oldage football

the only thing that changes at WOS is the roster - the football and the grit stay constant

the only thing that changes at WOS is the roster - the football and the grit stay constant

It just went official, he is gone.  He accepted the Killeen Shoemaker job...

As adults you have to have more in life than being involved in high school sports. Going to the game and cheering is one thing but going and acting a complete ass is another. There is nothing wrong with cheering for your school but when you Sit on the visitors side and talk smack like your 15 it's a shame. I go to many Silsbee games and its always the same 3 or 4 people doing the bull $#%=÷. Sit down cheer for your school and leave others alone. It is a kids game. Let the kids be kids. You paid $3 to come in and cheer. Some people I see that all they have is high school sports. They live and die with the high school team and your like 40 gets old. Embarrassing! 

I don't think Silsbee will have anyone else suspended besides what has taken place. The good thing is Silsbee has 2 pgs who can really play. Bush is a fantastic player who I think will step up now. Newton is a key defender as well as Tyler. #Silsbeetostate

we hear this all the time about other programs suffer at west orange - in the last 10 years - WOS has been to Austin in Basketball - State finals in Baseball - three state championships in track - and two titles in football- yeah i guess yall right - soccer seems to be suffering

Coach Witherspoon in Jasper once won several state titles in track. They worked out on a dirt trail he mark off -- set several national and state records during the day - Jasper built a new all weather track and hasn't won a state title since-- takes more than a pretty kitchen to make a good meal

if you can honestly justify no one from wos offensively deserved to be on that list -- so be it - Oh well what can we do !!!

Coach Witherspoon in Jasper once won several state titles in track. They worked out on a dirt trail he mark off -- set several national and state records during the day - Jasper built a new all weather track and hasn't won a state title since-- takes more than a pretty kitchen to make a good meal

Coach Witherspoon in Jasper once won several state titles in track. They worked out on a dirt trail he mark off -- set several national and state records during the day - Jasper built a new all weather track and hasn't won a state title since-- takes more than a pretty kitchen to make a good meal

May not have state championship facilities, but they definitely have the TROPHIES and the cats to win them.

now if you want to see state championship facilities really all you got to do is come on over and visit WOS or Newton and we'll take you on a walk about and let you see what we got!!!

some of these playoff runs mess up these coaches deer seasons.

Not in favor of merit pay of any form for teachers or for coaches.  Am in favor of raising their salaries instead so it counts toward their retirement.  If a coach is doing a good job, give him a raise.  It is that simple.  Same thing is true of a teacher.   

Let's make sure they all make the same amount of money and have the same playbooks while we are at it.  *sarcasm* 
These guys put in unreal hours.  Most districts have stipends up to a healthy level for the extracduties.  The idea of a bonus is not the best idea.  If they do good, give them a raise.
As far as teaching classes are concerned, if you want the best coaches you better be ready to compete for them, which means not only pay, but allowing coordinators to have some favorable teaching loads--or no load at all.
Texas high school football is one of the very few things that actually generate substantial income for some districts outside of the normal funding.  This will not happen in many places if you aren't winning.  So a few perks are in order to keep the program healthy.
 
 

3 ????? dang I teach 6

3 ????? dang I teach 6

I'm still enjoying the victory last night. Honestly haven't asked but I'll find out later. Sitting here trying to make myself believe all of this is real. When these boys were very young we knew they were special. As they got to be 9, 10, and 11 the reality of what we thought was right before our eyes. We said back then that they had 2 State Championships in them. Now we've lost a few of those boys. A couple of them moved to Beaumont and actually one is visiting Yale this weekend to play football. The pride and joy that these boys have given me and a lot of other people is just amazing. I didn't mean to go on a rant about the boys but it's just what's on my mind right now. Can you even imagine? Three State appearance in a row. Not to mention a State appearance in baseball. Thanks for the ride fellas!!!!

KEYS TO LONG TERM-SUSTAINED SUCCESS - Repeated deep playoff runs and state championships
1. Good Coaching, that stays for an extended period of time and/or continues the same philosophy by hiring from within the program.
2. Disciplined players with a strong work ethic
3. A winning tradition that the players feel a responsibility to uphold
4. Unselfish players
5. Very good athletes
6. Supportive parents that allow the coaches to coach and defers to them as to how to discipline their kids
7. A vocal, knowledgeable fan base and community that supports the program financially and with attendance at games
8. An Administration that supports the program

when the mood is right these guys argue bout anything lol
 

numbers have always been confusing to me

in 2014 newton kicked our butt - and we both ended up play in Jerrys world -- dont hang your hat on that classification stuff

Keys to Success:
1.  Tradition? Hardly.  It helps for a team to have some, but not if the tradition includes losing.   Change to "Winning Tradition"
2.  Coaching Continuity?  Possibly..  But again... not if there is no success.  If your community/players NEVER or RARELY have to
     endure a change in coaching philosophy it is a big advantage.  There are no short learning curves in those programs. 
     One School...ahem....has 30+ years of coaching philosophy. 
3.  Talented Athletes?  No argument there.  A must, though at the High School Level, one truly gifted athlete gets you a big head start.
      Throw in 2, 3, 4, 5 at one time.  Good lord.  
4.  Community Support?  It helps tremendously.  No athlete can resist the roar of the crowd.  Its intoxicating.
     I personally believe that when talented athletes, not the gifted ones, stay in their community.
     Then encourage acceptance of a philosophy that was there before them, with them and will be there after them, then there can
     be no confusion of what is expected from them.   Success.  
 
Note:  There has to be multiple examples of success.   Championship trophies, collegiate players, professional players, etc.
           Those success stories have to continue to be part of the community to cement the winning philosophy.
 
For our area, West Orange-Stark got it right.  Lucky? Maybe, all winning traditions need a little luck here and there.
It doesn't matter.  That program has found what works for their community.  Why change it....
 
I love when WOS comes to town. It brings out the best in our athletes.    Enjoy their brand of football. 
The last three years of WOS football is kinda like the Greek Spartans of old. 
You can talk noise, no problem, but you'll probably end up at the bottom of a deep hole or piled up next to the others.
 
I'm done. Respect.
#TigerNation

I'm not sure how comparable Kennedale and Navarro are athletically.  I've only seen Navarro highlights and highlights do not tell the tale.  However, I did watch the WOS vs Kennedale game in person.  Many of my friends could not go so we talked on the phone at halftime.  WOS was shutting Kennedale out but I told them it would not end in a shutout.  That this was a dang good team.
Both are in their respective divisions semifinal....if Navarro is better than Kennedale, then this will indeed be a dogfight.  Kennedale has a monster at LB/DE that I believe is going to Ohio State.  Against him and that D, WOS still put up 45.
Since this is a message board of opinions.....I think the heavier burden lies on the Navarro defense.  If they contain/slow down the WOS offense, then it allows them to keep running.  If WOS imposes their will offensively, then it will be a track meet that Navarro can't keep pace with.

numbers have always been confusing to me