Nederland Bond PASSES!!!!

[Bigdog]

18 hours ago, Reagan said:

And some of the main yes people are from Port Neches!  LOL!!

You do realize that some of Port Neches is inside Nederland ISD right?   I am referring to people who do not own property inside the ISD or in a couple of cases in Jefferson County at all.

[Bigdog]

16 hours ago, navydawg31 said:

How often does new construction come in under budget..? I hope we are able to get everything we want and more I really do. But honestly I’m not holding my breath on us able to build one, 

The 2012 bond came in under budget by quite a bit.

[Reagan]

4 hours ago, bigdog said:

You do realize that some of Port Neches is inside Nederland ISD right?   I am referring to people who do not own property inside the ISD or in a couple of cases in Jefferson County at all.

Mine was a joke about the yes people from PNG who do not live in Nederland. 

[Reagan]

22 hours ago, Razor said:

But at least their band and drill team will be able to perform at halftime when it's wet (vidor's that is)

Well, football teams perform when it's wet.  Hence the name football stadiums.  But to say one is going to spend millions and millions of dollars so that drill teams may or may not be able perform is a travesty on the taxpayer.  Probably why one doesn't see "drill team" stadiums.  Again, nothing said here or in any of these post supporting the massive tax increase would educate one child!

[Reagan]

It's been reported that Bridge City ISD is having to cut programs.  It's due to financial difficulties they are in from their 2014 bond passage!

[navydawg31]

7 hours ago, bigdog said:

The 2012 bond came in under budget by quite a bit.

Do you happen to know by how much? I’m curious as to where this money was spent and utilitized 

[Knoddy1]

If we don't invest in our community then eventually the value of the community will crater, we can't just run it in the ground, but if we do be sure to check your resale on your homes in a few years, you might just wish you had invested.

[MMosley07]

9 hours ago, Reagan said:

It's been reported that Bridge City ISD is having to cut programs.  It's due to financial difficulties they are in from their 2014 bond passage!

What programs? BCISD didn’t pass a bond in 2014, it failed.

[MMosley07]

5 hours ago, navydawg31 said:

Do you happen to know by how much? I’m curious as to where this money was spent and utilitized 

A little over $1MM.

[Reagan]

54 minutes ago, MMosley07 said:

What programs? BCISD didn’t pass a bond in 2014, it failed.

Never said it was true or false.  Just said I heard.  If it's not true, then I appreciate the truth.  So, good for them.  They were smart!  Again, nothing said in any of these post supporting this massive $156,000,000 bond would educate one child!

[WOSgrad]

10 hours ago, Reagan said:

It's been reported that Bridge City ISD is having to cut programs.  It's due to financial difficulties they are in from their 2014 bond passage!

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The closer truth is probably that the $25 million bond that was rejected in 2014 will now be a $46.1 bond issue vote in May.

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By the way, news of the 2014 no vote was not that hard to find.

 

[Reagan]

7 hours ago, WOSgrad said:

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The closer truth is probably that the $25 million bond that was rejected in 2014 will now be a $46.1 bond issue vote in May.

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By the way, news of the 2014 no vote was not that hard to find.

 

Thanks for the info!

[MMosley07]

10 hours ago, Reagan said:

Never said it was true or false.  Just said I heard.  If it's not true, then I appreciate the truth.  So, good for them.  They were smart!  Again, nothing said in any of these post supporting this massive $156,000,000 bond would educate one child!

You said it was reported. Who reported it? What programs? You state BCISD is having financial issues and having to cut programs, implying that is something NISD will have to do.

[PlayActionPass]

Can't stand liars and manipulators.

Just tell the TRUTH.

If you don't think Nederland ISD needs everthing spelled out in this Bond Package (AND MORE) then you must not have been to ANY of their campuses in the last 50 years. 

[navydawg31]

12 hours ago, MMosley07 said:

A little over $1MM.

Okay thanks... curious... how did they utilize this 1m savings? What did they spend it on? 

 

 

[mat]

13 hours ago, MMosley07 said:

What programs? BCISD didn’t pass a bond in 2014, it failed.

BC is trying to pass another bond now. Their needs did not go away.

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[Reagan]

2 hours ago, PlayActionPass said:

Can't stand liars and manipulators.

Just tell the TRUTH.

If you don't think Nederland ISD needs everthing spelled out in this Bond Package (AND MORE) then you must not have been to ANY of their campuses in the last 50 years. 

Needs to one is purely wants to another.  Majority of what's in this massive bond will not educate one child. 

[PlayActionPass]

4 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Needs to one is purely wants to another.  Majority of what's in this massive bond will not educate one child. 

Heck of a lot more to education that pencils and paper.

Did you know that they don't even have text books in most schools now?

[Reagan]

7 minutes ago, PlayActionPass said:

Heck of a lot more to education that pencils and paper.

Did you know that they don't even have text books in most schools now?

And it's going to take $156,000,000 to solve this, if true?   Everything on the smaller bond side is a want.

[PlayActionPass]

4 minutes ago, Reagan said:

And it's going to take $156,000,000 to solve this, if true?   

Technology, it is a crazy concept, but you might want to embrace it. I really think it is here to stay.

Progress, it really is a good thing. But, when you haven't kept up, it cost a little more than it should to catch up.

[mat]

6 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Needs to one is purely wants to another.  Majority of what's in this massive bond will not educate one child. 

This is not true at all. Aside from the basic listed on the district website, I don't know the details of what will be addressed in the bond. However, TEA sets standards for optimal education performance. Areas short of these standards hinders education performance determined by TEA. The infrastructure of a school building dictates the level of technology related education and educational growth that is needed in the advanced learning environment of today such as computer labs, smart board interactive technologies, chemistry and biology specific labs, etc. Classroom sizes are mandated from TEA to accommodated the growing needs within a classroom. Proper climate control, indoor air quality, etc contributes to a healthier environment which contributes to better education. The education advantages go way beyond the brick and mortar. I can provide plenty of supporting data if needed. 

Furthermore, I'd be willing to bet if you survey the students that have spent years in an old school, then moved into a new school you'd see increased motivation. 

[Reagan]

13 minutes ago, PlayActionPass said:

Technology, it is a crazy concept, but you might want to embrace it. I really think it is here to stay.

Progress, it really is a good thing. But, when you haven't kept up, it cost a little more than it should to catch up.

Let me repeat what the President of the school board has said: "President of the board, Suzanne Isom, stated this in a "Meet The Candidate" article: “I’m proud of the kids and how they’ve scored on tests,” she said. “Their grades and knowledge have increased."  Now this doesn't sound like she thinks the students are lacking.  So, are you saying without this massive bond of $156,000,000 Nederland students are going without the latest and greatest technology?  Is there a mass exodus of students because of this the school district is lacking on the educational front.  Mrs. isom doesn't think so.   Heck, if this is the case, then why the want of building a new high school?!  

[mat]

4 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Let me repeat what the President of the school board has said: "President of the board, Suzanne Isom, stated this in a "Meet The Candidate" article: “I’m proud of the kids and how they’ve scored on tests,” she said. “Their grades and knowledge have increased."  Now this doesn't sound like she thinks the students are lacking.  So, are you saying without this massive bond of $156,000,000 Nederland students are going without the latest and greatest technology?  Is there a mass exodus of students because of this the school district is lacking on the educational front.  Mrs. isom doesn't think so.   Heck, if this is the case, then why the want of building a new high school?!  

Sounds like she is not ready to settle or sit idle. Sound like she wants continued improving into the future. Can you provide a quality education for less than a $156,000,000? Yes. You could build a perfectly adequate bare necessity home for you and your family for $30,000. Something tells me you would want more for them if you are able. 

[Razor]

Could have replaced 4 elementary schools and re-done the high school 9 years ago for $30 million less...continuing to wait only increases the price tag...I suppose the idea is to wait until the buildings are ready to fall down before they are replaced

Again, I despise spending money, especially this much, but at some point, you have to realize that what you have is not what you need to carry you forward effectively...at what point did someone decide to replace all of the outhouses with indoor plumbing?  I'm sure that cost money and outhouses worked pretty well up until that point...somebody found a more effective way to do things

 

[WOSgrad]

54 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Let me repeat what the President of the school board has said: "President of the board, Suzanne Isom, stated this in a "Meet The Candidate" article: “I’m proud of the kids and how they’ve scored on tests,” she said. “Their grades and knowledge have increased."  Now this doesn't sound like she thinks the students are lacking.  So, are you saying without this massive bond of $156,000,000 Nederland students are going without the latest and greatest technology?  Is there a mass exodus of students because of this the school district is lacking on the educational front.  Mrs. isom doesn't think so.   Heck, if this is the case, then why the want of building a new high school?!  

If you have read an article, why didn't you post a link to the entire article?  Is it because it would reveal ALL that Board President Isom said?

Well, I will:

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Because the full quote on that matter was that, " I’m proud of the kids and how they’ve scored on tests,” she said. “Their grades and knowledge has increased. We have a very good superintendent who pushes teachers. I’m proud of the school district as whole.”

BUT, Mrs. Isom was asked about her position on the bond, "The Nederland Independent School District’s Citizens Advisory Committee met for the final time Wednesday to discuss a presentation to the board for a potential bond issue. Isom said she hopes a bond will pass come May.

“I’ve been through two other bonds that didn’t pass,” she said. “I hope this one will.”

At the final meeting, Isom said she was not sure of the rules about advocating for a potential bond issue, but she has been on record in the past saying she would like a new school facility."

 

I understand your position about the bond proposal and you are certainly free to express that opposition here.  However, I would hope that in the future, you would avoid the half truth's (Mrs. Isom's views on the state of the district) and outright lies (asserting that the BCISD was having to "cut programs" due to a bond issue that was voted down) that you have attempted to resort to the last few days.