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leopard201, I understand you being a loyal supporter for your team but honestly I think your LG leopards are in for a rude awakening! I don't think ya'll have faced a defense quite like WOS! I don't understand your logic though, cause you said HJ opened up holes against WOS and ran through them but the score sure didn't reflect that so, I guess you will just have to wait and see for yourself. WOS DEFENSE always shows up! Should be a great game come Friday night, safe travels to everyone!

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Mustangs have given up more than 21 once all year, 27 to PNG and that was all in the first half. They adjusted at halftime, clamped down and came back and won in OT. 5A PNG averaged 40+ a game and was probably the best passing attack WOS saw all season with a healthy ground game. After witnessing what I did last week I see a much improved D from the PNG game that I would be shocked if a primarily run heavy team like LG could dismantle. Not saying cant happen, just that it would be a shocker and I'd give serious props to that team. I know LG fans keep saying "we can pass we just haven't had to all season", but I'm telling you that the WOS secondary is not who you want your QB cutting his teeth on. A lot of teams this time of year find out the hard way that you can't just turn on an effective passing game thats been dormant against fourth round defenses.
Good Luck to both teams. Really looking forward to seeing young Mr. Dobbins against that WOS D. Should be great entertainment no matter the outcome
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Mustangs have given up more than 21 once all year, 27 to PNG and that was all in the first half. They adjusted at halftime, clamped down and came back and won in OT. 5A PNG averaged 40+ a game and was probably the best passing attack WOS saw all season with a healthy ground game. After witnessing what I did last week I see a much improved D from the PNG game that I would be shocked if a primarily run heavy team like LG could dismantle. Not saying cant happen, just that it would be a shocker and I'd give serious props to that team. I know LG fans keep saying "we can pass we just haven't had to all season", but I'm telling you that the WOS secondary is not who you want your QB cutting his teeth on. A lot of teams this time of year find out the hard way that you can't just turn on an effective passing game thats been dormant against fourth round defenses.
Good Luck to both teams. Really looking forward to seeing young Mr. Dobbins against that WOS D. Should be great entertainment no matter the outcome

 

I agree, we are much improved since the PNG game and I honestly believe since the HJ game. Dobbins is a great back, but they will have to pass the ball significantly to beat us.

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He can run for over 200 as long as we win by 1!

I could be wrong, but my father was telling me a story last week about the state rushing record being put on us in the '86 semi-finals. We won that game then the very next week in the SC, their back(Mckinney) broke the record of the rb from the previous week?? Is that correct?

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Found this national HS player ranking for 1987. Simmons was ranked above Emmit Smith. Some other interesting names on it too. Look at #15 on the RB list.

 

Here is Trocoli's list of the top recruits in the country, their home towns and the colleges they will attend:

RUNNING BACKS

1. Darren Lewis, Dallas, Texas A&M

2. Randy Simmons, McKinney, Texas, Texas A&M

3. Emmett Smith, Pensacola, Fla., Florida

4. Ricky Watters, Harrisburg, Notre Dame

5. Leroy Thompson, Knoxville, Tenn., Penn State

6. Carlos Snow, Cincinnati, Ohio State

7. Leotis Flowers, Omaha, Nebraska

8. George Hemmingway, Colton, Calif., Colorado

9. Scott Lockwood, Boulder, Colo., USC

10. Tommy Booker, Vista, Calif. (unsigned)

11. Tony Brooks, Tulsa, Notre Dame

12. Gerald Mitchell, Crane, Texas, Texas A&M

13. Glenn Dell, Muskogee, Okla., Oklahoma

14. Gary Brown, Williamsport, Penn State

15. Brian Cleveland, West Orange, Texas, Georgia

16. Ricky Ervins, Pasadena, Calif., USC

17. Rodney Hampton, Houston, Georgia

18. Mike Gaddis, Midwest City, Okla., Oklahoma

19. Vaughn Dunbar, Fort Wayne, Ind., Indiana

20. Leonard Russell, Long Beach, Calif. (unsigned)

21. Danny Boyd, Norristown, Pitt

22. Alfonso Ellis, Thomasville, Ga., Georgia

23. Leroy Smith, Sicklerville, N.J., Iowa

24. Barry Foster, Duncanville, Texas, Arkansas

25. James Graham, Long Beach, N.Y. (unsigned)

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN

1. Matt McCall, Lufkin, Texas, Texas A&M

2. Brian Boerboom, Colorado Springs, Colo., Nebraska

3. Scott Adell, Asheville, N.C., N.C. State

4. Brian Kelly, South Torrance, Calif., UCLA

5. Norman Ballentine, Florrisant, Mo., Notre Dame

6. Brian Brauninger, Arlington, Texas, Oklahoma

7. Russ McCullough, Olathe, Kan., Alabama

8. Steve Mills, San Jose, Calif., USC

9. Kelvin Hankins, Camden Wilson, Clemson

10. Dean Dingman, East Troy, Wis., Michigan

11. Claude Jones, Fort Lauderdale, Fla., Miami

12. Greg Lakin, Houston, Texas A&M

13. Glenn Neely, Olive Branch, Miss., Florida

14. Greg Skerpenak, Wilkes-Barre, Michigan

15. Dave Turner, Clinton, Iowa, Iowa

16. Paul Siever, Downingtown, Penn State

17. Lamonte Tellis, Atlanta, Georgia

18. McKinzie Phillips, Springdale, Ark., Arkansas

19. Bill Schoenle, Williamsville, N. Y., Tennessee

20. Ed Cunningham, Alexandria, Va., Washington

21. Gary Isakson, Apple Valley, Minn., Minnesota

22. Todd Keene, Houston, Miami

23. James Rae, Anaheim, Calif., UCLA

24. John Ray, Charleston, W.Va., West Virginia

25. Dewayne Spaan, Laporte, Texas, Arkansas

LINEBACKERS

1. Sean Howard, Encino, UCLA

2. Jeff Christy, Freeport, Pa., Pitt

3. Anthony Judge, Fort Lauderdale, Auburn

4. Rick Williams, Detroit (unsigned)

5. Jerrod Vance, Massillon, Ohio, Penn State

6. Tim Ryan, Kansas City, Mo., Notre Dame

7. Keith McCants, Mobile, Ala., Alabama

8. Mark D'Onofrio, North Bergen, N. J., Penn State

9. Bill Anderson, Atlanta (unsigned)

10. Chris Corich, Chicago, Notre Dame

11. James Malone, Richardson, Texas, UCLA

12. John Derby, Oconomowoc, Wis., Iowa

13. Jo Jo Brown, Houston, LSU

14. Jim Deter, Dubois, Pa., Penn State

15. Pat Stant, New Orleans, Tulane

16. Sam Gash, Hendersonville, N. C., Penn State

17. Carlos Marino, Detroit, Michigan State

18. Mical Padgett, Beaumont, Texas, Texas

19. Bill Bjerke, West Islip, N. Y., North Carolina

20. Steve Ramer, Monroeville, Ala., Alabama

21. Don Grimm, South Moreland, Pa., Notre Dame

22. Deron Dobzanski, Paulsboro, N. J., Clemson

DEFENSIVE BACKS

1. Louis Riddick, Perkasie, Pa., Pitt

2. Matt Darby, Virginia Beach, UCLA

3. Kirk Collins, Lamarcke, Texas, Arkansas

4. Jim Watkins, Olathe, Kan., Arizona State

5. Jeff Graham, Kettering, Ohio, Ohio State

6. Eugene Burkhalter, Long Beach, Calif., Washington

7. Marvin Pollard, Wilmington, Calif., USC

8. Todd Lyght, Flint, Mich., Notre Dame

9. Jeremy Lincoln, Toledo, Ohio, Tennessee

10. Marion Bates, Tucson, Ariz., USC

11. Otis Kearney, Toms River, N. J. (unsigned)

12. Nathan Laduke, Phoenix, Arizona State

13. Adrian Citizen, Lake Charles, La., LSU

14. Kelvin Fisher, Ambridge, Pa., Arizona State

15. Cedric McKinnon, Coral Gables, Fla. (unsigned)

WIDE RECEIVERS

1. Nate Turner, Chicago, Nebraska

2. Gus Palma, Bellport, N. Y., Illinois

3. Johnny Walker, San Antonio, Texas, Texas

4. Terrance Barber, Auburndale, Fla., Florida

5. Tripp Welburne, Greensboro, N. C., Michigan

6. Anthony Morgan, Cleveland, Ohio, Tennessee

7. Pat Rowe, San Diego (unsigned)

8. Eddie Miller, Decatur, Ga., South Carolina

9. Derek Russell, Little Rock, Ark. (unsigned)

10. Tom Owen, Gig Harbor, Wash. (unsigned)

11. Keith Cash, San Antonio, Texas, Texas

12. Kerry Cash, San Antonio, Texas, Texas

TIGHT ENDS

1. Frank Jacobs, Newport, Ky., Notre Dame

2. Chris Craig, Toledo, Ohio (unsigned)

3. Jeff Ellis, Louisville, Ky., Ohio State

4. Corey Booker, Old Tappan, N. J., Stanford

5. Doug Amaya, Oak Park, Ill., Illinois

6. Joe Sims, Sudbury, Mass., Nebraska

7. John Wilson, Haleyville, Ala., Auburn

8. Steve Stutsman, Dangerfield, Texas, Baylor

9. Dan Lohmeier, Omaha, Nebraska

10. Dan Spencer, Valparaiso, Ind., Indiana

DEFENSIVE LINEMEN

1. Mark Spindler, West Scranton, Pa., Pitt

2. Scott Spaulding, El Toro, Calif., UCLA

3. Brad Culpepper, Tallahassee, Fla., Florida

4. Stacy Dillard, Clarksville, Texas, Oklahoma

5. David Rocker, Atlanta, Auburn

6. Mike Brandon, Taylor County, Fla., Florida

7. John Johnson, LaGrange, Ga., Clemson

8. Rob Phenix, Rosemont, Minn., TCU

9. Jon Gustaffson, Buffalo Grove, Ill., Illinois

10. Kraig Hackbart, Fond du Lac, Wis., Wisconsin

11. Tim Herman, Lincoln, Neb., Nebraska

12. Jeff Huff, Deer Park, Texas, Texas A&M

13. Steve Scoggins, Apopka, Fla., Florida

14. Steve Webb, Holt, Ala., Alabama

15. Alfred Williams, Houston, Colorado

16. Andre Jones, Hyattsville, Md., Notre Dame

17. Sean Love, Tamaqua, Pa., Penn State

18. Peter Rausch, Fort Myers, Fla., Notre Dame

19. Terrence Poe, Los Angeles, Washington

20. George Williams, Willingboro Kennedy, N.J., Notre Dame

QUARTERBACKS

1. Mickey Joseph, Marrero, La., Nebraska

2. Kent Graham, Wheaton, Ill., Notre Dame

3. Jimmy Bonds, Newhall, Calif., UCLA

4. Deems May, Lexington, N.C., North Carolina

5. Jason Palumbus, Lake Oswego, Ore., Stanford

6. Ken Ford, Port Arthur, Texas, Oklahoma State

7. Ricky Vestal, Houston, Baylor

8. Clint Alexander, Gainesville, Fla., Duke

9. Darnell Dickerson, Detroit, Pitt

10. Wilbur Odom, San Antonio, Texas, Michigan

11. Ty Detmer, San Antonio, Texas, BYU

12. Andy Kelly, Evansville County, Tenn., Tennessee

13. Matt Rodgers, Walpole, Mass., Iowa

14. Ken Sollom, Canyon County, Calif., Michigan

15. Bobby Valdez, Tucson, Ariz. (unsigned)

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HJ is our common opponent. If #12 for HJ looks like he ran for over 100 yards, Dobbins is going to run 200 yard's on WOS. I see a few wrinkles in that WOS defense

All defences have "wrinkles". The question is can he get to that wrinkle with defenders in the backfield. Wos doesnt aligator arm tackle...they wrap up. Most of the runs LG had last week, a HJ player hit him in the backfield. Very frustrating to watch.

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I could be wrong, but my father was telling me a story last week about the state rushing record being put on us in the '86 semi-finals. We won that game then the very next week in the SC, their back(Mckinney) broke the record of the rb from the previous week?? Is that correct?

 

I believe his name was Randy Simmons. I could be wrong he was a beast

 

Wasn't it Edwin Simmons? I knowhe went to the University of Texas. Big kid, ran straight up sorta Eric Dickerson style. I was at that game.

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You can not compare HJ against lagrange to when hj played WOS. I was at the Hj and lagrange game and Hj looked like a total different team against lagrange. A lot better , but us (WOS) has also gotten a lot better. Remember this is HS FOOTBALL, anything can happen on any day. Throw out all the records and everything. Whoever prepared themselves this whole week will win this ball game.
My prediction will remain the same my school by 2tds but friday is just tomorrow!
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