Vidor is backing the blue!

[MAYFIELD]

  On 7/26/2016 at 1:47 PM, Scatright said:

No, that is what you implied he is. So I'm simply asking the question:  If he starts your son at QB this year, do you still believe he is a racist?

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So you saying you read between lines tell me what  part implies he racist.

[BMTSoulja1]

  On 7/26/2016 at 6:59 AM, PAMFAM10 said:

Man I really hate to do this but what if one of our inner city schools decided to go with a black stripe on their helmet to support another movement ??? If adults like pro teams I'm all for it but to have kids involved in this though issue is just wrong in my opinion. The coaches could have just worn a stripe. 

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VERY good points.  VERY good.

[BMTSoulja1]

  On 7/26/2016 at 1:36 PM, Scatright said:

So will Neumann still be a racist if your son starts for Nederland this year?

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So why are we bringing up lil Mayfield and Nederland football?  This is about Vidor football, blue strip, and Coach Matthews...

[outanup]

  On 7/26/2016 at 2:31 PM, BMTSoulja1 said:

So why are we bringing up lil Mayfield and Nederland football?  This is about Vidor football, blue strip, and Coach Matthews...

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Look at your post.... You called some of the Vidor football team racists. It's common knowledge how Mayfield views things, he has brought up race more then once in these forums. It is what it is....

[MAYFIELD]

Look I apologize to many who feel offended by my words. I felt that moving the topic would not bring about today's actions. We find it easier to carry the torch of negative, instead of bringing each other up in unity. This world is like this because in our differences, we never look to common and calmer ground. I apologize to the forum and it's viewers for allowing myself back into this and will move on. I wish love to all and let's play ball.

[outanup]

Fair enough.... No claims to perfection here.

[BMTSoulja1]

  On 7/26/2016 at 2:47 PM, outanup said:

Look at your post.... You called some of the Vidor football team racists. It's common knowledge how Mayfield views things, he has brought up race more then once in these forums. It is what it is....

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I didn't mean it to come off like that.  But it was generalized with Vidor as a whole...  I know for a fact that there are some racist, you and I both know that, but that would be true for any town or city...  

[Scatright]

  On 7/26/2016 at 3:41 PM, MAYFIELD said:

Look I apologize to many who feel offended by my words. I felt that moving the topic would not bring about today's actions. We find it easier to carry the torch of negative, instead of bringing each other up in unity. This world is like this because in our differences, we never look to common and calmer ground. I apologize to the forum and it's viewers for allowing myself back into this and will move on. I wish love to all and let's play ball.

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Best of luck to you and your son, whatever position he ends up playing.

[baddog]

Way to go Vidor. I see absolutely nothing wrong with showing support for our men in blue. I am putting a blue stripe on the cross in my yard. I hope it offends someone.

I also like that you still have a prayer at your home games.....much better than a moment of silence.

Way to stand up. I applaud you. Others need to follow suit.

[tvc184]

  On 7/26/2016 at 1:25 PM, MAYFIELD said:

So since you so glorifying about the blue tag on helmet, which to many is a good thing. Would you be offended if I asked you does the rest of the helmet stand for BLACK LIVES MATTER! doubt it. Now you probably would say that racist too, but in our world it's everyday REALITY with all races of the BLUE. I spoke becaused I have lived it and still live it.

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As I mentioned above, BLM is a political movement or organization. Students on the school's time should not be involved. 

The police are not a political group or movement. If a school wanted to wear a green stripe to honor the the US military, I think it would be great. The Tea Party, BLM, John Birch Society, etc. are completely political and have no business in this manner. 

You are compared oranges and rocks. 

[baddog]

  On 7/26/2016 at 5:41 PM, baddog said:

Way to go Vidor. I see absolutely nothing wrong with showing support for our men in blue. I am putting a blue stripe on the cross in my yard. I hope it offends someone.

I also like that you still have a prayer at your home games.....much better than a moment of silence.

Way to stand up. I applaud you. Others need to follow suit.

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[Hagar]

As I posted on the Vidor preview, this exhibits Coach Matthews class, and the fact that he teaches more than just football.

And please don't any of us try to make this racial.  This whole area has made great strides in reducing racism.  We need to continue doing that.

[BLUEDOVE3]

  On 7/26/2016 at 3:09 AM, outanup said:

Pretty broad brush to be painting with Soulja, dont you think?

 

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Even Nat Turner had his own distractors within his fold.

[BLUEDOVE3]

  On 7/26/2016 at 3:52 AM, tvc184 said:

It shouldn't take a doctorate degree to know that saying I back up the police doesn't mean, "I back up all cops and even the racists ones". 

If we are doing that then we should remove any support for teachers and educators? We have recently seen in Beaumont some of those people sentenced for felonies. I have also seen some fairly crude racist remarks by educators. Should we not support them?

I have also seen plenty of support for the military yet we have had some terror and racists acts by certain of them. I guess any mention of supporting the military should be called into question. 

Anyone that says "I support teachers/police/military/etc." isn't saying "I support all _______" no matter what. Last season the Lamar Port Arthur Seahawks basketball team did their annual poster with members of the Port Arthur Police Department. I guess that means the LSC-PA administration is all racists since they allowed the team to be photographed with those evil cops. 

I believe that sometimes people have to go out of their way to find controversy. 

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Ahhh good points. 

And Black Lives Matter has nothing to do with killing cops or being racist.

[BLUEDOVE3]

  On 7/26/2016 at 6:59 AM, PAMFAM10 said:

Man I really hate to do this but what if one of our inner city schools decided to go with a black stripe on their helmet to support another movement ??? If adults like pro teams I'm all for it but to have kids involved in this though issue is just wrong in my opinion. The coaches could have just worn a stripe. 

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Why would you hate to go this route? If the truth fits, then so be it!!

[LumRaiderFan]

  On 7/29/2016 at 1:48 PM, BLUEDOVE3 said:

Ahhh good points. 

And Black Lives Matter has nothing to do with killing cops or being racist.

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Yes they do...you are 100% wrong on that one...this is simply one example.

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[BLUEDOVE3]

  On 7/29/2016 at 2:17 PM, LumRaiderFan said:

Yes they do...you are 100% wrong on that one...this is simply one example.

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First of all, I don't  really expect to change your thinking towards Black Lives Matter because we all have experienced our lives in different shapes, colors, attitudes and upbringing. You and others have the freedom to think what you want.But most of us know the movement is to speak out against injustice and police violence. It REAFFIRMS  the value of Black lives just like all lives matter. 

 

[stevenash]

  On 7/29/2016 at 4:21 PM, BLUEDOVE3 said:

First of all, I don't  really expect to change your thinking towards Black Lives Matter because we all have experienced our lives in different shapes, colors, attitudes and upbringing. You and others have the freedom to think what you want.But most of us know the movement is to speak out against injustice and police violence. It REAFFIRMS  the value of Black lives just like all lives matter. 

 

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I wasn't aware that the fact that any life matters needed reaffirmation.

[LumRaiderFan]

  On 7/29/2016 at 4:21 PM, BLUEDOVE3 said:

First of all, I don't  really expect to change your thinking towards Black Lives Matter because we all have experienced our lives in different shapes, colors, attitudes and upbringing. You and others have the freedom to think what you want.But most of us know the movement is to speak out against injustice and police violence. It REAFFIRMS  the value of Black lives just like all lives matter. 

 

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Oh yeah???

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What I "think" is dictated by what this group does...and by the way, I don't expect to change your thinking on this either.

Why did this happen if they are simply saying all lives matter?

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Of course, ALL lives matter, this group seems to disagree.

[stevenash]

  On 7/29/2016 at 5:01 PM, LumRaiderFan said:

Oh yeah???

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What I "think" is dictated by what this group does...and by the way, I don't expect to change your thinking on this either.

Why did this happen if they are simply saying all lives matter?

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Of course, ALL lives matter, this group seems to disagree.

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I am sure there is a reason that this situation is "different"

[dBerrySports]

Nobody ever said that all lives don't matter, but in this country, black lives have not mattered as much as some other lives for a very long time. BLM's message from the start is that black lives matter "as well", not more than any other group. You deciding to lump all BLM activists into one group that advocates cop-killing (which is untrue as there are BLM leaders who have come out and condemned the killing of police officers as retaliation) is just like someone who decides to lump all police officers into one group, whether they are crooked cops or otherwise. When they are all lumped together, people beg and plead for that not to be the case. But BLM has some extremists that most people disagree with and that falls by deaf ears.

You wouldn't dare group all Christians together based off of what the Westboro Baptist Church does and you wouldn't (well people do, but they shouldn't) group all Muslims together because of ISIS. You pick and choose when to group everyone together and when to separate them.

It is certainly possible to condemn unjustified cop killings and still acknowledge that there is police brutality and unjustified killing by cops of black people. If you don't see that then there's nothing I can do to convince you.

And if you're going to simply post videos and stories that back up your argument, I figure I will post stories that show the other side: 

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[baddog]

So......, I think Vidor, or anyone else for that matter, can wear a blue stripe to show police support without being labeled racist. At least this is a non-violent way of showing support for the people who protect us all.

[BS Wildcats]

  On 7/29/2016 at 1:48 PM, BLUEDOVE3 said:

Ahhh good points. 

And Black Lives Matter has nothing to do with killing cops or being racist.

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Pigs in a blanket, fry like bacon.  How do we want cops?  Dead.  When do we want them, now.  And you're gonna make a statement that BLM has nothing to do with killing cops.  Those two chants say it all.  Must be some good kool-aid you are drinking.

[Hagar]

And as TVC pointed out, the blue stripe supports a Govt organization Police Officers.  Those officers come from All ethnic backgrounds, like all other Govt organizations (Military, DHS, FBI, etc etc).   They are not a political movement.   I'm sorry, but if anyone is trying to compare support for Police with racism, I'd have to question their acceptance of all races.