Porter Posted 16 hours ago Author Report Posted 16 hours ago Wow…. I’ve never heard about this attack on our military till today, of course it happened 4 months before I was born in 1967. The attack on the USS Liberty was done by Israel intentionally from what Massie is saying on the floor of Congress. Quote
baddog Posted 16 hours ago Report Posted 16 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Porter said: Wow…. I’ve never heard about this attack on our military till today, of course it happened 4 months before I was born in 1967. The attack on the USS Liberty was done by Israel intentionally from what Massie is saying on the floor of Congress. What should we do? Quote
Porter Posted 16 hours ago Author Report Posted 16 hours ago 13 minutes ago, baddog said: What should we do? Watch and listen. Just thought it was interesting considering Israel drug us into this war. Quote
baddog Posted 16 hours ago Report Posted 16 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Porter said: Watch and listen. Just thought it was interesting considering Israel drug us into this war. Watch and listen to what? This was an awful mistake that happened almost 60 years ago. I don’t believe it has any bearing on our involvement in Iran. Quote
Porter Posted 15 hours ago Author Report Posted 15 hours ago 40 minutes ago, baddog said: Watch and listen to what? This was an awful mistake that happened almost 60 years ago. I don’t believe it has any bearing on our involvement in Iran. If you listen to the speech it wasn’t a mistake according to Massie and I am talking about our supposed ally Israel. The survivors are on the chamber floor supporting what he is saying. Quote
baddog Posted 15 hours ago Report Posted 15 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Porter said: If you listen to the speech it wasn’t a mistake according to Massie and I am talking about our supposed ally Israel. Massie is not the only one who believes otherwise. It’s already been settled. Massie just wants to fan flames. He voted against the border wall, so I don’t care to hear anything he has to say. It’s an opinion piece. He’ll spew his sour grapes till he leaves. Quote
Porter Posted 15 hours ago Author Report Posted 15 hours ago 5 minutes ago, baddog said: Massie is not the only one who believes otherwise. It’s already been settled. Massie just wants to fan flames. He voted against the border wall, so I don’t care to hear anything he has to say. It’s an opinion piece. He’ll spew his sour grapes till he leaves. So Massie voted against a stand alone Border Wall Bill? Quote
baddog Posted 14 hours ago Report Posted 14 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Porter said: So Massie voted against a stand alone Border Wall Bill? Good bait. Quote
Porter Posted 12 hours ago Author Report Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, baddog said: Good bait. It’s not bait, you’re being a little disingenuous by saying he voted against the border wall bill. There was a whole lot of nonsense in that bill money wise. Keep in mind we are almost 40 trillion in debt. Let’s give it a little context why don’t we. Here’s what Grok has to say about it which is pretty accurate. Yes, in a sense, but it’s nuanced. Thomas Massie voted against the One Big Beautiful Bill Act in 2025, a major spending package that included border security and immigration funding often tied to border wall efforts. He was one of only two Republicans to vote no, mainly because he opposed the bill’s massive impact on the national debt, which he said would fuel inflation and higher interest rates—not because he opposes a border wall itself. Massie has backed border wall funding before, like over $5 billion in 2019 through regular appropriations and co-sponsoring a 2023 bill for $15 billion more. But he’s consistently pushed back on executive overreach, like Trump’s 2019 national emergency declaration to redirect funds, arguing Congress should control spending. Trump and critics have hammered him for voting against the border wall because of that big bill, but his record shows he’s supported physical barriers when the process follows Congress’s constitutional role. It’s more about fiscal hawkishness and separation of powers than being anti-wall. Quote
baddog Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago 43 minutes ago, Porter said: It’s not bait, you’re being a little disingenuous by saying he voted against the border wall bill. There was a whole lot of nonsense in that bill money wise. Keep in mind we are almost 40 trillion in debt. Let’s give it a little context why don’t we. Here’s what Grok has to say about it which is pretty accurate. Yes, in a sense, but it’s nuanced. Thomas Massie voted against the One Big Beautiful Bill Act in 2025, a major spending package that included border security and immigration funding often tied to border wall efforts. He was one of only two Republicans to vote no, mainly because he opposed the bill’s massive impact on the national debt, which he said would fuel inflation and higher interest rates—not because he opposes a border wall itself. Massie has backed border wall funding before, like over $5 billion in 2019 through regular appropriations and co-sponsoring a 2023 bill for $15 billion more. But he’s consistently pushed back on executive overreach, like Trump’s 2019 national emergency declaration to redirect funds, arguing Congress should control spending. Trump and critics have hammered him for voting against the border wall because of that big bill, but his record shows he’s supported physical barriers when the process follows Congress’s constitutional role. It’s more about fiscal hawkishness and separation of powers than being anti-wall. I did my research. It was a baited question and I didn’t bite. I knew about the bill. At least I can converse with you without referring to Massie as your savior. I know better than to make that reference. It’s all good. Quote
Porter Posted 11 hours ago Author Report Posted 11 hours ago 7 minutes ago, baddog said: I did my research. It was a baited question and I didn’t bite. I knew about the bill. At least I can converse with you without referring to Massie as your savior. I know better than to make that reference. It’s all good. No bait, just admit saying he didn’t vote for the border wall bill was disingenuous knowing his history of voting. I have one Savior which is Jesus Christ. I know that bothers you that he’s not a Trump puppet. Our 40 trillion debt is more of a threat to our country than Iran imo. But hey keep agreeing with every single thing Trump say or does that’s your right. Quote
baddog Posted 11 hours ago Report Posted 11 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Porter said: No bait, just admit saying he didn’t vote for the border wall bill was disingenuous knowing his history of voting. I have one Savior which is Jesus Christ. I know that bothers you that he’s not a Trump puppet. Our 40 trillion debt is more of a threat to our country than Iran imo. But hey keep agreeing with every single thing Trump say or does that’s your right. It’s been nice conversing on an adult level. You‘ve used the phrase “get the hook out of your mouth” several times, which tells me how you operate. I guess you forgot about voting against border wall funding in 2019 when Trump declared national emergency. It wasn’t disingenuous. Have a good evening. Quote
Porter Posted 11 hours ago Author Report Posted 11 hours ago 4 minutes ago, baddog said: It’s been nice conversing on an adult level. You‘ve used the phrase “get the hook out of your mouth” several times, which tells me how you operate. I guess you forgot about voting against border wall funding in 2019 when Trump declared national emergency. It wasn’t disingenuous. Have a good evening. Massie has backed border wall funding before, like over $5 billion in 2019 through regular appropriations and co-sponsoring a 2023 bill for $15 billion more per Grok. This sounds just like you Baddog. Lol Quote
baddog Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago Well, since all you seem to want to do is come in here and take your pot shots and me and Reagan, you can have it, Porter. Feel free to reuse “pot shots”. Simple Google search: Representative Thomas Massie voted to block President Trump's 2019 national emergency declaration regarding the southern border. [ This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up , This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up ] He was one of 13 House Republicans who broke party lines in February 2019 to support the resolution overturning the declaration. Massie later joined 14 Republicans in March 2019 to vote with all Democrats to override President Trump's veto of the measure. He justified his votes by asserting that the Constitution grants the power of the purse exclusively to Congress and that a president cannot bypass this by reallocating funds when Congress refuses to approve their spending requests Quote
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