flynn for keeping his mouth shut about Trump’s involvement with the Russians, but what do I know? The difference between 2020 and 2026 is that they used to be independent. In 2020 they were allowed to prosecute crimes that occurred. In 2026 they are simply Trump’s personal vengeance team… just ask Jerome Powell.

Flynn did the crime. Flynn PLEADED GUILTY, admitting that he did it. Then Trump pardoned Flynn and approved a settlement to compensate Flynn. Drain the swamp, huh? Every time Trump pardons a fraudster, the victims get knocked out of restitution. Do you even understand what you’re celebrating? There’s corruption going on in real time like this country has never seen.

He did. Then he lost 50+ lawsuits trying to overturn the results based on fabricated claims of later fraud that were all debunked.

Actually, the people who said “if Trump wins, we’re all screwed” were right all along. Our boys should be dying in Iran within the next week. You’ll just need to watch for gambling propositions to flood in right before it happens, that’s a way better predictor than me.

No…. But a lot of Christians do. My point is that you’re okay with the law enforcing religious beliefs… as long as it’s your religion. But my guess is that most of y’all don’t want to be legally held to the same standards to which Pentecostals hold themselves.

I did not… but I agree that a religion that tried to invoke rules or laws which are contrary to our laws aren’t valid, period. But my argument doesn’t change. We’re free to worship and live under whatever religion or rules that we wish… but you can’t force anybody else to live under yours, either. Whether we’re talking about enforcing Sharia Law, banning pornhub, forbidding gay marriage,or outlawing abortion.

We have the freedom to exercise religion guaranteed in the first amendment. People like to say “we’re a Christian Nation” and they’re wrong. We’re a nation where we’re free to be a Christian. Or not. You can be Athiest, Hindu, or even one of those Muslims if you want. We haven’t ever been a nation where Catholics and Protestants bombed each other. And I hope it stays that way. Both political parties recognize that tribalism is the best way to get people to vote. The border crisis during the Biden administration was a powerful motivator that the right used to win elections over the last couple of cycles. Now that it’s over, they’re trying to use Islam as the scapegoat. Banning certain religions is as unconstitutional as it gets.

Do you believe the first amendment should be repealed?