ICE is getting out of control

[little red]

He was not the target

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3 hours ago, little red said:

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ICE is not getting out of control. It has been out of control since Trump turned them loose. This will turn out to be a dark stain on our nation’s history by its worst President. There will be all the other ones ranked, 50 feet of crap, then Donald Trump buried at the bottom of the pile.

[baddog]

Dems are out of control with their constant outrage towards one man who is having to clean up the absurd mess they created. I bet Trump is their first awakening thought…..pitiful. Hate is a strange, but effective motivator.

[Reagan]

40 minutes ago, UT alum said:

ICE is not getting out of control. It has been out of control since Trump turned them loose. This will turn out to be a dark stain on our nation’s history by its worst President. There will be all the other ones ranked, 50 feet of crap, then Donald Trump buried at the bottom of the pile.

ICE is just upholding the law.  Show us where they are breaking the law!  

[little red]

1 hour ago, Reagan said:

ICE is just upholding the law.  Show us where they are breaking the law!  

Murder is a crime

[baddog]

1 hour ago, little red said:

Murder is a crime

Correct. Those illegals are some murdering scum. Somehow that’s ok in your book.

[Reagan]

5 hours ago, baddog said:

Correct. Those illegals are some murdering scum. Somehow that’s ok in your book.

You are right.  CB never complained about all the crimes, including murder, that the illegals have committed!  

[little red]

11 hours ago, baddog said:

Correct. Those illegals are some murdering scum. Somehow that’s ok in your book.

Illegals who commit murder should be punished along with the ICE agents that kill people

[baddog]

31 minutes ago, little red said:

Illegals who commit murder should be punished along with the ICE agents that kill people

You have a weird way of processing situations. Law abiding citizens get murdered by illegals. Illegals breaking the law can sometimes get killed by ICE agents. Police are armed for a reason. 

[thetragichippy]

2 hours ago, little red said:

Illegals who commit murder should be punished along with the ICE agents that kill people

So, Ice should just let them go? 

[Boyz N Da Hood]

Right is right wrong is wrong.. no need to defend a "side"... some of yall are pros, crazy part is yall think your part of the team lol. 

[baddog]

27 minutes ago, Boyz N Da Hood said:

Right is right wrong is wrong.. no need to defend a "side"... some of yall are pros, crazy part is yall think your part of the team lol. 

Another, in a long line of useless posts. I defend, not defund police. You stand up for nothing. Lol

[mat]

Probably not fair to judge the whole ICE program by a couple of poor officer decisions. Just like cops, a couple of poor decisions doesn’t make the police bad.

[thetragichippy]

2 hours ago, mat said:

Probably not fair to judge the whole ICE program by a couple of poor officer decisions. Just like cops, a couple of poor decisions doesn’t make the police bad.

Still being researched, we don't  know if it was poor decision or right decision.

All I know is when the lights come on behind me, I pullover and turn my vehicle off, roll my windows down, take my wallet out and put my hands on the wheel.......

If I get shot, it will be so obvious it was the cops fault, there will be no need for research.

[thetragichippy]

Or maybe he ran because he had illegal drugs in the vehicle- what a boy scout

 

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[mat]

3 hours ago, thetragichippy said:

Or maybe he ran because he had illegal drugs in the vehicle- what a boy scout

 

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We’ll have to wait and see. Seems a little off to have three baggies of drugs sitting on dash with the law in pursuit.

[tvc184]

On 7/14/2026 at 1:08 PM, little red said:

He was not the target

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Comments like he was not the target or he was pulled over for a minor traffic charge and so on are smoke screens.

 It has no bearing on the use of force. 

[tvc184]

14 hours ago, little red said:

Illegals who commit murder should be punished along with the ICE agents that kill people

Self defense or a defense of others is not murder. 

[tvc184]

9 hours ago, mat said:

Probably not fair to judge the whole ICE program by a couple of poor officer decisions. Just like cops, a couple of poor decisions doesn’t make the police bad.

👍🏼
 

I did a simple Google search of how many people are killed every year by medical malpractice in the US. The answer was 250,000 to 440,000.

I asked how many people every year were killed by the police and it was about 1,300.

So the average person is more than 300 times more likely (30,000%) to be killed by a doctor or nurse than the police. 

Also note that nearly anyone can be killed by medical malpractice but the number of people who come into dangerous confrontations with the police are extremely limited. The situation is almost always initiated by a criminal suspect, not the police. So for the average citizen he/she is probably 500 times more likely a person dies at the hands of a doctor than the police (and most are justified unlike medical malpractice) yet do the medical professions get disparaged because of those statistics?

 

[thetragichippy]

11 hours ago, mat said:

We’ll have to wait and see. Seems a little off to have three baggies of drugs sitting on dash with the law in pursuit.

I'm good with waiting.....but he did run from police for some reason.......and even an idiot should know your chances are slim to none you are going to get away from police in a chase. So, him leaving drugs in plain view really does not surprise me or seem off to me,

[little red]

20 hours ago, mat said:

Probably not fair to judge the whole ICE program by a couple of poor officer decisions. Just like cops, a couple of poor decisions doesn’t make the police bad.

You're right. At least you can admit that some have made bad decisions

[little red]

8 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

I'm good with waiting.....but he did run from police for some reason.......and even an idiot should know your chances are slim to none you are going to get away from police in a chase. So, him leaving drugs in plain view really does not surprise me or seem off to me,

So,  he had to be executed because they thought he was running for some reason. Call the cops, they knew where he lived.

[little red]

10 hours ago, tvc184 said:

👍🏼
 

I did a simple Google search of how many people are killed every year by medical malpractice in the US. The answer was 250,000 to 440,000.

I asked how many people every year were killed by the police and it was about 1,300.

So the average person is more than 300 times more likely (30,000%) to be killed by a doctor or nurse than the police. 

Also note that nearly anyone can be killed by medical malpractice but the number of people who come into dangerous confrontations with the police are extremely limited. The situation is almost always initiated by a criminal suspect, not the police. So for the average citizen he/she is probably 500 times more likely a person dies at the hands of a doctor than the police (and most are justified unlike medical malpractice) yet do the medical professions get disparaged because of those statistics?

 

And. One has nothing to do with the other.

[little red]

10 hours ago, tvc184 said:

Self defense or a defense of others is not murder. 

What was self defense?

[thetragichippy]

1 hour ago, little red said:

So,  he had to be executed because they thought he was running for some reason. Call the cops, they knew where he lived.

You are ignoring a lot of facts to try and be right.