Englebert

What proof do you have that this is fake? It might be, I don't know. But you have made so many deceitful assertions on this board that your credibility is absolute zero. Please back up your claim.

It was 20 years ago, and he was single with no kids at the time. I don't know the guy. We were socializing at a wedding in which we had mutual friends. I haven't seen him since. He did say that his parents divorced when he was around 10, 11 years old or something (I can't remember exactly, just remember it was pre-adolescence.) He mentioned that some of his friends parents had been divorced. It seems he was still struggling with the idea of divorce and how hard it was on him personally. I don't know. I do know that racism/prejudicism was not his motive for making the comment. So my armchair psychological analysis based on a ten minute conversation was that he was deeply hurt due to his parents divorce and he was vowing not to put his kids through the same thing by naively thinking he was going to hand-pick a wife based on his strict qualifications. I probably would have forgotten the whole conversation except for me coming to the realization that I almost incorrectly branded someone a racist. That was an epiphany for me as an example to not judge too quick.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. I'm not agreeing with the guy. I often use this story as an example of how labelling someone as racist is often just a misunderstanding/misinterpretation of someone's views.

The guy I pointed to didn't think interracial marriage was wrong...so you are right. I misinterpreted your statement to mean "wrong" in the sense as "disgusting" and not to be encouraged or something to which one would ever involve themselves with. And the guy was from Michigan. Go figure.

I'll have to disagree with you on this point. True story: I was talking with an acquaintance a while back, and he made the statement, "I would never marry a black girl". So I asked him why. He said that he has seen first hand what divorce can do to the kids in a family. He continued by saying that he knows marriage can be awfully hard, and the couple must work every day to keep their marriage working. He felt that an interracial marriage would have to endure too much outside strife, especially from close friends and relatives...to the point of making the marriage unworkable and ending in a divorce...which he would never put his kids through. You might disagree with his line of thinking, but it definitely does not contain any shred of racism on his part.

Did you seriously just type this? The Liberals have tried for 30+ years to pass Socialized healthcare legislation. They finally get to 2008 where they have a majority in the House and Senate and occupy the White House. So for 30+ years, and two years of occupying the Legislative and Executive branches, they had the opportunity to have a plan ready to go. And if memory serves me, Nancy Pelosi famously said "We have to pass it to see what's in it". And you actually want to question the Republicans who have offered and passed 30+ bills in the last 7 years to replace and/or help fix the Obamacare disaster. You are seriously out of touch and seem to be relying on Left wing nutjob media sources for your uninformed opinion. One glance at FoxNews would have prevented such an asinine statement. As far as your second line. The reason college tuition has risen to the unaffordability that it is today is because of government "help". Once the government starting funding and making money available for anyone to attend college, the price skyrocketed. Why? Because the colleges knew the government was the source of funding, so they were free to unleash astronomical raises in tuition. Socialism at it's finest...and quite embarrassing that these bastions of morality college big-wigs would do their best to emulate Wall Street execs by ripping off the American taxpayer. This would not have happened in a less "compassionate" society. More people could afford to attend college if Capitalism would have been allowed to continue working without Socialist interference.

Or he could possibly be banking on the fact that he can setup a "charitable" foundation to be used as a personal slush fund. He can use his position to solicit billions of dollars through pay for play, and without fear of prosecution. But one would have to be an incredible scumbag not worthy of oxygen to dream up a pathetic scheme like that. So yeah, I think he is doing it for love of country.

Hey Remmus, do you see what we have to put up with? You are a newbie and I'm not requesting a response on your part, just want to draw attention to the fact that this is not a forum in which redneck, bible-thumping, minority-hating, homophobic, misogynistic klansmen are suppressing the right for anyone to speak out. This forum welcomes all, no matter how many functioning brain cells one might have. Sorry to directly reference your name in the context of this post, but just wanted to shed light on an example of the two-way street that many on the Left seem to ignore. Since you are the only current member on the Left speaking up, I regrettably couldn't think of another user to call upon. From past experience I predict Kountzer will not be a contributing member to the various topics on this forum, so I feel we are still down to just you representing the Left. This post is in proximity to something that nappyroots, new tobie, Dick Vitale, Big Girl, or ECO might post.

No, you are wrong. They make outrageous claims which they can't/won't back up, then refuse to answer when called out, then accuse everyone on the board of being ignorant and racist. I want Left representatives on this board, but would rather do without than "debate" with such childishness.

No coincidence. Remmus' spelling, grammar, and punctuation are far superior to either, or nappyroots. But it is weird that we seem to have only one, sometimes two people from the Left on here at a time.

I'm confident that Remmus' mistake was accidental though.

No, Perry was thinking about all of Texas' families which is why he did everything in his power not to get involved in the Obamacare debacle. Way too many strings attached to that Socialist program and the eminence of dependency on the Federal Government. Kudos to Perry on this one.

When they can get it. Can you name some of the many, many world-class physicians, new drugs, innovative surgical procedures, and state-of-the-art prosthetics and machines that have emanated from these countries? Me neither.

Guaranteed healthcare means the government is paying for you therefore is able to dictate every facet of your life, including what you can eat and drink. And socialized medicine kills the entrepreneurship and innoviations in the profession. Government will try to control costs, therefore doctors will be paid less and less, leading to the best and brightest not entering into the profession. There is a reason the U.S. healthcare system is the greatest in the world. I'm perplexed as to why some want to change that. And once you read Sowell's writings and some others I think you will become suspicious of the motives behind social welfare programs also, especially Socialized healthcare.

I have Bing and Google so I'm an expert on anything you want to discuss. I'm not a scholar on any other country, but practically every country just by nature is going to have it's fair share of dirt. Keeping a scorecard of who is worse would fall to the "eye of the beholder" and a fool's errand. That's why I'm not infatuated with past wrongs but contemplate more on where we are headed. (This does not mean we should not learn from our past mistakes though.) I am perplexed at your last statement (in which I whole-heartedly agree). Doesn't it seem semi-paradoxical for you to always be suspicious of our government but call for bigger and bigger government?

Can you name a country that has less dirt in it's past that you hold in high regard? Do you believe the American citizens try to correct the wrongs of our past less than citizens of other countries? Did the Americans citizens not work extremely hard to correct the wrongs of recent history in the face of overwhelming odds due to the biased Liberal Media and Political establishment machine? (I had to throw this one in there. LOL)

That's why I touted the "theory" of social welfares programs being perpetuated to control Blacks. The belief from your post (in bold) is an integral of that theory, and is discussed at length in many "obscure" publications.

Once you read Sowell's work you will/should have a very hard time maintaining your socially Liberal stance. And please don't stop with him. There are many more authors espousing the same ideas from many different viewpoints. These works are tough to find due to their "unpopularity" (meaning they are a direct assault on the Liberal viewpoint and thus unworthy of publication and dissemination).

Yes he is to many on the Left.

I know, it was more of a retort to Remmus' statement and meant to be rhetorical. After all, many on the Left are pissed that Trump is "creating policy" before he is ever in office, but then want Trump to weigh in on situations such as this. If they scream Obama is still the President, then they should be calling for Obama and not Trump to take the leadership role.

Articles, books and volumes have been written on this. Yes, the White liberals are to blame for creating the welfare system that has shackled Blacks (and the poor of all ethnic groups) to the government teet. This has been known for years. But the Liberal media, Black leaders and Liberal social redistribution advocates share as much or probably more of the blame for the continual perpetuation of these horrendous policies. Thus my hatred for Liberals and social welfare programs. The evidence of the ill effects of these programs is abundant and irrefutable, but these people have done nothing but beg for more and more of the same policies that is the very essence of the destruction of the Black family (and the poor). Many people hold the theory that this welfare system was created and perpetuated as a way to control the Black population. I personally believe that the system was created with good intentions, but is being perpetuated by a combination of good intentions and evil elitist. Many think throwing more and more money at the situation is helping while many others know and condone the ill effects. When Obama was elected eight years ago I was somewhat optimistic that he would address this issue and work to change it. He did not. So he is either too stupid/naïve to recognize a documented catastrophe or he is part of the conspiracy. After seeing his views on the Man-Made Global Warming fallacy, I'm fairly certain the case is the latter.

That was an intelligent line by Trump.

What has the current President said about this?

Ninja cop?

I've never met a Liberal that wasn't filled with hate. I've met a bunch of Democrats that are good honest people that just disagree with the extent of the government's role in our lives. There is a huge disparity between Liberals and Democrats. All Liberals are Democrats but want to constantly push the party further Left towards Socialism. Not all Democrats are Liberals. I thought we went through this before.