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Two years or at the discretion of the ADs per the by-law.. Two years (even if you do not count this year) would leave the Bobcats as an independent with one more year before the moratorium is lifted. It would really hurt their athletic program... Now, if Lamar plays a full SLC slate in 2010 (as at least one of you want), that would handle that issue. I'm fine with 11 teams across the board in all sports for a year or two until we add another squad...

Come on now, SLC did have their championship game on ESPN2! On the football field, the SLC is batting .500 against the SBC with McNeese undefeated against the SBC since the founding of the league...when it comes to being a good FCS league, our teams have scheduled themselves out of the playoffs the last few years, pretty much eliminating everyone from contention in the second week of league play. This year is slightly better as far as scheduling, we'll see if the schools can continue to improve the scheduling. We were at a disadvantage due to the SWAC's nine-game mandate which restricted their OOC to two games. It's now four games, starting this year and we're seeing more SWAC vs SLC. Lots of conferences can bus to OOC foes in FCS outside of the SLC, GWFC and Big Sky. If it was that easy, scheduling would be better. SHSU is playing a Big South foe (Gardner-Webb) this year, which is great... Baseball, the SBC is a one pony league this year, just like the SLC will be, more than likely. I do not think we are too far behind the SBC when it comes to baseball. Our weaker teams in the league are just much weaker than that of the SBC's... Baskeball, the SBC has changed their standards and it has increased the conference's chances at getting an at-large team. The SLC is improving in basketball (even you in Beaumont can agree -- we had an RPI of 20 this year), but we need to work as a conference to improve the league...

Thanks... I tend to post longer posts instead of those one-liners. If I am going to post something, I prefer to post something with substance. The fact of the matter remains and the word has been passed along is that the SLC is giving a serious look into what it needs to do in the short term and long term across many fronts from the SLC basketball tournament to the membership-related issues (which includes possibly following the by-laws and booting San Marcos)... I'm curious to know what the results of the formal poll around the SLC was as it relates to the BKB tournament. ABR3, UNLV and coachacola...would you be inclined to allow the WBB season to wrap up a week before so they could do their own tournament separate from the men? We already have mirror scheduling, so it's not like this would be anything to impact that -- heck, we may end up with a few doubleheaders, which wouldn't be a bad thing...

I recall seeing that about Barrack Obama. Could not remember who til you mentioned it...

As Sammy the Owls turns... From "Scoop" Berman... HOUSTON -- College basketball sources have identified three more candidates involved in the search for a new basketball coach at Rice. They are Bob McKillop from Davidson, Craig Robinson from Brown, and former Cal coach Ben Braun. Rice athletics director Chris Del Conte will neither confirm nor deny who the candidates are but he told FOX 26 Sports Thursday he is looking at a long list of coaches. "I am casting a wide net," Del Conte said. "I can promise you this I have not offered the job to anybody during this process." [Hidden Content]

Rice faithful's scoop on their board is that the finalists are...

UNLV -- you are getting into a favorite conversation of mine, conference re-alignment. If Denver and UALR were to leave the SBC, they would have 11 schools, which equals just one spot. Way to move away from the original conversation, but I guess this does have some to do with it! Oral Roberts has a quality athletic program and I'd be interested to see where they went. They are at a disadvantage due to a lack of football team, as that would make them even more attractive for a conference. North Dakota and South Dakota? Are you referring to UND and USD or NDSU and SDSU? I'd love to see the old NCC (North Central Conference), a Div II conference -- get their act back together. That was a strong Div II conference across many sports and I think, especially with how these schools should be able to compete in football (or have), a helluva Div I conference. The xDSUs have already moved to the Gateway for football, so that may keep the Dakota schools seperate for awhile... Another question, will the MVC add football anytime soon? Drake is a non-scholarship. They could move up into full-scholly Div I. Illinois State, Indiana State, Missouri State, Northern Iowa and Southern Illinois all have football at the FCS level. Wichita State could add (you seem to believe they will) and Eastern Illinois is an affiliate member, they have an FCS team, perhaps they could move in as a full member? Five current FCS full-scholly members. One non-scholly FCS member. Add EIU and Wichita St, you can have something there.

If Denver leaves -- you have 12 teams, which is much more ideal than 13 they have now. DU has a few more years to meet the SBC requirements as far as SBC sports goes. We'll see what happens there as I'm not really sure. DU has strong skiing and hockey programs, which of course, neither is a SBC sport. Doubt the SBC would let UNO go if they can meet the NCAA/SBC standards once their waiver due to Katrina is up. SBC worked to get that program back on it's two feet and the school is located in the same city as the Sun Belt offices and the Sun Belt's bowl tie-in (New Orleans Bowl), plus the institution can host championship events (just hosted the NCAA Regional for WBB this past weekend) which is something that the conference likes to do. UALR is in a great position due to nearby rival Arkansas State and already meeting the SBC requirement of 15 championship sports (which DU and UNO do not). Only way that Texas State-San Marcos (and any other SLC school wanting to move out) goes to the Sun Belt is if C-USA comes calling for those SBC schools...

ABR3, Does not matter if Lamar has wins over SHSU the last two times out. This is about football, but as I noted elsewhere in this thread, you guys do not have a successful football program (yet) nor a consistent basketball team. No one is in the dark about your basketball history, but that is what it is, history -- most of it, before any of your traditional students were born. That can not be denied. Not saying SHSU is great by any stretch of the imagination. It's going to be tough to move into an FBS conference when you do not have "impressive" credentials in those two sports as those are the ones people care about -- and pending conference, baseball as well. When it comes to FBS, Lamar does not matter much to me until they actually have a team on the gridiron that plays SLC football and in such case, it does not matter to the discussion at hand. Can we get back to the topic at hand, Texas State-San Marcos, their announcement of FBS and why they are currently in position to be given the boot out of the SLC? Lamar has nothing to do with this. The only person remotely connected to Lamar that matters if Billy Tubbs because he has a say and a big one at that...

Lamar does not have football nor a compelling argument to move to FBS at this point due to a) current lack of football (with no telling how well they will do) -- schools like South Alabama have an advantage already having a seat at the table despite a lack of football, which just makes adding football easier... can not say they have been consistent in men's basketball, which would obviously be a foot in the door to any FBS conference... It's a different situation...

Will give your program credit... For as much as you guys talk about Lamar being this great basketball power, you have one NCAA tournament appearance in the last however many years to claim for it -- and that was one of those years you were a very bad seed... And for as much as Texas State - San Marcos has the $$$ and all the talented recruits that picked them over FBS schools and plenty more (picking themselves to win the SLC each and every year), they have one SLC title and it was a co-championship with players recruited by a known NCAA rule violator... Very similar...but then again, football-wise. Lamar does not have a team on the field just yet and until they do, there's no telling whether they will be successful in the SLC . No telling if you will be closer to McNeese or closer to your TSUS sister school in San Marcos...

If that's the case, what are you good at, outside of getting under my skin? Not sure what this ratio has to do with anything... Did you know that schools with larger enrollments than yours have Div II football and Div III football? Did you know that schools in larger MSAs than the Golden Triangle have Div II and Div III football? We can all pull stats out of our backside that do not mean much...

Incorrect. Those schools were members of the Gulf Star Conference, a Division I conference. Correct, the SLC did turn them down when they were Division II members trying to get in, but after a few schools left, they had to let those schools that they turned down, now Division I members, in... That's what Texas State - San Marcos did wrong. They announced they were going to FBS through several different means (the job post, public announcements on campus, etc) and by doing so, announced their intentions to leave the Southland Conference. One can not be FBS and in the SLC. We are not doing La-Monroe again in the conference. In announcing their intentions to leave the conference, read the by-laws. It clearly states what happens from here... And you are right, Texas State - San Marcos will not get kicked out because as noted on my previous post..."It's unfortunate that the SLC will not act because unless Billy Tubbs doesn't like it (and since Lamar doesn't have football yet, he could care less), nothing is going to happen...and that quite frankly, is the view of many around the conference, whether they will say so or not..." And UTSA has announced their plan to go to FBS in their feasibility plan, but until they have football, does it really matter? They have no set time frame to bring in football and it's not as pressing an issue as it is for Texas State - San Marcos, who already participates in the conference as an FCS member.

UTSA is not a member of the conference in football. They have yet to do anything as far as announcing football is a go and have yet to make as bold a statement as Texas State-San Marcos has as it relates to their football program -- namely due to a lack of a program at present time. ABR3, several things... 1) Texas State - San Marcos will not win the SLC next season. In their 20+ years in the conference, they have one title, one they won in large part due to recruits brought in by the biggest rule violator the SLC has seen in the 21st century -- Manny Mataskis -- including one, Barrick Nealy, who was brought in illegally. 2) SHSU fans want Texas State - San Marcos out of the conference because of the rules laid out by the SLC by-laws. It is our feeling that certain individuals in the conference refuse to acknowledge the by-laws. The by-laws were set in place for the good of the conference, just like all other by-laws. These by-laws, if you read them, dictate how things work in the conference and while I disagree with some things (i.e I want the limit of sub-Div I basketball games reduced to four and football games reduced to one), they are the rules and we must abide by them. The conference must acknowledge that Texas State - San Marcos has announced a move to FBS and in doing so, they have activated a condition of the by-laws. The conference needs to announce now that they plan to cut ties with Texas State-San Marcos at the end of the second academic year and also make it clear what privileges will not be allowed by Texas State - San Marcos as those two years go by. This is pretty similar protocol to that of other conferences. While I'd like for Texas State - San Marcos to have a rough road to FBS (considering they did "flourish" at this level -- ha!), I do understand they are granted their two years. To me, the conference has not officially acknowledged that Texas State - San Marcos has announced a move up, but they have on numerous occasions. The conference refuses to talk about it and needs to be pressed on the issue. It's unfortunate that the SLC will not act because unless Billy Tubbs doesn't like it (and since Lamar doesn't have football yet, he could care less), nothing is going to happen...and that quite frankly, is the view of many around the conference, whether they will say so or not...

There is a post on KatFans.com with some remarks on two SLC recruits (one SHSU, one Lamar) playing in an All-Star Game in Houston... [Hidden Content]

Going to play as an independent in everything else? When I say that we need to kick out Texas State - San Marcos for announcing their plans to move to FBS, that is for every sport... Not sure you guys would like being an independent without a home. It'd hurt your chances of making post-season events across the board and would hurt recruiting, but hey, you never have the best interests of Lamar at heart. UNLV -- you going to help recruit Billy Tubbs to the "Boot San Marcos" movement? Would be nice to have his support, as that'd be like receiving support from the conference itself... TIME TO BOOT THE BOBCATS!

McNeese has booster groups for everyone... McNeese Athletic Foundation - All Sports Cowboy Club - All Sports Petro-Chem Athletic Association - All Sports Quarterback Club - Football (Meets Mondays at noon during the season in the Cowboy Room) Tip-Off Club - Men's Basketball The Stampede- Women's Basketball Diamond Club - Baseball Dugout Club - Softball Striker Club - Soccer

One of the good things that came out of the Todd Graham "Era" at Rice was the Extra Point Club. During football season, they have Monday night dinners. Each Monday during the season they have them and each time, a different group of players come to dinner and get to mingle with the members -- whether it be the offensive linemen or members of the secondary, etc. Here's some more info: [Hidden Content] A few other ideas... Football 101. SHSU did this with the local radio station for women and they had coaches teach them the basics and then took them out to the football field. I know quite a few schools have done this including some of the big ones. Signing Day Event. Always a good deal where the head coach shows videos of the recruits. Just throwing out some things...

When was the last Lamar All-American selection? I know SHSU has had two in recent years, granted we did have an Academic All-American this year. Must admit, I do like how the AP handles that All-American with the conference's top players getting it, though it's always humorous to see fans who do not know about it really worked up over it!

Each conference's Player of the Year is named All-American HM if not higher... Looks good on the program nonetheless...

I will have to request it from the system office. This information comes to me from the Student Body President of SHSU who also doubles as the TSUS Student Advisory Board chair. In 2005, the following evaluation of the Texas State University System was put out by the SHSU Student Government in response to discussions made by the Texas State University System pertaining to a flagship institution. Lamar was never included in said discussions, never event brought up. The below document stated why SHSU was closer to joining that of second tier institutions in the state ahead of Texas State - San Marcos on the grand scale and was in a better situation to be a flagship. [Hidden Content] Not sure Lamar has made too many changes that would push them ahead of the two other TSUS institutions, especially considering your institution has been in a state of recovery from Rita. Your enrollment was in fact the largest growth percentage-wise last year in the state, but it was considered by many to be "recovery" instead of "growth"...

Woah! Calm down there, slugger... Would we have seen Georgia make their awesome run in the SEC tournament if they did not let anyone in? Seems North Carolina State had some great runs of their own in the ACC when they weren't as high a seed... The Southland Conference is about making $$$ for the conference. It may not work, but the SLC is doing what they can to make it work. I do not think it's going to last because the fans who are the closest to the event (SHSU) have turned their back on it before even getting it a chance. Then again, SHSU until this past year had not won a neutral or away postseason game since 1982, 1983... And what do you think about splitting up the men's and women's tournament? Would that necessarily be a good thing? I think a guy from SLU recommended that the women end their season a week earlier...may be worthwhile.

Not according to your Board of Regents. In fact, their tier system has SHSU over Texas State-San Marcos. Lamar is sitting in third. A lot of that has got to do with post-graduate studies, but SHSU has continued to increase academic standards and somehow at the same time is the fastest growing institution in the state. Must mean something... Golf, you have our number (though we do have the last women's title). Basketball, we have been the better team over Lamar over the last stretch of years. No Sweet 16, but when did Lamar do that as of late? Baseball, our program is turning the corner. We have the nice facility now ("The Don") and were regional finalists last year in the Ole Miss Region. Lots of young players this year, already have one win over the Cards. Our program is definitely on the upswing right now. We'll see how the next few years play out as our players grow... And yes, I did make an appearance on ESPN Gameday during the 2003 SLC championship game, supplying reports from court-side. I've also done game day work for Fox Sports Southwest, College Sports Television (CSTV) and CBS (during Houston Texans games)... By the way, I can put that I walked on the moon on my resume..doesn't mean it's true.

On the glass this year, he was at his finest. Had a few good games that were like the Bright we've seen before, but I do not think he was playing at his finest. His junior year may have been his best until that injury to his face (was it his nose? can't recall) slowed him down there at the end...

This was brought up on two boards already -- Curry (Davidson) was not on the mid-major list because he was a CollegeInsider All-American, which I guess supercedes this team...as a few other mid-majors (i.e Jason Thompson, Rider) are on the All-American and not Mid-Major team... [Hidden Content]