baddog Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago Can anyone believe liberals have Jerry Nadler investigating Pam Bondi after his huge failure with Russia Gate? What a joke. Quote
Porter Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago 5 minutes ago, baddog said: Can anyone believe liberals have Jerry Nadler investigating Pam Bondi after his huge failure with Russia Gate? What a joke. Very hypocritical no doubt. baddog 1 Quote
OlDawg Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago 44 minutes ago, Porter said: Good Interview Reason is a solid news and opinion magazine. Very trustworthy source. But, it will equally offend Dems and Reps on occasion. It’s a Libertarian publication that’s been around a long time. I recommend more people read it for a different viewpoint. Porter and DCT 2 Quote
thetragichippy Posted 11 hours ago Report Posted 11 hours ago 14 hours ago, Porter said: So all of Epstein’s victims were paid off? Even the ones that are dead? Question, why should you or I be more concerned about the pedo's than the ACTUAL victims? The victims that are alive and living their best life have SAID they have the list....... Quote
thetragichippy Posted 11 hours ago Report Posted 11 hours ago 14 hours ago, Porter said: I am a big fan of Elon and I think that’s great of him to offer but Is he going to pay for 24 hour security for them and their families the rest of their lives too? Question 1. - if Obama and Biden administration had the names, can you make it make sense to me why they didn't go after them? Question 2. Do you really think this is to the level that accusers and families will need 24 hour security for the rest of their lives? Quote
Porter Posted 10 hours ago Report Posted 10 hours ago 3 minutes ago, thetragichippy said: Question, why should you or I be more concerned about the pedo's than the ACTUAL victims? The victims that are alive and living their best life and SAID they have the list....... That’s a question you need to ask Trumps influencers who use it as a campaign issue. You know Bongino, Patel, Donald Trump Jr. etc. The list is long. If the reporting I read is correct no one in the DOJ will meet with them. Trumps influencers made it a concern to get him elected. I am just following up. It’s one of the reasons i voted for him. I believe this is a political platform to discuss political issues and this is just one of them. Quote
thetragichippy Posted 10 hours ago Report Posted 10 hours ago 14 hours ago, Porter said: Even the ones that are dead? Were Trumps influencers Patel, Bongino and the rest of them aware of this when they were using it as a campaign promise to get the Epstein perpetrators including Don Trump Jr? Was the DOJ paid for their silence too? I'm not sure about the campaign promises....I do know not all campaign promises can be done. I said that when Obama was running and was going to take care of terrorist......until he got the intelligence when he won his first term. if the DOJ was paid for their silence, it would of started with the Bush administration and remained through the current administration......without one single leak.....that in it self seems impossible Quote
thetragichippy Posted 10 hours ago Report Posted 10 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Porter said: That’s a question you need to ask Trumps influencers who use it as a campaign issue. You know Bongino, Patel, Donald Trump Jr. etc. The list is long. If the reporting I read is correct no one in the DOJ will meet with them. Trumps influencers made it a concern to get him elected. I am just following up. It’s one of the reasons i voted for him. I believe this is a political platform to discuss political issues and this is just one of them. Of course this is discussion - The question still remains - why don't they go public. If he 25 year DOJ is correct in his assumption in my original post, they will not disclose for fear of being sued. Money above morals? Quote
Porter Posted 10 hours ago Report Posted 10 hours ago 5 minutes ago, thetragichippy said: Question 1. - if Obama and Biden administration had the names, can you make it make sense to me why they didn't go after them? Question 2. Do you really think this is to the level that accusers and families will need 24 hour security for the rest of their lives? 1. You’d have to ask them that. 2. Yes, you don’t think powerful people take out other people that would make them look bad and black ball their business dealings going forward? Quote
Porter Posted 10 hours ago Report Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, thetragichippy said: Of course this is discussion - The question still remains - why don't they go public. If he 25 year DOJ is correct in his assumption in my original post, they will not disclose for fear of being sued. Money above morals? Why can’t the DOJ disclose it and let these powerful people come after the DOJ? Is that not the number one thing that our government is suppose to do? ….Protect Us. DCT 1 Quote
thetragichippy Posted 9 hours ago Report Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, Porter said: 2. Yes, you don’t think powerful people take out other people that would make them look bad and black ball their business dealings going forward? The you would have to believe Hillary really murdered all those folks? I've never bought into the hype of that. Quote
Porter Posted 9 hours ago Report Posted 9 hours ago 3 minutes ago, thetragichippy said: The you would have to believe Hillary really murdered all those folks? I've never bought into the hype of that. I am not even referring to Hillary but I wouldn’t put it pass them. IMO Quote
Porter Posted 9 hours ago Report Posted 9 hours ago Pam Bondie yesterday at the hearing. She’s pretty spot on. Quote
Porter Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, thetragichippy said: Let’s see…. Pam Bondi February 2025: "The files are on my desk" July 2025: "There are no files, everything's already been released" October 2025: "Oops we just found 5 million files" Watch this little video clip. Here’s one of a few names he found in just 2 hours of looking at the unredacted files. Quote
OlDawg Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 37 minutes ago, Porter said: Let’s see…. Pam Bondi February 2025: "The files are on my desk" July 2025: "There are no files, everything's already been released" October 2025: "Oops we just found 5 million files" Watch this little video clip. Sorry. I don’t see any EVIDENCE OF PEDOPHILIA in Massie’s questioning here… Ineptness. Sure. Cover-up? Not proven yet. Pretty high bar to convict someone for this crime, and most of what I’ve seen and read involves some doubt. This isn’t a civil case. There can be NO REASONABLE DOUBT. Seems to me this is more of a shaming to hope people are ostracized by their peers and the public type situation until/unless I see a lot more. By the time this is all said and done, any criminal case that could have been prosecuted will be corrupted by the coverage. I’m a little surprised someone as intelligent as you appear would partially condition your vote on the campaign promise of the release of information that’s almost two decades old when so much else was at stake. It’s almost like voting for Trump because he promised to release info on UFO’s. No offense meant. Quote
DCT Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 47 minutes ago, Porter said: Let’s see…. Pam Bondi February 2025: "The files are on my desk" July 2025: "There are no files, everything's already been released" October 2025: "Oops we just found 5 million files" Watch this little video clip. Here’s one of a few names he found in just 2 hours of looking at the unredacted files. This video speaks volumes. Quote
Porter Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 41 minutes ago, OlDawg said: Sorry. I don’t see any EVIDENCE OF PEDOPHILIA in Massie’s questioning here… Ineptness. Sure. Cover-up? Not proven yet. Pretty high bar to convict someone for this crime, and most of what I’ve seen and read involves some doubt. This isn’t a civil case. There can be NO REASONABLE DOUBT. Seems to me this is more of a shaming to hope people are ostracized by their peers and the public type situation until/unless I see a lot more. By the time this is all said and done, any criminal case that could have been prosecuted will be corrupted by the coverage. I’m a little surprised someone as intelligent as you appear would partially condition your vote on the campaign promise of the release of information that’s almost two decades old when so much else was at stake. It’s almost like voting for Trump because he promised to release info on UFO’s. No offense meant. Offense was taken, they literally redacted a co conspirator to Epstein which is against the law that Trump signed into law. Thats just what he found in the little research of a hour or two looking at the millions of unredacted files. You’re comparing exposing UFO information to information on powerful people Child Sex Trafficking kids? Pretty disappointed in your verbiage Dawg. Have you even looked at any of the documents? My vote was predicated on ACCOUNTABILITY! Russia Hoax , J6 , Covid BS, Epstein Perpetrators, DOGE FINDINGS, 2020 ELECTION FRAUD, etc. At this point ZERO ARREST OF ANYONE INVOLVED IN THE ABOVE AND MORE! Pretty Sad. Quote
Porter Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago More than three million pages from the Epstein files are now public. Cannibalism. Rape. Murder. Pedophilia. They investigated and raided a literal squirrel before a single person on the Epstein client list. Quote
OlDawg Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 17 minutes ago, Porter said: Offense was taken, they literally redacted a co conspirator to Epstein which is against the law that Trump signed into law. Thats just what he found in the little research of a hour or two looking at the millions of unredacted files. You’re comparing exposing UFO information to information on powerful people Child Sex Trafficking kids? Pretty disappointed in your verbiage Dawg. Have you even looked at any of the documents? My vote was predicated on ACCOUNTABILITY! Russia Hoax , J6 , Covid BS, Epstein Perpetrators, DOGE FINDINGS, 2020 ELECTION FRAUD, etc. At this point ZERO ARREST OF ANYONE INVOLVED IN THE ABOVE AND MORE! Pretty Sad. I'm comparing campaign promises. Can the redaction be proven to be a willful crime? I'm not disagreeing with your anger, nor am I condoning the behavior. Quote
Porter Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 8 minutes ago, OlDawg said: I'm comparing campaign promises. Can the redaction be proven to be a willful crime? I'm not disagreeing with your anger. It’s obvious the DOJ is suppressing truthful information and not investigating powerful elites from what I’ve seen over the years. Our government is broken. I’ll just leave it at that. Pretty disgusted at this point. The judiciary hearing the other day was a dumpster fire with Pam Bondi. What a embarrassment. DCT 1 Quote
OlDawg Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 14 minutes ago, Porter said: It’s obvious the DOJ is suppressing truthful information and not investigating powerful elites from what I’ve seen over the years. Our government is broken. I’ll just leave it at that. Pretty disgusted at this point. I can't say I blame you. I spent many years doing many things for this government of ours. It left me hanging out on my own on more than one occasion. I chose not to vote. You bringing up Benghazi hit close to home for me for a somewhat similar situation in the 80's. There was plenty of denial then as well. Now, I champion personal liberty and fiscal sanity. I'm not receiving either, and neither is anyone else. Regardless of Party. But, I can still hope. Maybe, there's still a chance we can get our government back to what was intended. DCT 1 Quote
Porter Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 12 minutes ago, OlDawg said: I can't say I blame you. I spent many years doing many things for this government of ours. It left me hanging out on my own on more than one occasion. I chose not to vote. You bringing up Benghazi hit close to home for me for a somewhat similar situation in the 80's. There was plenty of denial then as well. Now, I champion personal liberty and fiscal sanity. I'm not receiving either, and neither is anyone else. Regardless of Party. Yep, I have a Truth Social account and Trump is getting hammered on the way the Epstein situation was handled by Pam Bondi. His base is not happy and I am afraid he just made himself a lame duck after the midterms. But like I said before he brought all this on himself. It looks like I may just join you on not voting myself. Like I said I think our government is broken beyond repair. Quote
OlDawg Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, Porter said: Yep, I have a Truth Social account and Trump is getting hammered on the way the Epstein situation was handled by Pam Bondi. His base is not happy and I am afraid he just made himself a lame duck after the midterms. But like I said he brought all this on himself. It looks like I may just join you on not voting myself. Like I said I think our government is broken beyond repair. Gary Johnson got 4.5 million votes (3.3%) in 2016, even though he wasn't given security information or even a chance to debate. He wasn't perfect by any means, and I didn't agree with some of the Libertarian Party platform at the time. I still don't. But, I voted for him because I felt he was a better fit for my personal priorities than Clinton (I was an ABC--Anyone But Clinton--voter because of the Benghazi similarity) or Trump. Of course, I also supported Ron Paul and Ross Perot. I had high hopes for Mitt Romney. He was caught on a hot mike telling the truth, and got burned. He still--IMHO--would have been an excellent POTUS. The current primary system is giving us horrible candidates. Quote
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