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The feeders into Toledo Bend are about 40-50 miles north and about 20-50 miles east of Rayburn. I guess it didn't rain for enough north and east.

They have tied for first place a couple of times but lost in head to head competition, so they could not be declared district champs. With the three playoff system, that is a pride issue only since both schools advance. Nederland has made the playoffs year after year, just not as the district champion (although a few times they were the "Big School Champ").

Not far enough north.

Did you get a PM from the mod or admin that deleted it?

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For whitetail deer? I would go with at least a .243 (although a .223 would work with the right setup). It also depends on the maximum range that you intend to shoot. The .243 can reach out and kill east Texas whitetails with no problem. A .270 is probably the most popular (or maybe the 30-30). It has a mix of a fairly heavy bullet' date=' good speed and is hard hitting downrange. You could probably push it out to 400 yards fairly easily and still get a good kill. If you are hunting an area and never intend to shoot more than 75-100 yards, you could even use a 30-30. It hits plenty hard within its range and its main limitation is the bullet drop downrange. In this same class of cartridges are things like the .260, .280 and 25-06. They are all excellent rounds. The main difference in them is the availability of ammo locally. Then there is the 30-06 or .308. The .308 seems to have a fairly strong following and is a good round. The 30-06 was probably the most popular round for many years but since the military shortened it into the .308, it is not so popular but still has a strong following. One of the main attractions of the 30-06 is the wide range of guns and bullets available. You can get it from a 110 grain bullet to a massive 220 grain. You can use the 30-06 for everything from varmit hunting ground hogs at 400 yards to hunting elk at the same range in Colorado. Then you could get into the really heavy and powerful rounds. Those are okay in case a water buffalo or grizzly bear happens to get lost in east Texas. You can go the .300 mag or the .338 mag. Heck, why not go up to the .458 Winchester. Probably in this class is the 7mm mag. It is a very hard hitting round but most people claim that it does not kick like some of the other magnum rounds. These rounds are certainly not required for a clean one shot kill over a Texas whitetail, especially in east Texas. These rounds are fairly ridiculous when it comes to killing whitetails. They are expensive, kick like a mule and kill no faster. If you want to tell everyone how big of a gun that you have and how big of a stud you are for shooting one, by all means go for it. You may one day get a chance to hunt moose in Montana and if you do, you already have your gun. [b']For a new hunter buying a rifle for whitetail, I would stick with the .243, 30-30, or the .270. Those are good solid rounds and the .243 and .270 will take whitetails at almost any range in east Texas. The 30-30 is equal to the task but the bullet drops fairly dramatically after about 100 yards, making long range shots very difficult. These rounds do not kick nearly as much as some of the heavier rounds. Most small children can handle a .243 with little problem. The best point about these rounds is that you can buy the ammo anywhere. No need to mail order, handload or go to gun shops for high priced rounds that only they carry. You can probably walk into a mom and pop store in the country and buy rounds for them, including the 30-06. They are just that popular and that should tell you a lot.

For freshwater in the south, largemouth black bass.

Define "best". Are you talking quantity, table fare, easy of catching, etc? Largemouth is the most popular if you are talking about money spent in pursuit of. Smallmouth, while it might be fun catching them, is almost non-existent in the deep south. Catfish is hardly a gamefish at all but maybe the most tasty in some people's opinion. They are more the type of fish that you catch more on a trotline than chase on rod and reel, although that can be fun also. People catfish when they are looking for food whereas bass fishing is more of a sport, almost like hunting. Catfish are good in that people normally don't have $40,000 catfish boats like they do for bass fishing. A guy with a cane pole can go down to a local canal and have a good chance at some cats. Try that with bass fishing...... Crappie Is likely second to bass in terms of popularity in both catching and eating. At the right times of the year, it can also be a more "relaxing" type of fishing more suited for a family doing something together rather than pounding a cove hour after hour looking for that elusive largemouth. Party boats are a good way to go crappie fishing, especially with a group of people. Try getting 3 or more people in a boat slinging lures in every direction every few seconds looking for largemouth. Talk about a sure recipe for disaster. Bream is usually the easiest to catch and pound for pound (or more likely, ounce for ounce) the strongest fish out there. The problem with bream is their diminutive size. When matched with the right tackle (especially flyrod), they can be excellent fun and it is easy for kids to learn to fish for them. In freshwater, nothing is better to teach a child to fish for than bream. They can usually get the immediate success needed to keep a child's attention and it normally doesn't take a lot of skill to master. Bring a 5 year old bass fishing for his first trip and you might put him off from fishing for the rest of his life. Best sportfish-Largemouth Ease of catching (and thereby most fun?)-Bream Best food quantity-Catfish Best for family outing-Crappie

For a few years they have had this program in about 8 counties from near San Antonio down toward the coast near Victoria. I have talked to biologists from down there and they said the program was poorly received when it first went into effect. It became popular fairly quickly when hunters started seeing their deer herds have more quality. I wish they would make the change for the whole state. Most managed leased have those rules (or more restrictive) anyway. It kind of forces the rest of the hunters to comply with common sense wildlife management. There is no point killing a 6 month old or 18 month old deer and that accounts for a huge portion of the deer killed by hunters.

Whew. I hate hunting in shorts for opening weekend.

But WO-S has been a school about 40 years less than Nederland or PN-G.

And have PN-G lose one.

There are still a few critical games to be be playbe but IF that is the way it ended, it would play out like this: Vidor beat Nederland who beat PN-G who beat Vidor. No team beat the two other teams so head-to-head is out. Now for the points: Nederland lost to Vidor by 4 points_____-4 Nederland beat PN-G by 7 points______+7 for a total of +3 PN-G lost to Nederland by 7 points______-7 PN-G beat Vidor by 7 points___________+7 for a total of 0 Vidor beat Nederland by 4 points______+4 Vidor lost to PN-G by 7 points__________-7 for a total of -3 Nederland +3 PN-G______0 Vidor_____-3 Nederland goes in the point spread.

There was the coin flip from last year but that was because all of the tied teams had not played each other. Unless the 22-4A executive committee has changed the rules this year, it is head-to-head first and then common points between the tied teams. There is a maximum amount of points allowed per game. I think it is 16 points. For example, if it came down to points, the LC-M 42-0 win over PN-G would only go down at +16 points instead of +42.

If PN-g can knock of Central and Dayton back-to-back, then they deserve to be in the playoffs. I don't see it happening but I will sure back them up in the playoffs if they can pull it off.

This is quite an interesting thread. LCMV starts out by saying that they should and hopefully will beat Lumberton. Then LCMV asks if Lumberton can help them (after stating that they will beat Lumberton first) by beating Nederland. Luv Ya Blue then said that they will do all they can for LC-M. The only problem is, that to help LC-M, Lumberton must lose to them. Is Lumberton really going to try and help LC-M get into the playoffs?

I notice that a lot of people on forums get overly sensitive toward a community or school due to rantings of someone. Every community has people that talk smack, rant about others and generally create mayhem. I don't see how that reflects on the community unless a majority of people from there are doing it. In most cases it is just the people that come out of the woodwork and get on their soapbox since they won't have to defend it face to face. With all the smack talk toward Nederland this year from Vidor and LC-M, I don't assume that their fans are bad people from bad communities. They are not any different than Nederland fans. Anonymous forums just give people the chance to open their mouth and show how little they actually know.

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Yes, she did add the part about winning state that year as well as the part about always supporting them. In both circumstances, they are obvious reasons that PN-G will prevail in two weeks.

Now that is funny.