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1 hour ago, JimAdler said:
central heights tournament
Not there, but I did hear Tatum beat Hardin. Tatum is usually pretty good and a program that has been on the rise for a couple of years. However, they did lose to Nederland last year which is historically no competition for Hardin. Further evidence this team (Hardin) is a far cry from what it has been for the last 24 years.
Score was Tatum 25-14, 25-11
Was also told Hardin lost to Lorena today, but that was expected.
When was the last time Hardin started the season 0-3 ? You guessed it........never in volleyball
Just FYI…Hardin has never played Nederland.
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1 hour ago, JimAdler said:
i'm sure espn will be there as this is breaking news for the community of hardin, coach clark
The point I was making is that there won’t be rumors or “I heard this” threads started here when she does retire.
Stop with the exaggeration and the over the top stuff, like you saying Regina didn’t have to work for a living. That’s pretty far from the truth. -
I see that some of y’all like to stir the pot
I work with Regina and she has shown up to summer workouts for the girls program.
Also, someone on here is acting like they really know Regina and her family as they put details that seem to suggest that. Never mind that a detail or two are completely wrong.
Trust me, when Regina does retire, everyone will know.
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2 hours ago, JimAdler said:
He "looks" the position is a great description. Anyone know where he's going to school next year?
I have heard Rusk may possibly be in the conversation, but beyond that, I don't know.
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Looking at that information, it's interesting to to see 2 former MLB players as assistant coaches. Mark Petkovsek and Andy Pettite (for Second Baptist). Both were pitchers in the Show.
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49 minutes ago, purpleeagle said:
We played Anahuac opening game last year and he was not a 140 lb. QB. Program listed him at 6’1” Fr. 187 lbs.
I never said he was a 140 lb QB. He might have been 140-150 (maybe pushing 160) in 8th grade but he's got the frame to be a good sized QB. Though even as a freshman, 187 lbs might be stretching it. Don't you know football game programs make their players bigger & heavier? Even the NCAA teams do it...
He's definitely closer to 187 now that he would have been when he left Hardin.
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1 hour ago, JimAdler said:
The biggest difference I saw in Brady was that when the season started, he was a skinny incoming 9th grader, all of 140 lbs at 6'0.
I can't tell you what his height and weight is today, but I saw him two weeks ago at a baseball game and he's not the same looking kid. I didn't get close enough to him to tell exactly how tall he was, but he was taller than me and I am 6'2
I saw him recently too and he's got to be at the very least 6'1"-6'2" and about 170lbs or more. He looked as heavy as I am and I'm 5'9, 180. If he keeps growing, I can see him being 6"3-4" and 190-200. He will be a sophomore for Nederland.
I got to know Brady at Hardin and he is a good kid who is just athletic as all get out. He knows what he can do and maximizes his ability. He just soaks in football and it's thanks to his dad. Ned was a pretty good QB back in his day.
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18 hours ago, pdawg119 said:
Orangefield vs Danbury
6pm Thursday, Channelview HS
Hardin vs Boling
6:30pm Thursday, CE King HS
Hardin vs Boling time has moved up to 6 pm.
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I know next to nothing about Orangefield football but I'm taking Anahuac by 14 because I saw them play Hardin.
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3 minutes ago, oldschool2 said:
In all honesty, I couldn't care less what Hardin does or how they do it. There's no axe to grind here... I'm simply offering an opinion as to how the school can make strides towards being more competitive. You mention the word consistency.. there is no bigger advocate for consistency in a head coach than me. That's evident in my responses to any thread on this site about any school. There's no doubt that being consistent will be a good first step. It seems to me, though, that the hiring of a very qualified, seasoned coach would take a little precedence considering that a usual alternative would be a young guy looking to eventually (probably sooner rather than later) bounce into a more favorable job. That is my thoughts on ANY school doing this very thing. Kountze and anybody else. My only beef with any school would be pretending to want what's best for a head coach of any sport only to limit success for unlimited reasons. Support, money, consistency, fan support (lack thereof), or anything. I'm not the one that said the former coach didn't get the support he wanted so he left. I heard some similar rumblings but don't know. If Hardin has any history of mismanaging athletic funds, that's a completely different issue. I'll argue that's not the case for MOST of the programs with an AD/HFC. And maybe you aren't trying to justify it but saying that it's starting to be common just because you gave 3 area examples just isn't true.
Know what... go ahead, Hardin. Do Hardin. Keep changing coaches every 2-4 years and wonder why the attempt at being consistent failed. I'll pass on going to the website and take your word for it. Again, I couldn't care less. I'll forever defend any coaching staff that's only as good as the limited potential they're dealt and sleep just fine.
To be fair, I never said that it was Hardin mismanaging funds…just that it’s happened.
Now this statement is more like what should be said, instead of the sarcastic comments you were saying in your other posts. Being civil is the way to go.
Yes, Hardin has not had great luck with head coaches lately and I agree that it could be a springboard job to a better job for a young coach right now unless that coach has success for the first couple years then maybe it is parlay into a consistent role for Hardin (see Haynes).
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6 minutes ago, TXHORN_ET said:
So if the Ad/Head Fb Coach is taking more than an equal share of the budget to spend on football and not other sports, isn’t that a violation of Title IX?
Yep.
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19 minutes ago, oldschool2 said:
But it's not starting to trickle down. It almost seems like you're trying to justify the fact that Hardin/Kountze are doing this. Just in case any experienced football coach isn't interested due to their horrendous football tradition.. you guys are scaring the rest away with not allowing for the AD title. Well done... DESPITE all that, they end up with a good coach with a talented son and still let them squeak away. LOL!
You gave 3 examples of non 5A/6A schools in the pretty large coverage area. I can tell you that it's not common in the rest of the state either... nor should it be. I think it's fair to say that the duties should be split between men's and women's.. but any school 4A and smaller should have the Head Football Coach as the AD.. as football is the majority money maker/spender within athletics.
And that in turn can lead to major abuses in how the athletics money is being spent. I can tell you that has absolutely happened. The HFC/AD can take more than their equal share to spend on football and not other sports. He would then justify it with what you just said, "football is the majority moneymaker/spender within athletics." With a separate AD, that doesn't happen.
By the way, you stated that "I already know there aren't any others in SeTx", I countered with Splendora which is SETX. I didn't know I had to put a whole dang list. I'm sorry 3 isn't enough for you.
It sounds like you have an axe to grind against Hardin. I was not trying to "justify the fact" as you put it about the separate AD and HFC positions. Matter of fact, since you bring up justification, if you go to the Hardin ISD page, and click on "Athletics", then "Football", you will see a subheading of "Hardin Hornets Coaching History."
If you read that, then you will see that with the exception of Haynes, the majority of coaches lasted 2-4 years and that is a lot of turnover at the AD/HFC position. As I said before, the separation of AD & HFC was to create a sense of consistency in the athletic program as a whole. If you don't like it, tough. Go whine somewhere else about how "Hardin is going to scare away coaches" because you're not going to convert me.
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3 hours ago, oldschool2 said:
I have no doubt that details are being left out. However, the one detail that rings true was mentioned. HE LEFT.. and it could've been prevented. Or, at least.. further steps could've been tried to prevent it. Money, support, assistants, whatever.. he left for a reason and while that reason may not be known by everyone.. there's still a reason that he left a 3A school as a head football coach to go to a 3A school in the same district. His son was going to be the starting quarterback regardless. I know that Anahuac has a better supporting team but there's gotta be something else. Didn't I read that his son led their 8th grade team to the district championship? I know a lot changes between JH and Varsity but he still won.
You are really going to use two of the worst football programs in all of SeTx as the examples of "schools gravitating away from the HFC/AD combination"? Other than these two football powerhouses, would you mind giving me some examples of some schools 4A and down that are practicing this? I already know there aren't any others is SeTx.. let's go statewide.
I don't know about statewide but in SETX, Splendora has a separate AD and HFC. They are 4A.
I should have stated that it's more common in the larger districts (5A/6A) but the idea is trickling down to the lower ranks.
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38 minutes ago, 2wedge said:
However you want to frame it, he asked for certain assistants and was told no. Whether it was no because they didn't want to hire, or whether they said no because those he was trying to bring in weren't "math" teachers or whatever. Bottom line, if Hardin was committed to building the football program, they'd do whatever they had to do to keep quality coaches and players in the program, and they don't/didn't.
As far as the AD being someone who has been around there for a while and he carries the title for stability, if the issue was the AD changing every 3-4 years because the football coach would leave, now you can bet on losing a football coach every 1-2 years without that AD title to make him want to stay around. And for the record, Hardin would be able to keep an AD/HFC more than 3-4 years if they'd leave him alone and let him do his job. Give him what he needs, support the program, and tell your board members to stay out his personnel decisions, and they might actually keep one for a while.
Sure, but in case you haven't noticed, schools these days are gravitating away from the HFC/AD combination and separating it between two people. The days of HFC/AD are quickly fading into the past. I know Kountze's AD is not the HFC so Hardin is not alone in the area when it comes to that.
Like I said, there's a bit more to the story.
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45 minutes ago, oldschool2 said:
Are you aware of the term District of Innovation? I read that most schools in the state took on that role which includes certain perks such as schedule flexibility and allowing certified teachers to teach in fields they aren't certified in. I bet that Hardin has those flexibilities. I also know that in certain circumstances smaller schools hire uncertified (yet degreed) people to teach while they are completing or even working on a certification.
There is no set rules as to what exactly a coach HAS to teach.. and just because a coach is teaching something one year doesn't mean the teaching field can't change the next. Even for that exact coach. It sounds to me that Hardin either lacked creativity or refused to be creative... because I have friends/family in the coaching profession and was told that Barrier wanted to hire specific people to coach yet was told he couldn't. I'm not usually one to go off of just the word of a few but the coaching world usually holds pretty true to what I hear. In my experience anyway. So if that is evenly partially true.. he did the exact right thing by abandoning ship.
I'm very aware of all what you just stated. However, in a lot of cases, a teacher that is not certified to teach a specific field can only teach one class in that field because it can cause problems to the district if the uncertified teacher was to teach more than that one class.
There's more reasons here than what I am willing to say, but while it is true that usually the whispers on the coaching grapevine are true, it's also true that not all the information is out there to be shared. So the story can be partially true but a lot is left out.
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4 hours ago, oldschool2 said:
That’s of less and less importance than people think. There are ways around that.. or there would be more jobs than there are. Schools will hire a teacher that may not fit a field before leaving it open.
Yes, I agree with you to a point. This is true for elective classes. Not so much when it’s a core class like math (not just everyone can teach math) or a specific field like special education. There were only so many teaching field available for a coach.
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11 minutes ago, oldschool2 said:
Just out of curiosity.. what criteria are you talking about? Or do you know?
The ordinary stuff like teaching fields, etc.
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1 hour ago, JimAdler said:
Be careful now, 2wedge is related to the Barriers.
I'm not trying to stir anything up but some of the info is just not correct. For example, it's true that he was just the HFC and not HFC/AD. Before Barrier came, the AD position was given to someone else who has been associated with the school and within the athletic program for over 20 years and this was done to create some consistency with the athletic programs as the HFCs tend to only last 3-4 years, if that, at Hardin. That said, the salary was very good for Hardin for just being HFC. It wasn't the "needed more assistants" that was a problem...it was the impossibility of hiring more, due to a lack of candidates that met the criteria. This is not a problem with just Hardin, but everywhere else too. I think I read somewhere that at the THSCA coaching school that there were a ton of job postings but not enough candidates to fill those jobs.
Hardin tried to keep Barrier. People may not believe it, but it's true.
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28 minutes ago, oldman said:
Where did Barrier end up?
Assistant at Anahuac.
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On 9/23/2022 at 8:32 AM, 2wedge said:
From what I have gathered, it was a question of resourcing the program in the way that could set them up for success in the future. Barrier needed more assistants in order to elevate the program from a coaching perspective. Keep in mind, Barrier wasn't even the AD at Hardin, just the HFC. That is another issue and made it extremely easy for him to leave to be an assistant in another district. It wasn't like he was walking away from an administrators salary to take an assistant role at Anahuac. The younger Barrier is a generational talent and would've been the best player Hardin football had ever seen, and his dad is a damn good coach also. I am not sure anything would've been able to keep them there, but Hardin didn't even try. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Hardin has too many hands in the cookie jar over there. Small town politics at it's finest. Board members and parents who are not realistic in their expectations. They let Anthony Morgan get out of the gate years ago, and Barrier will be the next one they will regret for decades.
I don't know how I'm just now seeing this considering Anahuac just beat Hardin last week, but this....you know nothing.
The only thing I agree with is that Coach Barrier is a good coach and the small town politics stuff (you find that everywhere...even at Anahuac).
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12 hours ago, JimAdler said:
I saw that Hardin is playing Huntsville tonight, is that true ? If so, how did they do
Hardin won in 4 (25-11, 20-25, 25-21, 25-11).
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20 hours ago, JimAdler said:
How many more non-district games does Hardin have before entering district play? Does anyone in district have the ability to steal a match from those Lady Hornets ?
There are 2 non-district games left... Beaumont Monsignor Kelly today at 4:30 (varsity only) and Huntsville next Tuesday.
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Hardin sweeps Dayton 2-0 ( 25-11, 25-18) to close the day out. Bracket play begins tomorrow.
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Tournament Scores/Results week of Aug. 7th
in High School Volleyball
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That is from the other teams who have a MaxPreps account. When they record a win/loss, it is reflected in the other team's profile as well. Most years, the MaxPreps is very inconsistent in records. Hardin does not have a MaxPreps account that is officially kept up by Hardin staff. They are currently 4-5 at the moment, but improving every day. If someone were to go back over the past years, one would see that the majority of the losses for Hardin seasons occurred in the early part of the season.
The question of the day: Are Kenny Powers and Jim Adler the same person?