The gunman -- described as in his early 20s -- was armed with a rifle, a shotgun and a pistol, and police believe he fired from all three weapons

[LumRaiderFan]

11 minutes ago, tvc184 said:

Going by your stats….

Whites are 62% of the population and commit 60% of the mass shootings. Statistically it is about the same percentage as the population. 

Blacks are 12% of the population yet commit 18% of mass shootings. That is 50% higher than their population.

So by your stats, Blacks are 50% more likely to commit mass shootings based on race.

Based on population, which is what I said in my previous comment, Whites committing the most mass shootings is a myth.

Thanks for your own statistics proving my point. 

Math is hard, I was looking forward to your response after she confirmed your post with hers.

[5GallonBucket]

2 hours ago, tvc184 said:

Going by your stats….

Whites are 62% of the population and commit 60% of the mass shootings. Statistically it is about the same percentage as the population. 

Blacks are 12% of the population yet commit 18% of mass shootings. That is 50% higher than their population.

So by your stats, Blacks are 50% more likely to commit mass shootings based on race.

Based on population, which is what I said in my previous comment, Whites committing the most mass shootings is a myth.

Thanks for your own statistics proving my point. 

Well “ those stats are racist and probably done by a old white man”

[Big girl]

On 9/1/2025 at 10:01 AM, tvc184 said:

…. and I appreciate that you googled it trying to prove me wrong. It just didn’t work out but at least you put out the effort.  

So you agree that most public mass shootings are committed by white men

Demographic Breakdown

• White: perpetrators are the most common group to commit mass shootings, representing the majority in several studies. 
   
• Black: individuals are also frequently involved in mass shootings, a significant finding, particularly for community violence. 
   
• Hispanic: and Asian individuals make up smaller percentages of mass shooters. 
   
• Other groups, including Middle Eastern and Native American individuals, are involved in a very small number of mass shootings. 
   

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  These incidents, which receive significant media attention, show a higher proportion of white perpetrators, especially in high-casualty events. 

  On 9/1/2025 at 10:01 AM, tvc184 said:

  …. and I appreciate that you googled it trying to prove me wrong. It just didn’t work out but at least you put out the effort.  

   

 

 

 

[LumRaiderFan]

1 hour ago, Big girl said:

So you agree that most public mass shootings are committed by white men

Demographic Breakdown

• White: perpetrators are the most common group to commit mass shootings, representing the majority in several studies. 
   
• Black: individuals are also frequently involved in mass shootings, a significant finding, particularly for community violence. 
   
• Hispanic: and Asian individuals make up smaller percentages of mass shooters. 
   
• Other groups, including Middle Eastern and Native American individuals, are involved in a very small number of mass shootings. 
   

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  These incidents, which receive significant media attention, show a higher proportion of white perpetrators, especially in high-casualty events. 

   

 

 

 

Like I said, math is hard.

[thetragichippy]

1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Like I said, math is hard.

Either she is simply grand standing because she knows she is wrong - or Gold help anyone she is administering drugs to, because you need math for that.......

[tvc184]

25 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

Either she is simply grand standing because she knows she is wrong - or Gold help anyone she is administering drugs to, because you need math for that.......

You win the internet today!

Math and reading comprehension seems to be lacking. 

[AggiesAreWe]

28 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

Either she is simply grand standing because she knows she is wrong - or Gold help anyone she is administering drugs to, because you need math for that.......

If she is stating that white males commit more mass shootings than any other race or sex, then how is she wrong?

Now when you bring in the ratios or percentages within the races or sex, then you have an argument.

I get getting a deeper dive reveals the most truth, but no one can deny the FACT that white males commit more mass shootings.

It's also a fact that more white males become trans. Of course there are more white males in the country than any other race so the numbers would reflect it. But it doesn't change the fact.

[LumRaiderFan]

14 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

If she is stating that white males commit more mass shootings than any other race or sex, then how is she wrong?

Now when you bring in the ratios or percentages within the races or sex, then you have an argument.

I get getting a deeper dive reveals the most truth, but no one can deny the FACT that white males commit more mass shootings.

It's also a fact that more white males become trans. Of course there are more white males in the country than any other race so the numbers would reflect it. But it doesn't change the fact.

Ratios and percentages were always the argument.

[AggiesAreWe]

9 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Ratios and percentages were always the argument.

I completely agree.

Doesn't make the statement false.

[tvc184]

12 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

If she is stating that white males commit more mass shootings than any other race or sex, then how is she wrong?

Now when you bring in the ratios or percentages within the races or sex, then you have an argument.

I get getting a deeper dive reveals the most truth, but no one can deny the FACT that white males commit more mass shootings.

It's also a fact that more white males become trans. Of course there are more white males in the country than any other race so the numbers would reflect it. But it doesn't change the fact.

I brought that up in the very first sentence of my comment with this:

“By total numbers but not by percentage of the population.“

I then went on to show that by the information that she posted (and it can be confirmed on several sites), White mass shootings are in line with population, Latinos have the lowest percentage by population and Blacks have the highest based on population by far or around 150% more than their population.

She quoted me in her comment but ignored my response about percentages which was the entire premise of my comment.

 That’s okay. She is allowed her comments for wherever reason. She ignored what she quoted however and was called out on it. And again, that was using the information that she posted.

 She was respectful so that’s great, post away. Just don’t expect it to go unchallenged. 

 

[LumRaiderFan]

2 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I completely agree.

Doesn't make the statement false.

It simply makes it irrelevant when the argument is percentages and not total numbers.

 

[thetragichippy]

22 minutes ago, tvc184 said:

She was respectful so that’s great, post away. Just don’t expect it to go unchallenged. 

She is almost always respectful.

My issue is sometimes she does not address the comment she is addressing

[thetragichippy]

49 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

If she is stating that white males commit more mass shootings than any other race or sex, then how is she wrong?

Now when you bring in the ratios or percentages within the races or sex, then you have an argument.

I get getting a deeper dive reveals the most truth, but no one can deny the FACT that white males commit more mass shootings.

It's also a fact that more white males become trans. Of course there are more white males in the country than any other race so the numbers would reflect it. But it doesn't change the fact.

I kind of treat this topic like how we rank murders in a city, based on population.  The numbers are based on a percent to population. I was not arguing, and I don't think I ever stated white folks by number were not the most. 

[baddog]

Most serial killers are white males. It’s what confused the investigators in Atlanta when a black man was killing black children. It still doesn’t “shame” me for being a white male. I think that’s Big Girl’s angle. She has failed miserably.