WOS95

i hope Lumberton has the same kind of year they had last year.  even if they dont make the playoffs this year i hope they keep building their program and have a successful season.  i also like coach credeur, he seems to be doing a very good job in Lumberton.

personally, i dont care where we get the players as long as we win a lot of games.  however, i like the idea of the walk on program.  over the years im sure there have been quite a few players from this area that could have played college ball from around here.  but never got the chance because they didn't have the money to leave home and the local university had no football program.  hopefully this walk on program will give some guys that have the talent the oppurtunity to play D-I college ball close to home. 

i have a friend who works in the IT dept. at Lamar.  he said that the university contracts the athletic site out to another party.  someone sends the info and the other party updates it.  they sent the football info weeks ago right after the coach was hired.  i think Lamar has done a good job so far promoting their football team, considering the fact we have no team yet. 

WOS95 -- just about every school does this nowadays, surprised you thought Lamar did it "in house"...

Lamar uses CSTV (check out their web site address, GameTracker and all that they use, it's clearly out there that they do this). Lots of schools either use CSTV or JumpTV (formerly XOS). The SLC uses JumpTV as does SHSU and some other schools. JumpTV is a head of the game as far as the web-streaming goes and the SLC uses it for SouthlandTV. CSTV has some good features as well, think JumpTV's sales staff moved quicker than tech side of things (see that awful Gamewatcher!)...

i really wasn't surprised Terror.  i was just defending Lamar because some posters on here were getting upset with LU for being slow putting the football tab on the athletic website. 

Now they need to add Cardinal Stadium to the Facilities and Directions page.

Once they update them i sure they will.

I bet UNLV is happy.

Took them long enough. Besides I won't be happy unless Lamar bowl or semi-bowl the stadium with FBS by 2013.

looks like ur going to be bitter for a while.   ;D

If you look around other forums all over the country you will notice a lot of people think Lamar is eye-ing FBS.

I am still feeling some doubt. I believe not bowling/semi-bowling the stadium will be the answer to the FBS/FCS question.

I don't think Lamar knows yet if they are going FBS or not but they are laying the groundwork for such a move.  There's still a lot of unknowns between now and 2011 so we'll just have to wait and see.  I would find it hard to believe that Lamar would not have plans to expand Cardinal Stadium.  I bet they have talked to Leo Daly on what it would take to expand the stadium, but there's a lot of other facility upgrades that must come first.

Fuel cost I'm sure is killing Tech as well as other nearby FBS schools. Now is the time for the Legendary Tubbs to work his magic

by creating a regional FBS conference.

Something like;

La Tech

ULL

UNT

Tulane

Tulsa

Rice

SMU

Ark st

USM

Texas st

UTSA

Lamar

Travel cost should be minimum.

i have to admit that would be a great conference to be in.  8)

Now they need to add Cardinal Stadium to the Facilities and Directions page.

Once they update them i sure they will.

I bet UNLV is happy.

Took them long enough. Besides I won't be happy unless Lamar bowl or semi-bowl the stadium with FBS by 2013.

looks like ur going to be bitter for a while.  ;D

i saw hussey play a couple of times on tv last year.  the kid was impressive. 

i have a friend who works in the IT dept. at Lamar.  he said that the university contracts the athletic site out to another party.  someone sends the info and the other party updates it.  they sent the football info weeks ago right after the coach was hired.  i think Lamar has done a good job so far promoting their football team, considering the fact we have no team yet. 

It wasn't dumb, it should be the goal. I wish they would think as you over at Lamar because playing

SFA will not put people in the stands, even if the game is on Fox.

so let me get this straight UNLV, Lamar getting pounded 70-0 by the Oklahoma Sooners is going to put people in the stands?  but perhaps a good competitive game with SFA that could be for a Div I FCS playoff spot will not? 

IMO, this is a win-win situation. Abadle turns pro after one season of college ball and Coach Tidwell can now tell recruits "come to Lamar and you can turn pro too". I bet it has been a long time since a women basketball at Lamar player turned pro at any level. I believe the last was the young lady from WO-S, last name Gant who played in the WNBA.

I wish her the best and maybe one day she'll be in the WNBA!

the lady from wos was Travessa Gant.  tamara was a very nice person, i had a class with her last semester and she was always very friendly.  i wish her all the best. 

it's good to see our local teams get some pre-season recognition.  8)

i just saw some pics of the new home side of cardinal stadium and the new athletic complex in the Cardinal Cadence magazine.  very impressive!  8)

they haven't even played a game yet.  as a matter of fact they don't even have a team yet.  :

If its not JV ball, then why seperate the them?     do they seperate any other sports?

Lamar was going to start out playing FCS-level football anyways so what's the big deal?  If you're still upset because a "big-name" isn't the coach or the stadium is going to be 30K, then go complain to the big donors for not donating more of their money.  Go call up R.C. Slocum or Jimmy Johnson and tell them how disappointed you are in them because they didn't want the coach at Lamar.  Football's back at Lamar and it's going to succeed, you should be happy.

Lamar will stay FCS. Lamar will stay in the SLC. UTSA is moving up, Texas st moving, SHSU will also move up, maybe SFA and NW st.

Everything about Lamars plans, so far, points to FCS. This is 1980's all over again. I was there, I know, were you?

that's ur problem UNLV, ur still stuck in the 1980's. 

UNLV, what you have been talking about has nothing to do with opinions. You stating that Lamar football will fail unless they hire a big name coach and build a big time stadium actually could be correct, but we will have to wait and see. Are you suggesting that Lamar not start up football at all because they cannot get a big name coach and a big time stadium? That would be like me giving up a great job because I couldn't afford the Mercedes to get me back and forth to work when the Toyota would have done the job.

Attention UNLV, you buy what you can afford to buy, it's called managing your money wisely. You must be one of those that is neck deep in credit card debt and is expecting someone to pull you out.

I just don't get why you can't understand simple math. Lamar has $5 to spend, not $500. Get it?

BTW, have you made your donation? I have.

It is still my opinion. Did they not teach you anything in College Station.

My credit rating is 735...

Lamar spend $5, Lamar gets $5 football.

My donation is years of support when my critics have not...

sorry unlv, but that is not going to pay for a new coach and a larger stadium.

i dont know about the BISD bond issue, but in the WOCC-ISD bond issue improvements for the athletic facilities come last.  maybe the BISD has to make repairs to the schools first, i don't know.  maybe someone knows more about the new BISD stadium?

im curious UNLV, what choice would've made sense to you?

Why do some people think Lamar would get "a major name coach" ?

My reasons why I can't understand some peoples thought process:

1. We are talking about a small school. Sure Lamar has the highest enrollment in a while, however a lot of the enrollment is online. We are so small people get lost looking for us in Beaumont. I've actually been to a high school where the population was larger than at Lamar.

2. Small budget. I know some people think that it shouldn't be about the money, however a person has to provide for his family and pay bills. My dad was a coach and I remember hearing people gripe about money. What they failed to realize was how much work goes into this "entertainment". These were normally the same people that would bash him (secretly) and then give him a hug when he did something great.

3. Resurrecting a dead sport.  Why would a proven coach come to SE Texas and work his tail off just to hopefully have a successful season 2-3 years down the line (and that's hoping he can get great recruits). And at the end of the day, he will be ran off because "he's too old or his system no longer works."Lamar's "claim to fame" is when they defeated BAYLOR in the early 1980's. Think of the advances that has happened in the world since then. Communism fail, The Red Sox fianlllllly won the World Series, heck even Michael Jackson was still cool.

4. Division 2 Football. Again, enough said.

There's probably a reason why none of the "good coaches" aren't wanting this job.

I am a Lamar Alum and I pay my dues. I am very proud of Lamar, but I am just more realistic. If the new coach is good enough for Tubbs, then he is good enough for me. Give the guy a chance. If the community really wants this to be successful, it doesn't matter who Lamar Hires. What has to happen is there has to be good recruiting classes (not just in setx either). A coach can only be as good as his players. He can encourage kids by camps, meeting the community, etc... However I feel it will be the same story as always in Beaumont. The good kids go to UT, A&M or LSU.  The rest go somewhere else. Lamar will get what is left over. Until Beaumont gets more "college centered" it will alwaysss be the same story.

i agree with your post. 

i was just wondering about a practice facility, i havent heard anything either.  sorry if my post started some questions.  i was just wondering about related costs to starting a football team. 

there's been a lot of posting about how much upgrades to the stadium will cost and how much a new coach will cost, but what about other expenses related to the football program.

new football uniforms

outdoor/indoor practice facility

assistant coach salaries

new band uniforms

new band instruments.

expanding the current lu staff to maintain the stadium

new cheerleader uniforms

the only hype im hearing about lamar's football program is from some of the poster's on this board.  i think the university is handling everything in an appropriate manner.  ive said it before, i trust that billy tubbs and dr. simmons  know what they are doing in getting this football team back on the field.  if they feel that woodard is a good hire, then i think we should give him a chance

I like this guy. Go fast and far in as little time possible.

"A big, fancy fieldhouse is not as important as a nice, on-campus place to play."

Lamar must bowl the stadium.

Here's a picture of FAU's proposed new 30K $62 million stadium:

I'm ready to see the artist renditions for Cardinal Stadium.  There's no reason why Lamar can't have both a big, fancy fieldhouse and a nice, on-campus stadium for around $22 million.  I don't think Lamar will be bowling the stadium now, but they must expand it to 25 or 30K soon.

Coach if FAU had picked you to design the stadium, it would look like High Island high school stadium.

$62 million for this, Lamar is 1/3rd there. Now we need 10 donors to give $4 million or 20 to give $2 million or 40 to give $1 million then Lamar could have FAU

stadium. Lamar would get endless fan support with this stadium.

unlv, if you are referring to the 100 million dollar campaign for LU, that 100 million is not for a football stadium only.  and second u cant get me to believe that just because we have a nice stadium people will support the team.  maybe at first, but once the new wears off, then what?  i still believe the key to long term success is WIN!!! WIN!!! WIN!!!

I don't think it'll be Stump. A high school coach restarts Lamar's football would be a joke here and all

over the country. Stump will either be the assistant head coach to Jimmy or OC.

what Jimmy r u talking about?  jimmy johnson, who coach the Miami Hurricanes, and the 1993-1994 World Champion Dallas Cowboys?  u r kidding, right?

Do you all think stump has the job wrapped up? Here is my top ten list for he won't get it:

10. He's a high school coach

9. He's not the most qualified candidate

8. What has he really done lately?

7. He's a high school coach

6. Can he mix with the high level donors as well as the regular joe schmoes? i'm not so sure he can.

5. He wouldn't be able to bring in a top notch staff underneath him

4. his name won't attract the big dollars we need.

3. he's a high school coach

2. we need someone who has already infiltrated the college ranks and has connections and I don't mean ten years in the past.

1. HE'S  A HIGH SCHOOL COACH!!

There must be someone else??

that's only 6, u said the same one 4 times.  ;D

:'(

i would like to have a big stadium too, but who is going to pay for it?  and as far as SETX supporting big time football, for arguments sake, suppose we do join a conference with teams like U of H, Baylor and UNT.  and just suppose we are the celler dweller every year in that conference, i want to see how long those aluminum end zone seats stay filled, much less the rest of the 17,000 seats.  then where would we go from there?  i trust that Dr. Simmons and Billy Tubbs know what their doing.  if they stay FCS i will be happy, if they go FBS i will be happy too.