H-D BOBCAT 55

Hey 55. I typed in HD All-State lineman. I think I found a video of you pass blocking.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gNcsWkocknU

Why are there classifications? Newton has a great program. Newton is not winning the state championship every year. Do you think they would do better in a higher classification? Do you think they would not do better in a lower classification? That is your argument, correct?

If you go look at the state champions the last few years you will see most of them are at the top end population wise. more students = more athletes

Ok, then why do we see teams drop a classification each year and all of a sudden contend for a championship? This argument is ridiculous. 185 lb lineman do not work as good as 265 lb lineman. It is better to have 100 kids at practice than 30 kids at practice. It is better to have 30 kids on the sideline than 15 kids on the sideline. Kids that play one way play at a higher pace than kids who play both ways. This is no secret.

Yeah I remember him being a really good player.  Didn't translate into wins over HD, but a good player none the less! haha ;)

Winters was the last D-1 player from HD...if I'm not mistaken him and Nunan played at SFA together.

I had a conversation with HD 55 over the weekend, and we talked about kids getting recognized at small schools. We agree that with recruiting services, youtube, hudl and all the other social media outlets available that if a kid can play, a kid will usually get noticed. That's not always the case though. I can assure you that a kid at a 2A school that goes deep in the playoffs will probably get more looks than a kid on a 2-8 4A team (unless that school is on a down year and known for producing next level talent). With that being said, a kid that is a dominant player at a good 4A school will get many more looks than a kid on a good 2A school. It's simple and I don't think anyone would disagree with this.
 
The point I made to HD 55 was a personal example of my recruiting when I was in school. After a very successful junior year, I had the opportunity to move to a larger school to get more recognition but I wanted to stay and battle with my schoolmates who'd I'd grown up with. I was an all-state selection as a senior on an HD team that went 2-8 and didn't sniff the playoffs. I got one DI offer (Air Force) and three DII offers along with a handful of DIII and NAIA schools. I signed my letter of intent with (Southwest) Texas State and was committed to the Bobcats. I quit the basketball team in hopes of jumping back on the radar of another DI team before national signing day. It didn't happen. Three days before national signing day I broke my foot in three places playing winter baseball. (which I was asked not to do by SWT coaching staff). I called my recruiter and informed him of the injury and that I'd been playing baseball. He passed it on and the next day they called and informed me that they were no longer extening an offer of full athletic scholarship. They told me that I was a gamble and a roll of the dice already because of the talent level they had seen me play against. I said hey, I'm 230lbs and run a 4.58 and make straight A's. If I was Emmitt Smith I don't think ya'll would be telling me this. He laughed and said "Don't kid yourself, you're not Emmitt Smith!" I was devastated and decided not to go to SWT. I called Coach Pierce at SFA in Nacogdoches and they had already given all their available scholarships away as well. They gave me their word that I'd be an invited walk-on and they had full rides freeing up in the spring and that I could get on scholarship then and that they'd do what they could to help me out with academic scholarships and aid to pay for my fall semester. (some academic scholarships are available for student athletes only). A torn ACL and poor work ethic and a bad attitude ended it all anyway. I never got right mentally to prepare myself for the playing on the next level after my scholarship offer was rescended.
 
The whole point of that long story, was that I still regret the fact at times that I did not move to a larger school to increase my visibility and opportunities. I played in two all-star games that let me know that I could compete with 4A/5A kids, but I didn't make the call, despite the fact that my parents supported it if I wanted to transfer. Maybe I would have got lost in the shuffle and never played at a high level. I may have been exposed for being too short or too slow or a ton of other things. Or I could have excelled against higher competition and secured DI offers. Who knows. I know if I could do it all over again, knowing that we went 2-8 and the mistakes I made afterwards, I would have transfered in a heartbeat. Granted that was a different time and place without as many opportunites for exposure as kids have today, but I promise that college coaches think about level of competition when viewing game film. If the big kid from Hardin is dominating a 5'9" 180lb defensive end from Huntington, that's not quite as impressive as dominating a 6'3" 245lb defensive end from North Shore. Sometimes that's the difference between getting a ride to Lamar as opposed to LSU, and sometimes it's the difference between getting a ride from Lamar or no ride at all.
 
I'm a die hard Hull-Daisetta Bobcat. My son is not even 2 years old, so who knows if he'll even play football. I will support him in whatever direction he chooses to go. But if he is a talented prospect and appears to have next level talent, by his sophomore year he will be playing for a large school that gets the best out of its kids and sends kids to the next level regularly. Now if he's not there yet or not going to get there, then he can go to school wherever he's grown up and comfortable with. Nothing like the small school experience and maybe going to an HD is his best chance of being on the field and getting to play. If that's the case, he'll be at HD or Hardin, or Warren or the likes, loving high school football like most of us on here have.

Hey i started the song thing lol

I agree. I just meant that not all kids go to college, heck most from our area do not. Most hard working blue collar parents can't afford it, thats when a scholarship can help the kids that normally would not get to go.

I'm aware of the recruiting companies out there. I have recently signed my 8th grader up. They build a great profile for each kid and will send out highlights to 100 colleges of our choice a year. Although, I know these college Coaches do look at the level of competion on these highlight tapes. My son is 6'2 265lb DT/OT in 8th grade at HD. My son attended the Texas Longhorn lineman camp last summer and will be attending the LSU and Texas lineman camps this coming summer.

CD, a parent can send a video highlight film to any college in the country within minutes. A good coach will also be sending out video left and right if they think they have a kid with the potential to play at the next level. Perhaps it was necessary to uproot 15-20 years ago but I no longer think it's necessary. Your son will be fine at HD as long as you do your part with help from his coach along the way.

HD should not be used in the same sentence with Huntington and Hardin regarding wins lol. Be smart... HD has won 63% of its games all time, Huntington and Hardin 30%...

HD should not be used in the same sentence with Huntington and Hardin regarding wins lol. Be smart... HD has won 63% of its games all time, Huntington and Hardin 30%...

I agree 55. Should be a good one to see. Both fighting for respect. I got Huntington all the way, but don't see the need in downing another school in the process.

Huntington is notorious for having a historically horrific football program. Several decades of being a doormat with like 1-2 win seasons. Hardin has a shot, trust me...

That was your one chance Fancy....and you let me down ;)

And I do think Hardin will have a very good offensive line next year. Just not sure about the rest of the weapons on offense, and speed on defense. The Hornets are getting better, I just don't see them pulling off a playoff appearence with having to play Kville, Kountze, East Chambers, and Buna. Throw in Anahauc and Woodville who are always tough and an improving Warren team, and that makes for a tough route to the playoffs. Just because Newton is gone doesnt' mean a whole lot. Huntington will be improved over last year and New Waverly has to be better than the terrible squad they fielded last season. I see Hardin going 3-7 honestly with the best case scenario being 5-5.
 
Should be wins:
Legacy, New Waverly
 
Will be the favorite:
Huntington, Warren
 
A chance at winning but underdog:
Anahuac, Woodville
 
Most likely losses:
Kountze, KVille, Buna, EC

Based on those scores, embarrassed is a good description, Buddy. Losing that bad to lowly HD. Must've been hard on you.

Apparently you needed the insight since you said Hardin has an NFL sized line. Glad to help.

NFL lineman weigh more than 300? Thanks for the insight. I change my mind again, Hardin will only make it to the semi-finals.

Hardin's smallest lineman weighs about 205lbs. They have three lineman at 260 or above. I'm pretty sure the average NFL lineman is over 300. Your sarcasm makes you look silly.

I had no idea that they have an NFL sized line. I changed my mind, they will win the state championship.

He would need to put on some weight to play at the next level as a lineman. He has a good work ethic so its certainly possible.

I never stated that Hardin would set the world on fire come fall. Offensively, they will run a more balanced attack. Their smallest o-lineman is 6'5" and weighs 205. The next smallest is 6'7" and weighs 260. He has been offered a full ride to Lamar University. The biggest lineman is 6'8" and weighs 330. He was unable to play last year due to injury. I'm not on here to bash coaches or programs but simply to support the Hardin Hornets.

LMAO I'm dying 😂😂