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[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1281824" timestamp="1348598728"] I can remember back in the 1996 and 97 seasons Silsbee ran HJ out the gym! Some of those scores were like 87-51, 79-43, 69-53 [/quote] They certainly did.  HJ had just moved up to 4-a and could not compete at that level.  I saw both of those games.  Not sure what that has to do with what is going on now, but if it makes you feel better, go for it.  I also remember that year for another reason, an HJ basketball player participated in the state finals in two separate sports in Austin.

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1281827" timestamp="1348598773"] You have a better chance of HJ winning state in football than me voting for Romney! [/quote] My point was that if you were "inside my mind" , you could influence me to vote for Obama.  Therefore, you are a very long way from being inside my mind.  What do you think about the Hawk football team who is 3-1 and was only a yard away from a score that would have made them 4-0?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1281652" timestamp="1348589174"] Nash, you treat Silsbee like our current administration, NO R-E-S-P-E-C-T!!!  Do you even remember the qualities of the Silsbee team? Speed, athleticism, IQ, ETC. All the ingredients to take out HJ this year in district. THEN!!!!  you know you gotta face [color=red]JACK [/color] [color=yellow]YATES[/color] [/quote] Have plenty of respect for Silsbee basketball.  Always have.  Funny, though, I have no recollection of them running HJ out of the gym with their speed.  Seems like HJ had enough skills to offset their shortage of athletecism and I would be willing to compare the HJ basketball IQ to most any high school team that steps on the court.  I understand the fascination with Yates.  For it is your last and final hope you can use to possibly discredit HJ basketball program.  The  weak schedule suggestion didnt work.  The lack of sport specific off season training failed.  In fact, their record suggests that you are wrong on all of your contentions.  However, if you can just get to that HJ-Yates contest, you can tell everyone you were right.  And if for some reason an upset takes place with HJ getting the win, we stand ready for your credible announcement that HJ would have no chance against the Longhorns, Aggies, or Rockets.

Gotta keep it lively till the season starts.

Thanks- Dove- be prepared

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1281116" timestamp="1348524836"] I predict Lamar will have a local.player on their squad next season. [/quote] Lets clarify this a little further.  Are you referring to the Lamar University Cardinals who play at the Montagne Center?

The Dove is once again trying to deny that he predicted a 2012 state title for the Hamshire Fannet Longhorns.  Can you mobilize those great investigative abilities and provide the evidence once more?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1281252" timestamp="1348537324"] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=103467.msg1281136#msg1281136 date=1348527553] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=103467.msg1281116#msg1281116 date=1348524836] I predict Lamar will have a local.player on their squad next season. [/quote] You also predicted a 2012 State Title for the Longhorns [/quote]As a reminder, that so-called prediction was never found. :D [/quote] I guess I will have to bring Poppabearstar back to invalidate your claim.

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1281266" timestamp="1348538261"] No I figured you were hoping that he wouldn't. I'm inside your mind. [/quote] I doubt that.  I wont be voting for Obama

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1281099" timestamp="1348522565"] Please check out his football stats! That's no rumor! Facts! He will play basketball year as well. Sorry HJ! [/quote] And why are you sorry?  Did someone from HJ express hope that he would not play basketball?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1281116" timestamp="1348524836"] I predict Lamar will have a local.player on their squad next season. [/quote] You also predicted a 2012 State Title for the Longhorns

Babies that handled a group of great shooters and D-1 prospects?  Are you saying the Central personnel are superior to those you just mentioned?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1280478" timestamp="1348492758"] [quote author=Setxhoops23 link=topic=101649.msg1280342#msg1280342 date=1348456316] [quote author=BmtTopFlight2017 link=topic=101649.msg1273968#msg1273968 date=1347853169] This was a very funny topic. Now on to the facts. Because that's what I deal in. While the kids coming out of King MS were good the best one actually went to Ozen and it wasn't Nigel. I'll let that sit on your brain cells for a minute. I watched King play all last year and Nigel is a wonderful kid,but he is not varsity ready nor is anybody off that team. Ozen did end up getting Josh Boyd. Now some of you will say he didn't play yeah I know but he was the BEST PLAYER at King PERIOD. The kid will end up being at least 6'5 or 6'6 when it's all said and done. And he plays defense like no other and score at will. He doesn't get the hype that Nigel gets because he didn't play a lot of summer ball but if Central puts those kids on varsity they'll be sitting ducks trust me. [/quote] Nigel and Boyd played on the same summer aau team *team sneed. From my understanding Nigel gets more hype locally and nationally, both are great players but Boyd will be the sitting duck at central playing behind the doves, jakobi jones, alex williams, and d.sam [/quote] I  gotta give Alex "Duck" Williams his props from this past weekend. The kid came out and lead the defensive charge against a top Elsik team out of Houston. Elsik has a couple of true D-1 prospects and had about 3-4 kids who could shoot the darn thing. Duck led the defensive pressure and the other 'babies" took their cues from the senior. Ozen is quick now, but imagine how much Jakobi will add to the team when football is over. [/quote] Are you implying a walk to the district title for the Panthers?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1280502" timestamp="1348494798"] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=103467.msg1280495#msg1280495 date=1348494307] When is the last time HJ missed the playoffs? [/quote]I think I can assume correctly that making the playoffs for HJ is given & expected. A minimum of a regional appearance is expected. [/quote] In management circles, it is known as "aim high".  That is something to which a larger segment of society should subscribe.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1279773" timestamp="1348411839"] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=103467.msg1279768#msg1279768 date=1348411377] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=103467.msg1279741#msg1279741 date=1348408031] Bosha will do fine. But will be interesting to see how the chemistry works this season  :-X [/quote] Give it up Dove-  While HJ may not always be high on the list in terms of athletecism, the "chemistry" is a major contributor to the good that the program has achieved. The staff is quite competent at managing chemistry.  You are trying to create a "chemistry" issue via rumor and it won't happen.  The issue you would like to discuss involved people who did not have a "chemistry" issue last year so why would they have one this year?  Your contention has no more validity than one that would address chemistry between the little Doves. [/quote] I have a favorite saying......."nothing stays a secret on the chitlin circuit. " [/quote] I have one also- its known as "talk is cheap"

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1279741" timestamp="1348408031"] Bosha will do fine. But will be interesting to see how the chemistry works this season  :-X [/quote] Give it up Dove-  While HJ may not always be high on the list in terms of athletecism, the "chemistry" is a major contributor to the good that the program has achieved. The staff is quite competent at managing chemistry.  You are trying to create a "chemistry" issue via rumor and it won't happen.  The issue you would like to discuss involved people who did not have a "chemistry" issue last year so why would they have one this year?  Your contention has no more validity than one that would address chemistry between the little Doves.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1279622" timestamp="1348370768"] Some of our local teams traveled to Houston this weekend to take on some Houston competition. As some might suspect, there were some of our favorite teams missing in this tourney because "real basketball" was being played  :D Friday night Games: Crosby 50.......North Shore#2  28 Saturday games: Nederland 35    Crosby 29 Montgomery 43  Silsbee 22 Eisenhower 40    Memorial 23 Silsbee 61 Jones 32 Silsbee 39 North Forest 35 North Shore 49  Nederland 40 Elsik 43 Memorial 20 Washington 41  Nederland 40 Ozen 41 Ridge Point 34 Humble 45 Ozen 42 Ozen 37 Elsik 32 [/quote] Really?  What "favorite" team was missing.  Looks to me like all of the teams from this area who play "real basketball" were there.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1278603" timestamp="1348284288"] Not too many coaches travelling in S.E.Texas to watch any talent unless its football. [/quote] Excuse me Dove, but didnt you recently state that the Lamar Coaches were in the Nederland gym?

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1277812" timestamp="1348267915"] Is he getting any Division 1 looks yet? [/quote] My guess is that, since he is a junior, if there is interest, it isnt showing yet.  I will tell you that last year, during the playoffs, a d-1 coach came to watch Prudhomme but wound up inquiring about Bosha after watching the game.

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1277811" timestamp="1348267846"] Is HJ recruiting anyone else from Beaumont? [/quote] I think they gave up on that.  As soon as anyone finds out that real basketball isnt played at HJ, they lose interest plus Yates is just down the road.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1277759" timestamp="1348262194"] Nash, I don't know the player. I'm not sure if he starts this year. Which makes it even more reason yalll won't win your region. Just think, a guy of his abilities (not dunking) may be a part-time starter. I am not impressed by dunks, but at 5'9" ,I'm willing to give him some props and a trip to Austin. ;D ;D ;D [/quote] Their trip to Austin will have no relation to his dunks.  I know we wont win region.  WE wont even make it out of district.  I will consider a 500 record in district as a success.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1277732" timestamp="1348259630"] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=103031.msg1277641#msg1277641 date=1348254224] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=103031.msg1277599#msg1277599 date=1348251925] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=103031.msg1277584#msg1277584 date=1348250978] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=103031.msg1277451#msg1277451 date=1348239872] Yates' senior guard...It's over, crown the State Champs in [size=14pt][color=red]3-A [/color][/size] ;D [Hidden Content] [/quote] I thought you said Prime Prep was going to win 3A? You are all over the place Dove, your word is mud now, cannot take you seriously. [/quote] Well, I posted the video of the 5'9" guard dunking and showing out as a warning to Hj & Silsbee as to what they will have to face in their region this year. I keep forgetting you are a Silsbee grad. Oh well, it is what it is!! [/quote] How many championships were won by Spud Webb and Mugsy Bogues? [/quote]Zero! Luckily they're not on the Yates team. [/quote] Dove- am going to try and keep up with the "dunking phenom" you are talking about.  WIll keep you posted on his dunks throughout the season.  I have a very strong feeling there wont be nearly as many as you would like to believe and I strongly doubt it will have anything to do with their won-loss record.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1277599" timestamp="1348251925"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=103031.msg1277584#msg1277584 date=1348250978] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=103031.msg1277451#msg1277451 date=1348239872] Yates' senior guard...It's over, crown the State Champs in [size=14pt][color=red]3-A [/color][/size] ;D [Hidden Content] [/quote] I thought you said Prime Prep was going to win 3A? You are all over the place Dove, your word is mud now, cannot take you seriously. [/quote] Well, I posted the video of the 5'9" guard dunking and showing out as a warning to Hj & Silsbee as to what they will have to face in their region this year. I keep forgetting you are a Silsbee grad. Oh well, it is what it is!! [/quote] How many championships were won by Spud Webb and Mugsy Bogues?

How can I answer that?  I am not sufficiently "learn-ed" about this game and I have that old fashioned belief that you can compete against better athletes if you have sufficient skills and mentality.  I can think of nobody better qualified to answer your question than you.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1276897" timestamp="1348169934"] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=100351.msg1276888#msg1276888 date=1348169312] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=100351.msg1276875#msg1276875 date=1348168527] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=100351.msg1276827#msg1276827 date=1348164759] [quote author=Castor27 link=topic=100351.msg1276801#msg1276801 date=1348162966] So what you are saying is the middle class made the decision. How did that happen? ;) [/quote] Would you not agree that public school employees(who made that decision) fall into the middle class? [/quote]With 1% Godfathers nearby offering a deal they could not refuse ;) [/quote] Hmm - let me see if I can figure this out.  HJ and Silsbee coaches and ADs get together and discuss the difficulties they have had in their home and home series.  They mutually agree to move the games to a larger venue.  They agree to share the extra expense and/or split the additional revenues that are a result of the game.  They call Ford Park and reserve the court for both games and Ford Park gives them a price to which they agree.  Where do the 1% Godfathers come in?  And what is in it for the greedy, selfish, uncompassionate Godfathers? [/quote]So, who do you think will win out of Silsbee and HJ?  And when you pick the winner, why do you think they will win? ;D [/quote] Silsbee by 15 in both games.  HJ plays a very weak schedule, avoids sport specific weight training, and does not play "real basketball".  Why did you change the subject?  I think I know.  You realized your "contention" was full of holes and did not want to pursue it further?