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4 hours ago, Dawgs12345 said:

Those would be classic offense vs defense games. Not saying that WOS doesn't have a high powered offense or Ville or BW don't play defense, but they are known as defensive and offensive teams respectively. Give me defense in big games. Ville has really feel off over the last couple of years. I remember when they dropped down in 2012, and ran roughshod over pretty much everybody that year. They had so much success for so long in the old 4a, and then dropped down and won a title the 1st year. I thought they would continue that dominance. But it didn't happen. They kind of feel back in the pack with a bunch of contenders after those 1st couple years. A lot of people kinda dismiss 4a (old 3a), but we have some awesome programs that can compete with anybody. Look at Carthage, WOS, and Gilmer. They all 3 beat teams 2-3 times their enrollment all the time. Even before it was split divisions the upper limit of 4a (old 3a) was over 1000 kids. Heck Carthage is the biggest of the 3 I named at 754. Gilmer has 685 and heck WOS has only 580 kids. Look at the top of the division in 4a before the split. You have teams like Kilgore at 1,065, Chapel Hill at 1,082, El Campo, Abilene Wylie, Ville all right at 1,000 kids. That's a big difference based on percentages. Heck WOS rolled Kennedale this year, and they have an enrollment double WOS (1,028). That's not even mentioning the teams those programs play and beat in 5a every year. Just goes to show you when these teams drop down in classification doesn't mean they are going to beat up on everybody. Enrollment does make a difference, but it's not everything. 

Exactly, when we dropped(03, I believe) we were preseason #1. We lose our first game to #2 Jasper, make a good run after that, then get bounced in the first round against Huffman Hargrave. Just goes to show that dropping down doesn't guarantee you success.

Oh, didn't realize they were so close to 4A. What was their last enrollment? Is Woodville growing because of the Lumberton area growth?

Woodville is 3A or 2A now?

Anything on Robinson/China Spring?

2 hours ago, aTmfan06 said:

Brookshire is TERRIBLE now 

I don't believe they were that good when they bounced us, they had that good running back(can't remeber his name) but seemed we strolled in there looking ahead. Same with the (03 I think) loss to Hargrave in the dome first round.

15 hours ago, Dawgs12345 said:

5 titles in 6 appearances. Looking to get another one this year! Trust me everybody that knows football has an extreme amount of respect for WOS. Awesome program. 

As do y'all.

How many do y'all have now, Dogs12345? 6 or 7? We have 4 with 7 appearances. We have a while to catch up to y'all.

2 hours ago, Dawgs12345 said:

Exactly. And no way Jasper or Brookshire would be able to beat WOS in the playoffs  anytime soon. Those programs are nowhere near what they used to be. I don't know about Giddings. This is coming from a Carthage fan, WOS is about to go on an all time run IMO. I could easily see 3 more titles in the next 5 years to go along with the 2 they got the past 2 years. Like it or not WOS is pretty much in a class of its own in their classification.

Coming from a Carthage fan, that speaks a lot! Thanks for the respect, just like we respect y'all. Both of our programs are always on a different level along with the Gilmers and such. Look at y'all last year, everyone pretty much wrote y'all off, then what do y'all do?? Brought another trophy back!

3 hours ago, baseball_101 said:

 

I was wondering the same thing. Probably not. So basically what he's saying it was the fans who made the umpire make a horrible no call to end the cardinals season. Is that how you see it cardinalbacker??

Guys, that's not what Cardinalbacker is saying for the love of all thing Holy. He is pointing out that these guys, the ups, already take enough crap. Their whole existence is judgement calls. Last I checked there is no instant replay in HS baseball, hell, any baseball. He is saying that riding the up all game will NOT help in the decision making of his said calls. And it might actually be detrimental to the team that is doing it. Not in spite from the ump, but just the ump getting fed up in general. Now, with that said, we all saw the pitch and all of us can agree it was a strike, probably CS people also. But that is baseball, it doesn't always go your way. CB is trying to say that riding an ump all day won't help the cause period, even if he shakes it off!!

35 minutes ago, STiger85 said:

The only hint that this pitch mite be a ball is the catcher moving his hand inside a little, other than that it will make you scratch your head on the call.

It's hard to see if the pitch was a little outside or a little in. But the heighth was spot on. Man, looked like a perfect, "down the pike" strike. Sad...like I said earlier we used to call that a "blank high" fastball. That's the one you want to hit. The "blank" is another word for a rooster. Don't want to say the real thing on here, family site and all. Lol. Let's just say when they fight roosters, they call them "blank" fights. Fill in the blank. Lol

46 minutes ago, Callaway7 said:

Where's the video at?

My "bucket list" of teams I've always wanted WOS to play has been fulfilled the past few years(Cuero, Sinton, Celina and Sweet Water) Now to find some others. Stephenville and Brownwood maybe? 

On 5/20/2017 at 7:43 AM, ECBucFan said:

Dalhart vs. Brownsville

El Paso vs. WO-S.

Play a "home and away" 2 game series. 

 

Good lawd!! WOS vs. an El Paso team? Even if they met half way, WOS could play a team in Georgia and El Paso could play a game in California and it would be a closer trip! Lol!!! Orange to El Paso. 857 miles.......

These are kids. Most of them young. Emotions happen, especially at their age. The ending of last nights game, though not condoning actions whatsoever, put the teenagers emotions in overdrive. Let's all look back when we were 14-18 years old, did we make the best decisions at the spur of a momment?? I know I didn't. Maturity comes with age. Thanks to the quick actions of the coaches and some fans that helped get the situation under control, because it could have been way worse. And to speak about some parents getting upset, etc. I don't believe in cussing, etc at the umps what so ever but if that was my my child that was robbed, I would be a little upset also. Unless any of us "bystanders" are in that situation, we wouldn't know how we would react. Speculation and assumptions only cause more damage and misunderstanding. Remeber, once again, these are kids....kids that aren't playing for money or fame, rather, the love of the game. Putting everything on the line with their hearts and soul.

Congrats to all the players and Coach on the list. Pretty tough to pick in our district.

12 hours ago, Goblin said:

I have a feeling Cuero will be pretty good the next two years. As long as we maintain the Chaingang Defense it will be difficult for any team in 4A D2 to get past WOS.

I agree 4A D2 is definitely pretty weak. In 10 years 2007-2016 WOS has only lost 5 times to teams included in the current division alignment. Gilmer x 2, Jasper, Giddings, and Brookshire.

That Brookshire loss still hurts

11 hours ago, Rake1 said:

Just hang on a few minutes, you can bet someone from this board who doesn't have a dog in the race will enlighten us all. 3 guesses who that is.....,,you won't need the last 2.

Rake, check your PM's

And as someone mentioned earlier, it's hard to argue balls and strikes. It's a subjective call. I wasn't there but was listening, however someone posted the whole last at bat on Facebook. I'm sorry, but it sure looked like that was a pitch right down the gut. Now I couldn't tell left or right but it was, as we used to say, a (another name for a rooster) high fastball. 

2 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I was only going by Gary's call of the game. He stated the celebration of China Spring kind of spilled over into some BC player's. Kids started shoving each other. He did state that Coach Landry was arguing with an ump and that AD Dubois was on the field as well trying to break up the mess.

Never did he say that China Spring started a fight with BC. That was what I was commenting on after kicker posted stating that CS started a fight.

I was typing fast, what I meant is what you said, CS started a fight with their celebration. Now intentional or not, I have no clue. I also heard, like you, Gary say something about CS players bumping into BC players.

48 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

Bridge City far exceeded all expectations for this season.  Every team except one goes home heartbroken each year. BC fans have to be excited about the future with so many of these kids coming back. 

Great season, Cards!

Loaded with freshmen and sophomores this season correct?

9 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said:

Both teams have been disqualified from the remainder of the playoffs. Silsbee will take the place of China Springs in the Regional Final. Good luck Tigers.

If that would be true, I really wonder how they would do that. It would probably be WOS since they went 4-0 against BC and Silsbee.

3 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Not what I heard. China Spring ran out to celebrate and the celebration ran into some BC players. Tempers flared then.

I got ya. Either way, should have been a called strike out before the hit.

Anyways..10-9 CS wins. Shouldn't have been but it's baseball.....

Terrible call by the up! Should have been called third strike.

Pandemonium on the field. CS starts fight with BC.