tvc184

I don't think it is either but to say the players don't or shouldn't care is wrong in my opinion. They are not a bunch of unfeeling robots out there. If they were, we should be able to post anything we want about them on these boards since they shouldn't care without any feelings getting hurt. That just isn't the case.

I think players at any level like a strong support from the fans. Maybe you have never seen players turn to a crowd and try to get them pumped up when it is crunch time but I have. I haven't been in high school for a long time so maybe it has changed but I think the players realize when the fans are walking out on them and I do not believe that they have no feelings when it happens. That goes for teams all the way up to the pros.

There were quite a few teams that seemed to be underachievers this year but I can't figure that any of them that did as bad as Ozen. I know that some people picked them to miss the playoffs but a lot of others thought they should contend for a playoff spot, if not the championship. I don't know anyone that picked them to go 1-9 and tie for last place in the district. That and most of the games they lost were not even competitive.

GP is not the underdog but their coach sure wants to sell it that way. It is just smart coaching to get his team pumped and maybe get the other team overconfident. It is the opposite of what is normally called bulletin board material. The opposing coach comes in groveling to make it look like his team doesn't even belong. Smart move but GP is not the underdog.

I don't know, Nederland did.

They gave up less points all year than Nederland gave up to Central.

He didn't say that you should not post. He was just referring to what I posted next but I think Mike just left it up to the imagination whereas I put it into words as a public service.

And what a great comeback win it was. On the other hand, Nederland went on into the playoffs and Vidor stays home again. Want to trade positions?

You are correct. You are an adult for criminal laws in Texas at 17 years of age.

Well, that and killing off the does also. We kill lots of does on our lease and still have plenty of them.

It is simply a matter of letting them grow up. There are plenty of deer but when you hunt an area where they go by the credo, "If it's brown-it's down", nothing will ever get past 1.5 years old. Once a deer reaches 3.5 years, he starts to get into at least the quality deer range and at 4.5 into the trophy range (I am probably preaching to the choir in here). You could get a couple of thousand acres, surround it with a deer proof fence and then fill it with fawns and in three years, you are going to be killing big deer and it will stay that way each year after that if no one will kill anything under 3.5 years old.

I wish they would go statewide on those antler restrictions so the guy on the next lease won't kill them. If they would go statewide, in a couple of years we would all be seeing good deer with a spread outside of the ears. We have been doing that on my lease anyway but I see people kill some of the deer we let go after they cross the property line.

As you mentioned, you have used the .243, .270 and the 6mm and all are effective in killing of whitetails. I was only referring to it being ridiculous as a requirement for a quick clean kill of a whitetail (which is all I was talking about). Not on this forum but I have heard quite a few people claim that if you aren't hunting a 300 win mag (or similar high powered round), then you are not using an effective whitetail firearm. In my opinion, that is a ridiculous statement. I have had friends tell me that they use a 300 wm because "I don't want to have the deer run off". Well I have only killed deer with a .270 and have never had to track any of them. A couple of friends/acquaintances almost seem to relish in the fact that they are using a real man's gun and I am using a lowly .270. There is nothing wrong with the 300 win mag or any other high powered round other than cost and kick but to each his own. It is just not nearly a requirement for a quick clean kill of a whitetail.

Once an article like that makes it to the public news, then it should be able to be posted here. The arrested student, his family or the team should not be personally attacked but to discuss what has been made public by a recognized news source seems appropriate. There is a big difference between the discussion of public news with its effect on a team and personally attacking a person, team, etc. It should be okay to say, "his team will have a much harder time winning now". It should not be okay to say, "the whole team is a bunch of dopers and the coach is a low-life anyway... blah blah".

From the news report, it is hard to tell what happened anyway. They list conflicting information, which is not unusual. Was it just a fight between students and a kid got a ticket or was it an assault with injuries? An assault is one sided but the article also mentions altercation which is a fight. Six other students were also disciplined. If the police are issuing citations for the altercation, why were they not given a citation if they were involved? About all that you can tell from the article is that something happened, the news media got wind of it and no one will likely find out the truth.

Collier-Sharp ran a page on teams that showed no playoffs ever. They have not updated their pages in a couple of years so it might not be current but is likely close. AAAAA Houston Northbrook NONE (since 1974) AAAA Lumberton NONE (since 1966) AAA Whitesboro NONE (since 1936) AA Boys Ranch NONE (since 1962) Palmer NONE (31 years) Malakoff Cross Roads NONE (since 1980) A Bruni NONE (since 1947) May NONE (25 years) Savoy NONE (20 years) 6 MAN Lefors NONE (21 years)

I would like to add something to that... but I just can't think of anything to improve it.

I think that when he gets to be a senior and polishes his playing a little more, you will begin to hear about him.