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How about the two baytown schools losing BH , Dayton and Crosby to travel to galveston, pearland, friendswood, texas city and santa fe.  Talk about some late night travels!  All three baytown schools are getting hosed. Sterling was about 200 kids shy of moving to 4a while lee had room for 500-600 more kids while staying 4a. Doesnt make sense.
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[quote name="joebob" post="1170409" timestamp="1328202907"]
How about the two baytown schools losing BH , Dayton and Crosby to travel to galveston, pearland, friendswood, texas city and santa fe.  Talk about some late night travels!  All three baytown schools are getting hosed. Sterling was about 200 kids shy of moving to 4a while lee had room for 500-600 more kids while staying 4a. Doesnt make sense.
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REL was the southern most school in the current 19-4A alignment. The UIL looked to replace Manvel and there was REL as the "best" fit geographicaly. GCM must go where REL goes.

In two years the only thing that would change that is if GCM has 5A numbers (or possibly RSS has 4A numbers. Not happening). The UIL has said you cannot have 3 classifications in a school district. SO, even if REL drops to 3A numbers, GCM must have some growth or RSS must drop in enrollment. If not, REL will have to play 4A with 3A numbers.
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[quote name="rollinac" post="1170412" timestamp="1328203052"]
Example:  How many Non-District 4A Schools will GCM pass on their way to Galveston Ball?  I counted 9 but it depends on which way you go I guess.  That's not to mention BH who is about 10 minutes in the other direction or Dayton 20 minutes...
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BH will pass through Baytown for over half of their district events.
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[quote name="badndn" post="1170436" timestamp="1328203914"]
Livingston!
Got hosed again. I hate traveling to Livingston a couple times a year, so I can only imagine what those folks over there feel like having to do it every week! Just flat sux!
[/quote]So right you are, I guess we shouldn't have apealed the first time, we have been paying ever since we did.
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[quote name="badndn" post="1170436" timestamp="1328203914"]
Livingston!
Got hosed again. I hate traveling to Livingston a couple times a year, so I can only imagine what those folks over there feel like having to do it every week! Just flat sux!
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I would think they play the same amount of home games as everyone else.
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[quote name="GCMPats" post="1170423" timestamp="1328203437"]
[quote author=rollinac link=topic=95319.msg1170412#msg1170412 date=1328203052]
Example:  How many Non-District 4A Schools will GCM pass on their way to Galveston Ball?  I counted 9 but it depends on which way you go I guess.  That's not to mention BH who is about 10 minutes in the other direction or Dayton 20 minutes...
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BH will pass through Baytown for over half of their district events.
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I like our new district, but am going to miss the games with GCM through all sports! I have a niece and nephew at GCM, Hopefully in 2 years we will be in the same district again.
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[quote name="rollinac" post="1170412" timestamp="1328203052"]
Example:  How many Non-District 4A Schools will GCM pass on their way to Galveston Ball?  I counted 9 but it depends on which way you go I guess.  That's not to mention BH who is about 10 minutes in the other direction or Dayton 20 minutes...
[/quote]So you prefer Humble to travel to Galveston? Baytown can hit Belyway 8 to 45 traffic
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[quote name="bigdog" post="1170549" timestamp="1328208483"]
[quote author=badndn link=topic=95319.msg1170436#msg1170436 date=1328203914]
Livingston!
Got hosed again. I hate traveling to Livingston a couple times a year, so I can only imagine what those folks over there feel like having to do it every week! Just flat sux!
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I would think they play the same amount of home games as everyone else.
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Livingston has to travel more than all the other 20-4A teams put together. In the two year span, they have to make 7 trips to the Triangle in football, 14 in volleyball, basketball, baseball and softball. Whereas the other 20-4A schools only make 1 trip in football, 2 in the other four sports.

Livingston gets hosed in this deal, not the other 20-4A schools.
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[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1170562" timestamp="1328208946"]
[quote author=bigdog link=topic=95319.msg1170549#msg1170549 date=1328208483]
[quote author=badndn link=topic=95319.msg1170436#msg1170436 date=1328203914]
Livingston!
Got hosed again. I hate traveling to Livingston a couple times a year, so I can only imagine what those folks over there feel like having to do it every week! Just flat sux!
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I would think they play the same amount of home games as everyone else.
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Livingston has to travel more than all the other 20-4A teams put together. In the two year span, they have to make 7 trips to the Triangle in football, 14 in volleyball, basketball, baseball and softball. Whereas the other 20-4A schools only make 1 trip in football, 2 in the other four sports.

Livingston gets hosed in this deal, not the other 20-4A schools.
[/quote]Hosed big time. Imagine on school nights with an exam the next morning.
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[quote name="liltex" post="1170399" timestamp="1328202414"]
Tomball gets put into the Ft Bend ISD district?????????????Ouch there will be kids getting home late esp.on weekday sch.events like thurs night w/shared stadium. :o :o
[/quote]Be glad you are not Texarkana where there is no district school within 60 miles.  Last year, Dennison was in their District, which was over 150 miles away.  Doesn't that sound like a fun weeknight event.
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Here's my gripe with the Livingston situation.  First, I was one of those that didn't think that Livingston was going to be moved out of 20-4A.  HOWEVER, that is because I thought the UIL would keep both 18-4A and 19-4A stable.  But you think that if they were going to tinker with those districts as well, that they could have found a way to get Livingston in either 18 or 19-4A.  Just shaken my head on that one!
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[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1170557" timestamp="1328208759"]
[quote author=rollinac link=topic=95319.msg1170412#msg1170412 date=1328203052]
Example:  How many Non-District 4A Schools will GCM pass on their way to Galveston Ball?  I counted 9 but it depends on which way you go I guess.  That's not to mention BH who is about 10 minutes in the other direction or Dayton 20 minutes...
[/quote]So you prefer Humble to travel to Galveston? Baytown can hit Belyway 8 to 45 traffic
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Please quote for me where I said Humble?  But since you bring it up wouldn't say Angleton, Willowridge, or Marshall be a better fit for 24? 
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[quote name="GCMPats" post="1170423" timestamp="1328203437"]
[quote author=rollinac link=topic=95319.msg1170412#msg1170412 date=1328203052]
Example:  How many Non-District 4A Schools will GCM pass on their way to Galveston Ball?  I counted 9 but it depends on which way you go I guess.  That's not to mention BH who is about 10 minutes in the other direction or Dayton 20 minutes...
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BH will pass through Baytown for over half of their district events.
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I remember Buna going through then 3A Tarkington and Cleveland in order to play 3A Coldspring and Shepherd a few years ago, we then wondered what the UIL was thinking.
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[quote name="Eazy" post="1170597" timestamp="1328209943"]
Well, Huntsville doesn't have to wait until the playoffs anymore to get drilled by Montgomery.  They can get that over in the regular season.
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They were just in the same district 3 years ago.  The thing is, Montgomery has gotten better, while Huntsville has gotten slightly worse.
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[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1170562" timestamp="1328208946"]
[quote author=bigdog link=topic=95319.msg1170549#msg1170549 date=1328208483]
[quote author=badndn link=topic=95319.msg1170436#msg1170436 date=1328203914]
Livingston!
Got hosed again. I hate traveling to Livingston a couple times a year, so I can only imagine what those folks over there feel like having to do it every week! Just flat sux!
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I would think they play the same amount of home games as everyone else.
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Livingston has to travel more than all the other 20-4A teams put together. In the two year span, they have to make 7 trips to the Triangle in football, 14 in volleyball, basketball, baseball and softball. Whereas the other 20-4A schools only make 1 trip in football, 2 in the other four sports.

Livingston gets hosed in this deal, not the other 20-4A schools.
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I agree that they get hosed on travel.  I was just stuck on the "every week" statement by badndn.
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[quote name="bigdog" post="1170697" timestamp="1328212628"]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=95319.msg1170562#msg1170562 date=1328208946]
[quote author=bigdog link=topic=95319.msg1170549#msg1170549 date=1328208483]
[quote author=badndn link=topic=95319.msg1170436#msg1170436 date=1328203914]
Livingston!
Got hosed again. I hate traveling to Livingston a couple times a year, so I can only imagine what those folks over there feel like having to do it every week! Just flat sux!
[/quote]

I would think they play the same amount of home games as everyone else.
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Livingston has to travel more than all the other 20-4A teams put together. In the two year span, they have to make 7 trips to the Triangle in football, 14 in volleyball, basketball, baseball and softball. Whereas the other 20-4A schools only make 1 trip in football, 2 in the other four sports.

Livingston gets hosed in this deal, not the other 20-4A schools.
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I agree that they get hosed on travel.  I was just stuck on the "every week" statement by badndn.
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Don't forget this goes way beyond football! So yes in all other sports where they play twice a week, Livingston must visit the GT once a week.
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[quote name="BrenhamFan" post="1170628" timestamp="1328210643"]
[quote author=Eazy link=topic=95319.msg1170597#msg1170597 date=1328209943]
Well, Huntsville doesn't have to wait until the playoffs anymore to get drilled by Montgomery.  They can get that over in the regular season.
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They were just in the same district 3 years ago.  The thing is, Montgomery has gotten better, while Huntsville has gotten slightly worse.
[/quote]Exactly.  Huntsville won the prior 2 years' district games when Justin Gilbert was QB.  I don't see Huntsville making the playoffs next year in this new district.  New Caney and Porter are no longer around to pad the win totals.
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