ANOTHER ICE SHOOTING IN Minneapolis

[TheMissingBand]

11 minutes ago, mat said:

I’ve seen the video. Did he interfere with law enforcement, yes. Did he refuse to comply, yes. Was he armed, yes. Is this tragic, yes. Was he executed, no. Depends on the lens you’re looking through. 

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No, sir… the ice agent who is walking towards the camera is holding the victims gun in his right hand in the video you posted. Watch other angles. 
 

You can see it through the windshield of the car. In other videos is even distinguishable as the weapon that’s been identified as belonging to the shooter sitting on a car seat. 

[mat]

1 minute ago, TheMissingBand said:

No, sir… the ice agent who is walking towards the camera is holding the victims gun in his right hand in the video you posted. Watch other angles. 
 

 

Each view can be subjective. Did he reach for his gun? Maybe. He wasn’t executed.

[TheMissingBand]

11 minutes ago, baddog said:

Honestly, I haven’t seen that. What a terrible place to conceal. I’ll keep looking.

All of the clips I’m seeing are on X (Twitter). The news stations censor them before the shooting starts. There’s a woman in a pink jacket on the sidewalk… her video is the clearest and most complete that I’ve seen. 

[TheMissingBand]

1 minute ago, mat said:

Each view can be subjective. Did he reach for his gun? Maybe. He wasn’t executed.

Sir… he never pulled a gun. And it had already been taken from him when he was killed. 
 

and if you are unarmed and on your hands and knees, then someone dumps an entire mag into your back-you were executed. 

[TheMissingBand]

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try this one… the ice agent in the grey jacket that comes in late disarmed the victim, then spun away with the weapon… he’s a step or two away when the shots ring out. I suspect that he saw the weapon exposed by the struggle, not because it was being brandished… he called out gun, and obviously one of the other agents popped off. 
 

it’s also important to note that the victim wasn’t fighting, it appears that he was trying to protect his head from the pistol-whipping being administered by a different ice agent. 

[mat]

16 minutes ago, TheMissingBand said:

Sir… he never pulled a gun. And it had already been taken from him when he was killed. 
 

and if you are unarmed and on your hands and knees, then someone dumps an entire mag into your back-you were executed. 

We’ll have to disagree until more info comes out. Unfortunately we have allowed a culture to arise where hostile protests and challenging LEAs has become a protected right.

[TheMissingBand]

9 minutes ago, mat said:

We’ll have to disagree until more info comes out. Unfortunately we have allowed a culture to arise where hostile protests and challenging LEAs has become a protected right.

Ummm… it’s been a right since 1776. 

[mat]

12 minutes ago, TheMissingBand said:

Ummm… it’s been a right since 1776. 

So you supported Jan 6?

[TheMissingBand]

20 minutes ago, mat said:

So you supported Jan 6?

I supported their right to protest right up until they started beating up cops and trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power. 
 

But that’s just me… I judge right and wrong based on actions, not the political party of the people involved. And for what it’s worth, nothing I saw done on these videos by the ice protestors today came even close to the way the Capitol police were treated on 1/6… and those all guys got pardoned because they hadn’t done anything wrong, lol. 

[LumRaiderFan]

2 hours ago, DCT said:

Judge not lest ye be judged.

Ye shall know them by their fruits.

[DCT]

1 minute ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Ye shall know them by their fruits.

Amen.

[tvc184]

4 hours ago, TheMissingBand said:

What’s crazy to me is that there are WAY more illegals in Texas… why aren’t they snatching people out of their houses down here? Why Minnesota?

I’m sure it’s just coincidence that their governor ran against Trump last time. 

They are arresting people in Texas. 

The Texas government however is not refusing to notify the federal government of illegal aliens under arrest nor trying to hide them.

 The best way to deport people is to notify ICE when such a person is in custody. The person is already safely locked up and there is no need for a street confrontation.

[mat]

6 minutes ago, tvc184 said:

They are arresting people in Texas. 

The Texas government however is not refusing to notify the federal government of illegal aliens under arrest nor trying to hide them.

 The best way to deport people is to notify ICE when such a person is in custody. The person is already safely locked up and there is no need for a street confrontation.

Agreed. The media likes to focus on democratic states to fuel the fire.

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[Porter]

Peaceful Protesters….

 

[baddog]

33 minutes ago, Porter said:

Peaceful Protesters….

 

Wow, death threats via texts. That should be traceable. These protesters care nothing about illegals. They are armed and very dangerous. They must be funded by the multi $billion fraud industry.

[Reagan]

4 hours ago, TheMissingBand said:

Watch the videos… silence them if it helps you. Specifically the point of view from the lady in the pink coat on the sidewalk, plus the angles take from the street. 
 

 

The victim was filming on a cell phone in the street, waving traffic (who I think may be ice) to come through. He retreats to the shoulder of the road, and a female who was closer to traffic also retreats. An ice agent approaches and violently shoves the female to the ground, and at this point the victim DOES possibly push the ice agent away from the female that was shoved, then moves to help her up from the snow. The ice agent pepper sprays both the victim and the female, other agents swarm in and begin striking and pistol whipping the victim. You can then hear an agent scream “he’s got a gun.”  You then see an ice agent in a grey jacket move from the scrum back towards the street holding the victim’s pistol in an outstretched hand. A split second later you hear the 7-12 gunshots ring out. 
 

What’s sickening is that our leaders immediately rush out with lies, accusations, and blame when the video shows something totally different than what they proclaim. 
 

The United States can’t take much more of this.  
 

 

 See Video Analysis Proof That The Latest ICE Shooting Of The Armed Agitator Alex Pretti In Minnesota Today Was 100% Justified.

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[TheMissingBand]

The NRA just released a statement condemning the governments’ response to the shooting… saying that justifying the shooting on the fact that the victim was carrying a gun before (and likely without) an investigation is just wrong. 

I’m sure that the DOJ and FBI will be paying the NRA a visit on Monday. 

[TheMissingBand]

22 minutes ago, Reagan said:

 See Video Analysis Proof That The Latest ICE Shooting Of The Armed Agitator Alex Pretti In Minnesota Today Was 100% Justified.

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No, sir. In your video, the agent in the grey coat grabs the victim’s holstered gun from its position  in the small of his back, stands, turns, and takes a step away before the first shot is ever fired. 
 

You know, having untrained masked thugs, I mean “federal agents” killing American citizens is bad enough…. But the fact that our leaders then come out and lie about it, blame others, and not even bother to investigate is even more frightening. 
 

[DCT]

4 hours ago, mat said:

Each view can be subjective. Did he reach for his gun? Maybe. He wasn’t executed.

You can clearly see the officer in gray remove the young man’s  weapon from his secured holster.  Why all the fake narratives?  He did not approach officers with a gun.  

[Reagan]

1 hour ago, TheMissingBand said:

No, sir. In your video, the agent in the grey coat grabs the victim’s holstered gun from its position  in the small of his back, stands, turns, and takes a step away before the first shot is ever fired. 
 

You know, having untrained masked thugs, I mean “federal agents” killing American citizens is bad enough…. But the fact that our leaders then come out and lie about it, blame others, and not even bother to investigate is even more frightening. 
 

No sir.  The victim was going for his gun.  I know it's tough to see the truth through TDS lenses!  The statements you make clearly indicate you are against federal agents doing their job.  

[Reagan]

1 hour ago, TheMissingBand said:

The NRA just released a statement condemning the governments’ response to the shooting… saying that justifying the shooting on the fact that the victim was carrying a gun before (and likely without) an investigation is just wrong. 

I’m sure that the DOJ and FBI will be paying the NRA a visit on Monday. 

Source?  

[bullets13]

Everyone else must have better eyes than me, because from one angle it looks like one thing and from others it looks like something else. I’m not positive what happened. I think the officer was able to grab his gun? I also think the gun may have discharged when he grabbed it, meaning the officer who shot could’ve believed the victim fired a shot. Hopefully there’s some body cam footage to clear it up, because even in the “clear” videos there’s a lot going on and it’s hard to see exactly what’s happening. All that said, carrying a gun and then putting yourself in a situation where you may end up in a struggle with law enforcement is not a great idea. In the same way that putting yourself in a situation where trying to flee from law enforcement leads you to accelerate your vehicle towards an officer is not a great idea. I thought the goode shooting was obviously justified and the officer acted reasonably. I have a feeling this one is going to end up falling in the “lawful but awful” category.