Why harsh words in the time of death?

[DCT]

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Charlie Kirk didn’t deserve the disrespect nor does Reiner. Prayers to his other kids who are grieving the loss of their parents.  
 

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8 hours ago, DCT said:

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Charlie Kirk didn’t deserve the disrespect nor does Reiner. Prayers to his other kids who are grieving the loss of their parents.  
 

People have lost jobs because of social media post like Mr. Trumps. 
Praying for our country and our leaders.  I also pray for both families.

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[AggiesAreWe]

Completely unnecessary from Trump. Just doesn't make any sense to do that.

It certainly isn't very presidential.

[LumRaiderFan]

His speech has never been Presidential, but many of his actions have been.

Until we have a better option (and I’m not talking about a smooth talker like Obama, who was a horrible President), I’ll stick with the rude crude guy.

[AggiesAreWe]

12 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

His speech has never been Presidential, but many of his actions have been.

Until we have a better option (and I’m not talking about a smooth talker like Obama, who was a horrible President), I’ll stick with the rude crude guy.

Rude and crude is one thing. But making comments like that when a man and his wife are murdered by their son? That's so out of line and disrespectful. Makes him no different than the folks he was criticizing for their comments after Kirk was killed.

Very two faced.

We are not debating policies here. Just be a descent human being. Something I expect my president to be.

Just needs to be more respectful. Not hard to do.

[LumRaiderFan]

7 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Rude and crude is one thing. But making comments like that when a man and his wife are murdered by their son? That's so out of line and disrespectful. Makes him no different than the folks he was criticizing for their comments after Kirk was killed.

Very two faced.

Just needs to be more respectful. Not hard to do.

Apparently, it is for Trump, everyone seems to be surprised when he is himself.

There nothing even close about Kirk and Reiner, Reiner has said awful things about Republicans (straight up lies) for decades, I guess Trump decided not to pretend he was a great guy.

Don’t agree with his crudeness AT ALL, but I’ll take policy over smooth, and yes, I would love to have both because he unnecessarily turns away voters.

[DCT]

21 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

His speech has never been Presidential, but many of his actions have been.

Until we have a better option (and I’m not talking about a smooth talker like Obama, who was a horrible President), I’ll stick with the rude crude guy.

Praying for you as well.

[LumRaiderFan]

2 minutes ago, DCT said:

Praying for you as well.

Appreciate that, I’ll take it.

Save some for your hypocrisy, you didn’t give a crap about Kirk critics until now, but jumped right on Trump’s comments.

[Big girl]

12 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Apparently, it is for Trump, everyone seems to be surprised when he is himself.

There nothing even close about Kirk and Reiner, Reiner has said awful things about Republicans (straight up lies) for decades, I guess Trump decided not to pretend he was a great guy.

Don’t agree with his crudeness AT ALL, but I’ll take policy over smooth, and yes, I would love to have both because he unnecessarily turns away voters.

You guys defend him no matter what he does. It's pathetic. What is the difference between kirk and Reiner?

[DCT]

7 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Appreciate that, I’ll take it.

Save some for your hypocrisy, you didn’t give a crap about Kirk critics until now, but jumped right on Trump’s comments.

Please go back and read my post about Mr. Kirk under his post. You will realize you are wrong.  I would never put down any human being who has lost their life to tragedy, let alone death.  This family is not even in the ground.

[Big girl]

5 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Appreciate that, I’ll take it.

Save some for your hypocrisy, you didn’t give a crap about Kirk critics until now, but jumped right on Trump’s comments.

I recall him saying that Kirk didnt deserve to die that way. But but but. You guys are delusional.

[OlDawg]

4 minutes ago, Big girl said:

I recall him saying that Kirk didnt deserve to die that way. But but but. You guys are delusional.

The difference is one was a political assassination, while the other was an internal family matter. Neither should be condoned. Just like disrespecting either death shouldn't be condoned. 

[DCT]

30 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

The difference is one was a political assassination, while the other was an internal family matter. Neither should be condoned. Just like disrespecting either death shouldn't be condoned. 

TxHoop said it best under Mr Kirks topic. 
Powerful!

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TxHoops Posted September 12

I am going to post one thing here though in general.  Reading this thread is almost as depressing as social media, on both sides.  At least no one is celebrating a man’s murder here that I’ve seen.  But those of you who are proclaiming it’s only the liberals or the Dems who do this need to expand your source of information or remove your head from the sand or your nether regions, as applicable.  
 

Specifically, I would direct your attention to the murder of Melissa Hortman, the speaker of Minnesota’s House of Representatives and her husband, both democrats (oh and their dog).  The man indicted for their murder, is a self proclaimed evangelical Christian.  He allegedly targeted them and other prominent democrats in Minnesota because of their politics. 
 

I didn’t read every single post in this thread so I apologize if this has already been mentioned.  But these murders occurred less than 90 days ago.  I did go back through this page and couldn’t find a thread dedicated to these senseless killings. I am very glad that I didn’t find one blaming Republicans and/or evangelical Christians for their deaths.  Because that would be as dumb and/or unfair as blaming an entire party or segment of a part for Charlie’s death.  We know next to nothing at this point other than a good man, husband and father was senselessly executed.  
 

And while I think a lot of many of you who post here, whether I agree or disagree with you, if you are one of those who rushes to get to a keyboard and politicize these tragedies, I hate to break it to you but YOU are part of the problem. 
 

I agree with the author.✍️ 

[baddog]

57 minutes ago, Big girl said:

I recall him saying that Kirk didnt deserve to die that way. But but but. You guys are delusional.

 You also called Kirk a vile human being. What’s the difference? You even posted an article about hate. Remember?

Trump should keep his feelings to himself, but like LRF said, he insults everyone and speaks the truth. Wokeism and socialism is bad for the country. I have no problem saying that. Reiner’s comments about Trump being involved with Russia, without any proof, was very damaging, but no one cares because it was against Trump…..surprise. Where the comparisons between Kirk and Reiner fail miserably, is the people who may have lost their jobs for their comments about Kirk, were celebrating his death. Trump did not celebrate Reiner’s death. I haven’t seen people in the streets acting like they are stabbing themselves in celebration either. At the end of the day, Trump speaks the truth, insults people (including his own party), hurts feelings,  and pays the price from those who, all of a sudden, find moral high ground. What else is new?

[OlDawg]

12 minutes ago, DCT said:

TxHoop said it best under Mr Kirks topic. 
Powerful!

 

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TxHoops Posted September 12

I am going to post one thing here though in general.  Reading this thread is almost as depressing as social media, on both sides.  At least no one is celebrating a man’s murder here that I’ve seen.  But those of you who are proclaiming it’s only the liberals or the Dems who do this need to expand your source of information or remove your head from the sand or your nether regions, as applicable.  
 

Specifically, I would direct your attention to the murder of Melissa Hortman, the speaker of Minnesota’s House of Representatives and her husband, both democrats (oh and their dog).  The man indicted for their murder, is a self proclaimed evangelical Christian.  He allegedly targeted them and other prominent democrats in Minnesota because of their politics. 
 

I didn’t read every single post in this thread so I apologize if this has already been mentioned.  But these murders occurred less than 90 days ago.  I did go back through this page and couldn’t find a thread dedicated to these senseless killings. I am very glad that I didn’t find one blaming Republicans and/or evangelical Christians for their deaths.  Because that would be as dumb and/or unfair as blaming an entire party or segment of a part for Charlie’s death.  We know next to nothing at this point other than a good man, husband and father was senselessly executed.  
 

And while I think a lot of many of you who post here, whether I agree or disagree with you, if you are one of those who rushes to get to a keyboard and politicize these tragedies, I hate to break it to you but YOU are part of the problem. 

I responded to his post then in the same way I'm responding to this topic now. My thoughts don't change with the breeze.

[AggiesAreWe]

5 minutes ago, baddog said:

 You also called him a vile human being. What’s the difference? You even posted an article about hate. Remember?

Trump should keep his feelings to himself, but like LRF said, he insults everyone and speaks the truth. Wokeism and socialism is bad for the country. I have no problem saying that. Reiner’s comments about Trump being involved with Russia, without any proof, was very damaging, but no one cares because it was against Trump…..surprise. Where the comparisons between Kirk and Reiner fail miserably, is the people who may have lost their jobs for their comments about Kirk, were celebrating his death. Trump did not celebrate Reiner’s death. I haven’t seen people in the streets acting like they are stabbing themselves in celebration either. At the end of the day, Trump speaks the truth, insults people (including his own party), hurts feelings,  and pays the price from those who, all of a sudden, find moral high ground. What else is new?

Are you saying he spoke the truth on Reiner's death? That he was killed because of TDS?

[LumRaiderFan]

2 minutes ago, baddog said:

 You also called him a vile human being. What’s the difference? You even posted an article about hate. Remember?

Trump should keep his feelings to himself, but like LRF said, he insults everyone and speaks the truth. Wokeism and socialism is bad for the country. I have no problem saying that. Reiner’s comments about Trump being involved with Russia, without any proof, was very damaging, but no one cares because it was against Trump…..surprise. Where the comparisons between Kirk and Reiner fail miserably, is the people who may have lost their jobs for their comments about Kirk, were celebrating his death. Trump did not celebrate Reiner’s death. I haven’t seen people in the streets acting like they are stabbing themselves in celebration either. At the end of the day, Trump speaks the truth, insults people (including his own party), hurts feelings,  and pays the price from those who, all of a sudden, find moral high ground. What else is new?

Reiner has spoken about Trump his entire political career (as you have pointed out) speech that could easily cause a crazy to take a shot at Trump.  He put money behind the Russia investigation, has said Trump is unfit to serve, said he was destroying democracy and wanted to serve as an authoritarian, as well as targeting Republicans in general, with the same hate speech.

If you want to be spoken about kindly, maybe not try to ruin someone’s life with lies.

[baddog]

11 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Are you saying he spoke the truth on Reiner's death? That he was killed because of TDS?

No, I think there is much more as to why Reiner’s son killed him and his mother. Please reread my post. Sometimes Trump should keep his feelings hidden, but that’s not who he is. He never celebrated his death. He may not be moved to sadness over his passing, but he didn’t jump in the air thanking God he was dead. Comparing this to Kirk is apples and oranges. 
To me, Reiner was like DeNiro. They both have severe cases of TDS and it is very apparent if they are interviewed. Can’t talk about anything without mentioning Trump. It is a sickness and I don’t mean that jokingly. Is that why he is dead? We’d have to ask his son.

[thetragichippy]

Here is my 2 cents that probably means absolutely nothing....

First, This is one of those things I wish he would of kept his mouth shut.... It would have probably served him better. Someone's death is not the time to get the last word.....

However, Trump has been delt some bad hands since 2016. He has been accused of being a Nazi, Racist, Pedophile , mentally unfit, crook and probably more I don't remember. There is now evidence, and pretty good evidence that he was set up to fail by the Obama administration, the Hillary administration started the Russia hoax, Biden admin and certain states used Lawfare to try and bankrupt him and send him to jail, and at his age, would of been a life sentence.....and in this political climate there was 2 assassination attempts on his life, one being an inch from ending his life..... 

Reiner was a very loud critic of Trump, he helped launch a committee to investigate the Russian hoax (and never admitted it was a hoax), called him unfit to serve, called him a Fascist, claimed Trump was gong to end Democracy, wanted to charge Trump with TREASON (death sentence), wanted Trump to spend the rest of his life in prison.....

There was some bad blood between the two, and if we are all being honest, our opinions of people do not change when someone dies.  Again, he should of kept his mouth shut, but I can see his motivation to speak out.