Tim Riggins

I'll bet Dayton is familiar with how everyone they have played in District runs their offense.  Stopping that offense that you are "familiar" with is a whole other story.

Senior night at Pirate stadium, if Vidor losses another close game here it would be a brutal but fitting way to end this season.

I agree with everything you said. Depth is a major issue in Vidor.
But the real question, is why is depth such a problem?
What are the participation numbers like in Vidor?
I know participation in football is down everywhere, but why is Vidor hit so hard?
Jeff has had a lot of success in Vidor, but is his style of play (mainly offense) causing the numbers to be low?
Is his style of coaching causing the numbers to be low?
Just curious and definitely not throwing stones at Vidor or Coach.

Missed the game, but read all the posts in this thread.  (Thanks Boneyard for your coverage!)   A couple of posts referenced injuries and how at this time of year all teams have them.  Agreed, all teams have them, but how  injury affects a team is primarily determined by that teams depth, and to an extent, what position(s) are affected.   When you have enough depth, you can plug another player in and although he may not be as good as the sidelined starter, (or he'd likely be starting), there is not a drastic drop off in production.   On the other hand, when you have to bring players up from the JV, including quarterback, just to have players familiar with the positions you are asking them to  play, you may have a depth problem.   Not to mention how many are walking wounded and those already going both ways.  Don't take this as an excuse by any means,  it's just what has happened  this year injury wise to a Pirate team that didn't have a lot of numbers to begin with.   

Another Wow! Dayton and Vidor may just cancel the game next week after the heart breakers they have both suffered this year

Missed the game, but read all the posts in this thread.  (Thanks Boneyard for your coverage!)   A couple of posts referenced injuries and how at this time of year all teams have them.  Agreed, all teams have them, but how  injury affects a team is primarily determined by that teams depth, and to an extent, what position(s) are affected.   When you have enough depth, you can plug another player in and although he may not be as good as the sidelined starter, (or he'd likely be starting), there is not a drastic drop off in production.   On the other hand, when you have to bring players up from the JV, including quarterback, just to have players familiar with the positions you are asking them to  play, you may have a depth problem.   Not to mention how many are walking wounded and those already going both ways.  Don't take this as an excuse by any means,  it's just what has happened  this year injury wise to a Pirate team that didn't have a lot of numbers to begin with.   

All i know about vidor football is that they are tough, scrappy kids. Might not have the most talent or run the best offense, but they are definitely near the top of setx year in year out at playing tough hard nose ball. I would gladly take a few of the vidor rbs and defensive front 7 guys of the past fews year at png if i had the power to do so. Would take so much pressure off the O. If matthews does anything he makes tough resilient kids who can throw a punch and take one. Whether he is a good coach or not is up to the vidor faithful and those that sign his checks
 

Here’s all you need to know- how many Quirantes are on Vidor? If the answer is 0, then don’t get your hopes too high. Seriously, your telling me that y’all have talent this year? If so, it must have moved in because there’s never really a lot of talent in Vidor, same as Lumberton. It is what it is, and Coach Matthews gets more out the talent (or lack thereof) than most people would.

Sound alike Vidor’s defense is the problem. But I’m sure people will be calling for Matthews head and griping about the offense he runs after averaging almost 36 points a game. 

My hats off to Vidor even though they were part of I-pad gate. These kids have played so hard losing in such crazy fashion. Two overtime losses and the loss on the last play tonight. If those flipped Vidor would be 3-2 in district with Dayton the only thing in the way of a playoff berth. Vidor was literally that close. Literally 10-12 points from being a playoff team. The greatest worst season for a team I may have ever seen

Vidor fans have to be proud of these kids.  Outmanned, outgunned, But rarely out of the game.  Even with the adversity of heartbreaking losses and injuries, there aren’t many in the District would want to play them again.  My hats off to the Pirates and Coach Matthews.

#9, Jackson LaPray  (the kicker), has the speed to get outside, but has not been utilized much, except for kicking. In the Nederland game, he scored two TDs outside, just outran the defense to the corner and is the fastest player on the team.  Should see more action running the ball this week as half the usual starting backfield will see defensive duty instead.
 

Beefing up the defense with players coming over from the offense.  Injuries and lack of depth has caught up with this team. 

As a outsider looking in for the last 13 years Hagar imo Vidor doesn’t have a “tradition” type pride issue, it’s well known the Pirates are proud to fight and play for JM. I think personally...... needs to get out of the slot T, it’s dead, it’s nearly useless against the competition that Vidor must face, they don’t play in a 3A district where it can work, sure Vidor runs it and some years are better than others but there isn’t much consistency in the wins.  Jeff made the statement he didn’t have the athleticism the other schools had, that was years ago, time to test the gene pool again see where the strengths are. When I was in school it was a bit of a joke when we played Vidor as every call was “run da ball!” Idk like I said just a outside opinion. 

This is just my opinion, but Vidor’s season exemplifies what I’m always saying about a winning tradition.  Had Vidor won, either against Crosby or PNG, they’d be a lock for a playoff spot now.  Those two losses ended their season.  Had that happened to Ned or PNG, they’d never looked back.  They’d still won the games they should win.  That tradition makes all the difference in the mental attitude.  If Vidor thinks Lee & Dayton are going to roll over and play dead, they may lose both of them.  I’m not sure how long it takes to build that type tradition/attitude.  Crosby doesn’t seem to have it, even though they’ve won a lot in recent years.  They folded after the PNG loss, though they still may make the playoffs.  
Hail, I’m no genius.  Maybe I’m wrong.  That’s just the way I see it.

Lol stay classy my friend.

Good game Vidor.   Another big game coming for Ned next week.

Props to the pirates for a well fought and physical game like always

Hats off to the Pirates, always play to the final whistle.....Smallest oline ive seen from the Pirates in a while. They were a lil out manned in the trenches on both sides of the ball...

One thing is for sure, the Indians will win this game!

One thing is for sure, the Indians will win this game!

Thanks again for your updates last night.  I have to say props to you Sir on this post.  One of the only posts I've seen on here in a very long time, where the fan on the underside didn't degrade the winning team, bash the refs, make silly excuses, or otherwise try and lessen the loss by trying to diminish the win of the other team.  Kudo's and much respect!   And yes, this district seems to be well matched with each other...not sure though how it will fair head to head with other districts, but with each other....on any given night for sure!

Good hard fought game, offense made some big plays tonight Nunez might have had 100 yards receiving and 200 rushing I know he was tired. Galloway made some really nice passes but crucial penalties caused long down and distance. Which forced the pass into coverage resulting in some turnovers that they scored off of, he was also under a lot of pressure from the BH defense. Dahlenberg ran hard and had a nice long catch, he's had a strong season thus far. I’d say our offense held their own tonight putting up 34 points but we needed the drive at the end that died inside the red zone. Best play call was the reverse to the kicker, they weren’t expecting #9 to get the ball and outrun everyone for a 65 yard TD. 
The defense has some injuries but fought hard with a lot of young guys playing and getting valuable experience. Some of our offensive players helped out by playing both ways with some situational substitutions. The defensive front was able to get some pressure in the backfield, we had several sacks and tackles for loss. We did better defending the pass tonight with tight coverage but gave up too many long runs in this game. We just can’t seem to get off the field and get a critical stop late in the game when we have to have it.
Nederland is going to be a tough game, it looks like they have it rolling again this season. This is one hell of a district and it’s shaping up to be a down year for us but next season we could fair a lot better. With the youngsters we have getting a lot of playing time now and with the stud senior quarterbacks that every other team in the league has moving on, there is still hope on the horizon in Pirate land. 

really appreciate the game updates.  Thanks Boneyard.