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Agree. We have divisions in Texas for a reason. You play who is on your schedule. No matter the class, if you win a state championship it is a heck of an accomplishment. None, in my opinion, are better than the others. No matter if people say this division is more competitive than this division, and so on. A ship is the ultimate goal. WOS has played in 3 straight, and won 2 in a row. They are the class of their division, and defintley recognized around the state as an elite program. 
And don't worry we have these same conversations on another site about playing teams in higher classifications. There are always arguments whether Carthage and Gilmer can play with Longview or John Tyler. Although there are some homers from Carthage and Gilmer, I think everbody that knows football understands that those games would be blowouts 9 out of 10 years. Longview and John Tyler have the same kind of athletes as Carthage and Gilmer, but they have 3-4 times as many. That is just too much to overcome. When it comes down to it, it's all about the jimmies and joes. When the jimmies and joes are close to equal, then it comes down to the X's and O's.

I've always thought the discussions about hypothetical games vs other classifications as well as downplaying playoff success bc of being in D2 vs D1 was a bunch of hooey. The kids play who the bracket puts in front of them. If you win 6 Texas High School Football playoff games in a row, regardless of classification or division, you're pretty dad-gum-good. 
And WOS is an ELITE program. The pride of SETX imo. Time for the rest of us to pull our weight. 

I think Brubaker was speaking strictly at the local level.  WO-S has had success against local 5A teams (14-2 against current 22-5A teams, 2-0 against Dayton since moving to 3A/4A) and teams in 4A Division I ranks (10-0 against 4A-I teams, including 4A-I state semifinalist Kennedale).
But outside of the areas above, I agree completely with you.  With that and a couple of state championships under the belt, some of our fans wish to think that they can whip anyone.  I don't follow that line of thinking as I know there are a number of teams across Texas that are capable of taking my beloved Stangs.  Would I mind facing those teams to see how they measure up?  Not at all.  Do I think it is vital to prove something?  No, WO-S has 2 trophies in their case from the UIL which is all Mustang fans need to point to show the Mustangs' worth. 
That is why I have refrained so far in this thread from listing what I would consider the Mustangs "game of the year."  Do the Mustangs have some marquee games? Yes.  Some intriguing games?  Absolutely, especially for the local crowd.  However, as far as I am concerned, there is only one "game of the year" that should be in consideration, that is the one that I hope that they are playing the weekend before Christmas.
And I am sure that you have the same considerations as a Carthage fan.  And your school provides the textbook example of what I am speaking of.  On 9/23, the Bulldogs travel to Gilmer.  They will play a game that will probably feature the #1 ranked teams in 4A-I and 4A-2.  A game with so much marquee value that it will be played on a Saturday instead of the usual Friday night.  However, can that really, for either Carthage or Gilmer, be considered their "game of the year?"  If the Bulldogs shut down Poppy Brown and company and win the game, the Bulldogs gain literally nothing out of the game with the exception of bragging rights and the experience of facing a tough team.  On the other hand, if Mr. Brown goes for 400 yards and the Buckeyes win, I don't see Susan Elza denying Scott Surratt the 4A-I trophy should they be so lucky to win the last 4A-I game of the season simply because Carthage lost to Gilmer.
I guess what I am trying to say is that your game of the year kinda depends on what you are trying to achieve.

WOS had an all time great team last year, but that was a once in every 20 year team. Some schools go their whole history without a team that good. Big props and respect to WOS. But you are incorrect that WOS will kick everybody's butt regardless of classification. Some of the WOS stuff goes over the top. WOS didn't beat the top teams or win state in old 3a (since the late 80's anyway) until there was split divisions in the new 4a. WOS is an elite program at the 4a level regardless of DI or DII, but people need to stop acting like nobody can compete with them. They had an all time great team in 2016, but people get silly when talking about how they can beat everybody. Take away the split divisions and WOS will go back to just another great program. Don't get me wrong I have a ton of respect for their program, but like I said people go wayyy overboard when talking about them. Kick everybody's butt in 5a? OMG, hahaha.
Now I see that only the "elite" 6a teams could deal with WOS. Guys this is getting ridiculous. Hahaha.

Elijah Hines committed to Louisiana Tech last Friday

If you are are going to tell what every day is between now and Football season........I'm gonna be right here with you. There just might be a party or a celebration that I'm missing out on!!!

Vidor is going to consistently be in the mix because of their system that they run that they start from pee wee ball.  Vidor will be in the top 4 this year. 
I was one of them that said PN-G's JV was weak last year and I stand by that.  I understand your point of your brother being on Varsity, which at most other schools a 10th grader would be on JV.  But there was nothing else, at least that I saw on that particular Thursday, that said to me that the cupboards weren't a little empty.  As long as Johnson is taking the snaps for PN-G's Varsity, they will be in the top 4.
Central will be fine.  The best thing that has happened over there in the last 4 years is that someone decided to leave to go coach another program.  Central will be in the top 4 this year. 
Until otherwise proven, PA Memorial is tops in the district. 

Crosby 10-3
8-2 Regular season. Loss to Manvel then a slip up loss. Not sure to who. Then 2-1 in playoffs. 
21-5A
1) Crosby, 2) BH, 3) New Caney, 4) Porter / Humble
I'm not a Bronco hater. I just don't see them getting better with that few returning starters. My experience is that if you are coming off of a poor year and you have little starting experience returning, you're in trouble. Love Bronco 94's conviction and will be happy for him if the Broncos finish 2nd in 21-5A in 2017. 
Could be a fun season to watch play out. 

Y'all are planning on losing to us, WOS, and who else?  
I predict 7-3, IF we get the quality of play from some kids who were big contributors that we need. We lost lots of kids to graduation. I think we'll start slow and build momentum as district play begins... kinda like the Tigers did last year.  
I see us handling HF and North Forest, I wouldn't bet against WOS, and we'll have real tests against Jasper and Newton. I think we'll hang on to beat the Bears (sorry LCM17), Cleveland, Navasota. I expect Huffman to regroup and be a DC challenger again this year, and I can freely admit that Silsbee has to be considered as a favorite for DC if you guys can replace some key pieces... but not as many pieces as we're trying to replace. It's definitely going to be a rebuilding year in BC for just about every starting position. Those BC kids had better be ready for one heckuva effort from the Tigers because I know y'all haven't forgotten last year.
That's my honest perception.  You can expect me to resume being an unrealistic homer as the season approaches. 

Happy Father's Day to all the dads out there. I hope you enjoy your day! 

That Brookshire loss still hurts

Thanks. I remember that guy trying to start fights... But think he was pretty good. Just mad

No.  I'm a jerk, not a gambler. 

Possibly...but it's baseball mannnn,wos has as much chance to knock them off as anyone!Everybody definitely knows the rockets are for real though.

Wos won the flip for one game.  Site tba 

WO-S vs. the winner of the Division II state semifinal game pitting Region I winner vs. Region II winner.  That would be a great game to stage right around Christmas.

Jack also hasn't  pitched against OF this year. 

This world is destroying itself more and more with hate. I didn't read the article because from many post tells the story. I myself who many know can be vocal, or missed quoted at times say this is so sad. If this man performed his job wrong, or mistreated kids, yes call for his job. To call for this man job because his skin color doesn't match the environment, is a slap to the face of any person who has been judged by color instead of heart. If this is so the reason, everything I feel we claim to fight for has just went out the window.

There may be alot of trash talk from both sides but there is also alot of respect. That was as good as a game as you can get from these young men and jd hit his spots all night. Now it's playoff time and I encourage every one if you get a chance to go watch either team play go show them your support 

They both pitched good enough to win. I tracked Trevis down after the game so I could tell him how good he pitched. 

Just got beat .... great job WOS .... great game to watch 

Sad.  Central has probably the same demographic breakdown as DeSoto and I have 2 boys in the Jaguar program.  I wouldn't care what color a coach was at Central if he puts a winning program on the field, kids in college and caps it off by winning a state championship...

Technically it would be the 4th championship game in a row. But who's counting? 
I agree that they're going to be tough. Really tough. There's a lot of experience on that squad. If you think about it, in the last three years, BC seniors (3 year starters) played 33 games... 29 regular and 4 playoff games. WOS's senior class played in 48.... with a lot of games against way better competition than we faced. There are still a lot of kids on that squad that have a lot more experience than other kids their age. Great coaching, too. 
I just feel like that the group that is moving on was very, very special. I don't expect them to repeat again this year. 
I can also admit that I said the same thing two years ago after their SC loss and JD was about their only returning starter. I've been wrong before. 

A lot of it depends on how hard the young guys are working in the offseason. If they have gotten the work in this spring and summer we'll be in the mix come district. 
Lots of big holes to fill, though. I feel good about the skill positions on offense and our secondary will return almost as a group. I'm hoping the linebackers (mostly seniors) will come into their own this year. We really missed having dominating forces back there last year. 
I think we'll have lots of answers by week five. WOS, Newton, and Jasper should tell us who we are. We could be playing for the DC again as a best case scenario, but I don't see worst case having us miss the playoffs. 

Great man and coach at PN-G. Knowing him since I was a youngster allowed me to have many great conversations with him over the years. Mostly about football. I usually ask him a question every year at a game to get sort of a history lesson. And to my recollection, I do not remember him ever missing a home game.. His record speaks for himself, not only in sports, but in life......