Baytown Sterling 24 Goose Creek Memorial 18/Final

[BlackShirts5]

yeah, when yall consolidate into one big 6A school and keep the football participation numbers up each year or have only 2 HS in Baytown and keep the football participation numbers up at each of them. 

With 1 school we definable could do it. With 2 schools we could probably have one of them make 2nd round annually..  With the 3 schools it may be a while..  

[Peppermint Patty]

Anyone see any Baytown teams getting strong enough to make it a couple of rounds deep in the playoffs any time in the next ten years?

Asking for a friend.

No. Three schools have stretched us way too thin.

Going "a couple of rounds" would consist of one of us winning our district and playing a 4 seed in Rd 1. I just don't see that happening any time soon. We have some good talent in Baytown, just not all in the same place.

[SFAEAGLES]

No. Three schools have stretched us way too thin.

Going "a couple of rounds" would consist of one of us winning our district and playing a 4 seed in Rd 1. I just don't see that happening any time soon. We have some good talent in Baytown, just not all in the same place.

Help me understand the reasons that schools with lesser student enrollment can do it, but GCM can't. Not trying to be a smart a** here, I just don't see why it is out of the question. 

[Peppermint Patty]

Help me understand the reasons that schools with lesser student enrollment can do it, but GCM can't. Not trying to be a smart a** here, I just don't see why it is out of the question. 

It comes down to what percentage of that enrollment is willing and able to participate in athletics (especially football). Right now, that is a small number no matter what our enrollments may be. Add that to cultural and economic factors and we are what we are.

[BlackShirts5]

Help me understand the reasons that schools with lesser student enrollment can do it, but GCM can't. Not trying to be a smart a** here, I just don't see why it is out of the question. 

1 District they may play in and quality of teams they may face in the 1st or 2nd rounds..

2 The number of kids that will actually come out and play football..

3 Coaching.  And The coaches play a big part in the kids that come out.. It was once said about Sterling the best athletes in the school were walking the halls because due to coaching..  They get a new coach and the numbers went up. Alot..

[Peppermint Patty]

1 District they may play in and quality of teams they may face in the 1st or 2nd rounds..

2 The number of kids that will actually come out and play football..

3 Coaching.  And The coaches play a big part in the kids that come out.. It was once said about Sterling the best athletes in the school were walking the halls because due to coaching..  They get a new coach and the numbers went up. Alot..

1. agree

2. agree

3. disagree 

 

 

[BlackShirts5]

 

1. agree

2. agree

3. disagree 

 

 

How you figure?

[John Blutarsky]

No. Three schools have stretched us way too thin.

Going "a couple of rounds" would consist of one of us winning our district and playing a 4 seed in Rd 1. I just don't see that happening any time soon. We have some good talent in Baytown, just not all in the same

A couple of other factors to consider is growth north of I-10 and along N Hwy 146 and if the district is going to rezone the schools and where those zone boundries lie. The last time they rezoned there was one proposal that showed N. Hwy 146 going to Sterling. There are a lot of athletes that live in that area.

[gary-us-bonds]

I remember in 1991 and 1992, Lee was really bad.

Obviously the demographic has changed a lot for that side of town.  But, I have to believe that GCM, at least, is dealing with a demographic relatively close to what Lee was dealing with in 1995 and 1997 when they were one of the 15-20 best 5a teams in the state likely.

1848 students

45% Hispanic

30% White

20% African-American

45% economically disadvantaged

Relative to the 2200 students Lee probably had, but in the largest division in the state at that time.

I don't see why GCM can't get enough together to make it competitive.

Let's look at Crosby

1488 students

18% African-American

30% Hispanic

48% White

36% economically disadvantaged

 

I keep asking the question,  but where did all of the Baytown athletes go?  You'd probably have to combine Sterling and GCM to give Crosby a run for their money.  That'd be 4,000 students to 1,400 to make it a close game.  

[Peppermint Patty]

How you figure?

I'm just wondering what you're basing your statement on. Where is the increase in football participation numbers? 

 

 

 

[BlackShirts5]

I remember in 1991 and 1992, Lee was really bad.

Obviously the demographic has changed a lot for that side of town.  But, I have to believe that GCM, at least, is dealing with a demographic relatively close to what Lee was dealing with in 1995 and 1997 when they were one of the 15-20 best 5a teams in the state likely.

1848 students

45% Hispanic

30% White

20% African-American

45% economically disadvantaged

Relative to the 2200 students Lee probably had, but in the largest division in the state at that time.

I don't see why GCM can't get enough together to make it competitive.

Let's look at Crosby

1488 students

18% African-American

30% Hispanic

48% White

36% economically disadvantaged

 

I keep asking the question,  but where did all of the Baytown athletes go?  You'd probably have to combine Sterling and GCM to give Crosby a run for their money.  That'd be 4,000 students to 1,400 to make it a close game.  

Coaching!!!!!!!!!!!

[BlackShirts5]

I'm just wondering what you're basing you statement on. Where is the increase in football participation numbers? 

 

 

 

I am just going off what one of the coaches and player had told me for last years team..  Said last year compared to the year before there was almost 100 if not more kids that came out to play for the New incoming coach. 

 

Of coarse I have no real numbers on paper so my statement is nothing.

[Peppermint Patty]

Coaching!!!!!!!!!!!

GCM has been competitive. 

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Olin Recruiting Services. 

[BlackShirts5]

GCM has been competitive. 

Never said they haven't been competitive..  

Whats there overall record Since they Started playing football?  Whats their record against surrounding Schools, BH, Crosby, Dayton, Lee, Sterling and in district?  

[BlackShirts5]

GCM has been competitive.  Overall	33-44
Non-District	8-15
District	25-25
Playoffs	0-4

Are these numbers correct?

[gary-us-bonds]

GCM has been at the lower end of competitive.

They have not been good by any stretch.  I don't think it is all coaching, but I do think that GCM has sort of just settled into mediocrity and not really demanded any sort of excellence.

 

[Peppermint Patty]

 

Look about right. Do you have the same info for RSS and REL during the same time period? 

[BlackShirts5]

GCM has been at the lower end of competitive.

They have not been good by any stretch.  I don't think it is all coaching, but I do think that GCM has sort of just settled into mediocrity and not really demanded any sort of excellence.

 

I would have to agree.. 

I have to believe that GCM has and can have the talent in that school to be competitive and win more games.  

[BlackShirts5]

Look about right. Do you have the same info for RSS and REL during the same time period? 

 

We all know what Sterling is..  We know Lee is losing kids left and right..  I am not arguing that they are good or bad. I am arguing that GCM has the tools and athletes to be better but not the right guy. swinging the hammer. But hey We have a 5-0 record against Lee.

[BlackShirts5]

1-3 vs BH

1-3 vs Dayton

1-3 vs Crosby

0-2 vs Sterling

Pretty competitive against our local teams.

[Peppermint Patty]

1-3 vs BH

1-3 vs Dayton

1-3 vs Crosby

0-2 vs Sterling

Pretty competitive against our local teams.

GCM has never beat Crosby,

BH, Dayton, Crosby are apples and oranges. We will never consistently compete with schools with their name on the water tower.

Sterling should beat us. 

I've been in Baytown for most of my life. Football will go in cycles. Sterling is up right now an still cannot win a game in 6A. It's not going to get any better.

[John Blutarsky]

I'll just leave this here.

 

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The Goose Creek Memorial Patriots football team won Friday's home conference game against Crosby in overtime by a score of 41-34.

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Edited September 11, 2015 by John Blutarsky

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The Goose Creek Memorial Patriots football team won Friday's home conference game against Crosby in overtime by a score of 41-34.

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Always forget that game. It was a great win. I stand corrected. 

[BlackShirts5]

GCM has never beat Crosby,

BH, Dayton, Crosby are apples and oranges. We will never consistently compete with schools with their name on the water tower.

Sterling should beat us. 

I've been in Baytown for most of my life. Football will go in cycles. Sterling is up right now an still cannot win a game in 6A. It's not going to get any better.

And why cant or should we not ever be able to compete consistently with these school..  Sterling is still sterling..  And they did win 1 6A game lol