Dick Vitale

[quote name="vp32" post="1177006" timestamp="1329148656"] You know the only reason he is doing this is to get attention yall. Just ignore him like a little fly and he will eventually go away.  8) [/quote] Don't need the attention....Heck, I dont WANT the attention.  Seems like YOU are having a hard time ignoring me, being that you pop up on every thread I am on...Nor do you honor your bets, I see...Typical.. ;)

Truth - Nederland has two losses in district, and are tied for first in district 20-4A Opinionated Truth - They are not a deep or talented team, yet they play hard and are well coached. DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW?  I swear its like pulling teeth with some of you.... :o I know what I know about this game. Most people do not or will not understand where I am coming from because you are not comprehending from a rational standpoint. Its an EMOTIONAL one, because you LOVE your school and town so much.  I have no issue with that...So why do you have issue with an OPINIONATED TRUTH...Do you disagree with it? If you do, its ok..I am not going to tell you how bad a person you are because you don't agree with me! Thats crazy!

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1176986" timestamp="1329147090"] And I have an idea on how SETXsports and the Depot can make some money tonight as the show will be originating from Nederland, but I have a couple of questions: 1)  Can anyone in Nederland get access to a dunking booth? 2)  Dickie V, do you have a set of swimming trunks? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D [/quote] That would make a fistful of cash!!!  8) [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=95870.msg1176989#msg1176989 date=1329147226] I encourage all the Nederland fans (and others too) to come out tonight at the Hamburger Depot in Nederland. Maybe you will get to meet Dickie V. ;) ;D [/quote] I will only sign autographs and take photos from 5:30-6.... ;D ;D

[quote name="EZDawg" post="1176958" timestamp="1329144741"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95851.msg1176914#msg1176914 date=1329139029] I am sorry you feel that way, however I have never and will never discredit a kid by name...I started this thread initially to prove a point.....and [b]it has been proven[/b]...if you dont praise Nederland and post about how great they are, people such as yourself make it into a "you hate Nederland" issue, when that is CLEARLY not the case..a disgrace? Are you kidding me? It's a message board! I will state my opinion whether YOU agree with it or not...I HAVE said MANY positive things about the Nederland program, but it is obvious those went over your head...Re-read the thread...you just might catch them....enjoy your day. 8) [/quote] The only thing that has been 'proven' is that you have an opinion, like everyone else, but [b]you[/b] (and only you) believe your opinion to be superior. I usually stick to the FB forum, but it doesn't take a basketball genius to figure this one out. Regardless of how many times you have given props to Coach English, you turn right back around and slap his players down. That's right. You claim to know him and be his 'friend'. Sorry, don't see any of his other 'friends' on here trying to demoralize his team. You try to be positive about them, then you throw in a[b] but [/b] or [b]however[/b]. You sound like an intelligent guy, so I KNOW you are aware of how powerful those words can be. Don't you find it ironic that so many people are saying the same thing about your posts, yet you continue to defend yourself the same exact way? This has been going on for weeks, then you reach out and slap Coach English AGAIN with this absurd topic?? And don't reply to my comments and defend yourself, bc you have been saying the same things over and over and over and over and over. Oh, sorry! Was that a bit redundant??  ::) [/quote] Redundant? what you mean the fact that I have said over and over how good a job Coach E is doing over there? Or the part that they are not THAT good? which one? I have a TON of respect for Coach E, and he knows that I will always tell it like it is...The reason you all FROM Nederland are being so sensitive is probably because you don't like to hear the truth...Or better yet an OPINIONATED truth...I have said this, and will say it once again...Those kids play hard, they play smart and are well coached..They are not going to out-talent many teams, but have a great coach that usually gets them through. Thats my take. How is that redundant?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1176952" timestamp="1329144123"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95860.msg1176940#msg1176940 date=1329143325] Well the price they charge would not be anymore than what is standard...I am certain that this place is probably fought over for basketball and volleyball playoffs...They will probably have a guest in there for each game leading up to regionals! That is such a nice facility... 8) [/quote]For that area, its probably compared to a top NBA facility and a nice place to attend after herding cattle all day. Which reminds me, if you a city boy, never go out with ropers because they party like there is no tomorrow. ;) [/quote] Now THAT was funny!  ;D ;D ;D LOL

[quote name="baddog" post="1176945" timestamp="1329143680"] .....and DV gets the last word. Who cares what you think about our program? I don't but will defend our kids and town. Move on to something else DV. We know your POV. [/quote] Sure..excuse me for defending ME... ::) ::)...Next topic...Who has the better Hamburger Depot? Nederland or Beaumont...I say BEAUMONT!! Just because its closer to Ozen!!! >:( >:( ;D ;D

[quote name="stevenash" post="1176941" timestamp="1329143424"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95855.msg1176936#msg1176936 date=1329142751] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=95855.msg1176934#msg1176934 date=1329142575] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95855.msg1176931#msg1176931 date=1329142335] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95855.msg1176928#msg1176928 date=1329141463] [quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=95855.msg1176922#msg1176922 date=1329140794] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95855.msg1176644#msg1176644 date=1329082774] [quote author=ECBucFan link=topic=95855.msg1176638#msg1176638 date=1329082224] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95855.msg1176627#msg1176627 date=1329080849] At least EC will go to playoffs for the next few years. Relax ;) [/quote] EC goes to the playoffs each year, every year, for the last 20 or so. The district is irrelevant, as for as making playoffs is concerned. Actually, Region 4 is the easiest to get to Austin out of, IMO.    [/quote]Basketball State titles last 20 years? [/quote] 2 more than H-F !!!!!!! [/quote]*ouch* Now thats a low blow! [/quote] Hey, Dove I think you are forgetting...Your boys are at Ozen now..I think they've been to Austin a time or four, right?  8)...See if the EC crew wants to compare that!! :D [/quote] Dick- Looks like you are moving away from Nederland and are now taking on EC.  The saga continues. [/quote] Nah, just giving them a break...I'll be back to burst their preverbial bubbles some more in a few..... 8)...I actually LIKE the EC faithful...They have realistic expectations of their team, and have had a decent amount of success in doing so.... ::)....but what do I know..... ::) [/quote] Why burst the proverbial (note the correct spelling) the bubbles of anyone?  Isn't everyone entitled to their own hopes/dreams/beliefs? [/quote] Thanks for the typo correction by the way, it proves my imperfection just a bit more...Everyone is entitled to their thoughts and opinions, except for me apparently when I speak about a certain school off of Spurlock Rd. and Hwy 69 in the Golden Triangle...Why is it any different?

Well the price they charge would not be anymore than what is standard...I am certain that this place is probably fought over for basketball and volleyball playoffs...They will probably have a guest in there for each game leading up to regionals! That is such a nice facility... 8)

[quote name="stevenash" post="1176934" timestamp="1329142575"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95855.msg1176931#msg1176931 date=1329142335] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95855.msg1176928#msg1176928 date=1329141463] [quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=95855.msg1176922#msg1176922 date=1329140794] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95855.msg1176644#msg1176644 date=1329082774] [quote author=ECBucFan link=topic=95855.msg1176638#msg1176638 date=1329082224] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95855.msg1176627#msg1176627 date=1329080849] At least EC will go to playoffs for the next few years. Relax ;) [/quote] EC goes to the playoffs each year, every year, for the last 20 or so. The district is irrelevant, as for as making playoffs is concerned. Actually, Region 4 is the easiest to get to Austin out of, IMO.    [/quote]Basketball State titles last 20 years? [/quote] 2 more than H-F !!!!!!! [/quote]*ouch* Now thats a low blow! [/quote] Hey, Dove I think you are forgetting...Your boys are at Ozen now..I think they've been to Austin a time or four, right?  8)...See if the EC crew wants to compare that!! :D [/quote] Dick- Looks like you are moving away from Nederland and are now taking on EC.  The saga continues. [/quote] Nah, just giving them a break...I'll be back to burst their preverbial bubbles some more in a few..... 8)...I actually LIKE the EC faithful...They have realistic expectations of their team, and have had a decent amount of success in doing so.... ::)....but what do I know..... ::)

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1176928" timestamp="1329141463"] [quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=95855.msg1176922#msg1176922 date=1329140794] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95855.msg1176644#msg1176644 date=1329082774] [quote author=ECBucFan link=topic=95855.msg1176638#msg1176638 date=1329082224] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95855.msg1176627#msg1176627 date=1329080849] At least EC will go to playoffs for the next few years. Relax ;) [/quote] EC goes to the playoffs each year, every year, for the last 20 or so. The district is irrelevant, as for as making playoffs is concerned. Actually, Region 4 is the easiest to get to Austin out of, IMO.    [/quote]Basketball State titles last 20 years? [/quote] 2 more than H-F !!!!!!! [/quote]*ouch* Now thats a low blow! [/quote] Hey, Dove I think you are forgetting...Your boys are at Ozen now..I think they've been to Austin a time or four, right?  8)...See if the EC crew wants to compare that!! :D

I know one thing, those YES Prep schools had better build some gymnasiums, or EC will be playing them OUTSIDE at Finnegan Park across from Wheatley High School!!  ;D

I am sorry you feel that way, however I have never and will never discredit a kid by name...I started this thread initially to prove a point.....and it has been proven...if you dont praise Nederland and post about how great they are, people such as yourself make it into a "you hate Nederland" issue, when that is CLEARLY not the case..a disgrace? Are you kidding me? It's a message board! I will state my opinion whether YOU agree with it or not...I HAVE said MANY positive things about the Nederland program, but it is obvious those went over your head...Re-read the thread...you just might catch them....enjoy your day. 8)

[quote name="LCMBIGFan" post="1176884" timestamp="1329107678"] We get mad at the State because they are laying off teachers and then we see this. No wonder we can't afford teachers. [/quote] I seriously doubt that state funds were used for this place...This was likely 100% local! ;)

[quote name="bigdog" post="1176868" timestamp="1329106225"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95851.msg1176860#msg1176860 date=1329105771] Ozen has a head boys basketball coach...that job is not open. My point is and always was the fact that ALL of the BISD schools have basketball talent.  The bar was set at Ozen 11 years ago, and this year or last they are nowhere near that standard. [/quote] Ok.  So what is your opinion on fixing this?  Surely you have a suggestion. [/quote] Listen, thats what we have been discussing on here for weeks.  WHY things are the way they are in district 20-4A...I have given my thoughts on here many times, in the most politically correct way possible...Just re-read the threads for my thoughts on that.

Ozen has a head boys basketball coach...that job is not open. My point is and always was the fact that ALL of the BISD schools have basketball talent.  The bar was set at Ozen 11 years ago, and this year or last they are nowhere near that standard.

[quote name="bmrm" post="1176841" timestamp="1329104279"] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=95837.msg1176829#msg1176829 date=1329103677] [quote author=bmrm link=topic=95837.msg1176827#msg1176827 date=1329103507] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95837.msg1176811#msg1176811 date=1329102431] [quote author=bmrm link=topic=95837.msg1176799#msg1176799 date=1329101401] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=95837.msg1176221#msg1176221 date=1328986049] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95837.msg1176119#msg1176119 date=1328971519] I had the opportunity to see and talk with my old coach (Walter Yates) and his old buddy former NBA'er Luke Jackson. They brought up some things that opened my thought s up on the playoff system. Three to four schools get picked in the 3-a, 4-a, or 5a schools for playoffs. Let me break this down a little deeper. You can be a  3rd or 4th place team and make the playoffs! Is that really a true accomplishment? Maybe in today's standards it is looked at in a favorable way. But there use to be days when you would have 3-5 team ties and there was a playoff to see who really deserved it. Thanks to true ol'schoolers for keeping it real. But times have changed and I can accept it but you just can't fool everybody, if you know what I mean ;) [/quote] Dove- this "everybody is a winner" and "nobod should ever feel left out" are two lefty propositions that have no place in basketball (and a lot of other places too)  At the rate we are going, it wont be long until everyone is in the playoffs because it's the "fair" thing to do. [/quote] "Change we can believe in!"  Oh wait, that phrase has already been utilized - unsuccessfully mind you. [/quote] Unsuccessful only in YOUR mind...wrong forum for that discussion. [/quote] Admins, please forgive me for being off-topic, but may I have just a little leeway for a moment?  DV please enlighten us as to the accomplishments & successes of YOUR president?  [/quote] While given the tenor of your question I can tell you we are on the same page, there is a forum for such a topic and this ain't the one. [/quote] WOS I couldn't help it, I just have a hard time that they walk among us.  [/quote] Who would be considered "they"? and "us"....wow...mods are you taking note of this person hijacking the thread AND making questionable comments? Can't have that, now can we? ::)

[quote name="bmrm" post="1176821" timestamp="1329103112"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95806.msg1176810#msg1176810 date=1329102347] [quote author=bmrm link=topic=95806.msg1176795#msg1176795 date=1329100664] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95806.msg1176174#msg1176174 date=1328978239] [quote author=Tigersvoice link=topic=95806.msg1176173#msg1176173 date=1328978004] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95806.msg1176170#msg1176170 date=1328977560] [quote author=Tigersvoice link=topic=95806.msg1176168#msg1176168 date=1328976977] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95806.msg1176133#msg1176133 date=1328973340] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=95806.msg1176132#msg1176132 date=1328973116] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=95806.msg1176108#msg1176108 date=1328969679] i absolutely respect Sutherland for finding a way to keep the game from getting too far out of hand.  53-11 at the half, and find a way to finish the game with a score of 78-43?  Coach wise needs to take lessons. [/quote] He is too busy recruiting to take lessons. [/quote] ::) ::)...really?...There is a kid that mysteriously landed on HJ's gym door step, too...Is that not how kids can end up at Yates, too? ::) 8) [/quote] Yes, Dickie, it could be.  The frequency in which it happens at Yates as opposed to how often it happens at HJ is the part that is suspect. ;) [/quote] OK, but doesn't the odds of it happening in a city as large as Houston increase in frequency due to the numbers? Which makes a kid moving into Sour Lake from Beaumont.....suspect... ::) ::) 8) [/quote] But where else in Houston does it happen with the frequency that Yates seems to have the good fortune of having? 8)  And urban flight out of Beaumont has been happening for many years.  People are bailing out of Beaumont is all directions, not just out Hwy. 105 to Sour Lake. [/quote] Urban flight?  :o...Oh yeah, thats logical...Lets leave Beaumont, and head to the rice fields of Sour Lake!... ::) ::)..No sir...FB Travis received some notable transfers...So does Bellaire...annually.. ;)..Its not just Yates... 8) [/quote] DV you profess to be knowledgeable of this area & question urban flight?  Have you not heard of the city of Lumberton?  People are & have been getting the he!! out of Dodge(BISD) for years now & 99.9% has nothing to do with basketball.  [/quote] Sometimes its best to excercise the option to just not respond...This is DEFINITELY one of those times... ::) [/quote] For your sake I agree - it's best to keep your mouth shut than to open it and remove all doubt.  [/quote] Listen, I really loathe ignorance...I was being sarcastic with the comment about "urban flight"...I was trying to not call you stupid for missing it, but you beat me to it...Now...please, lets try to stay on topic.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1176826" timestamp="1329103458"] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=95851.msg1176823#msg1176823 date=1329103281] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=95851.msg1176816#msg1176816 date=1329102803] Guys, If I understand Dickie V's reasoning correctly, I can see what he means.  Look at it this way.  Coach English is getting about 95% out of his players... This is a result of great coaching!  But Nederland is just about as good as they are going to get this year. But Ozen (and Central) has players with far more athletic potential and the coaching staff is NOT getting the most out of their potentials... let's say 60-70% (although the exact number is open to debate), the point is, that the Ozen team can be much, MUCH better with some better coaching. So, is DV picking on Nederland?  I don't think so.  But much like the HJ faithful who react like pitbulls when they feel HJ Is being maligned, the Nederland faithful are absolutely certain that DV is drinking HatorAde when it comes to Nederland. Frankly, I see his point.  There is a coaching vacuum in Beaumont that is holding the Panthers and Jaguars from competing at the level that they could be (considering the talent on the teams). I hope I didn't muddy up the waters even further. [/quote] No, you just about hit it on the head, Fan.  You'll be generally ignored, or even maligned, but you got it. [/quote] And a number of people disagree with his premise whether he is right or wrong. [/quote] Why is that? If I am right, I am right....Why would anyone disagree with right? ???

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="1176816" timestamp="1329102803"] Guys, If I understand Dickie V's reasoning correctly, I can see what he means.  Look at it this way.  Coach English is getting about 95% out of his players... This is a result of great coaching!  But Nederland is just about as good as they are going to get this year. But Ozen (and Central) has players with far more athletic potential and the coaching staff is NOT getting the most out of their potentials... let's say 60-70% (although the exact number is open to debate), the point is, that the Ozen team can be much, MUCH better with some better coaching. So, is DV picking on Nederland?  I don't think so.  But much like the HJ faithful who react like pitbulls when they feel HJ Is being maligned, the Nederland faithful are absolutely certain that DV is drinking HatorAde when it comes to Nederland. Frankly, I see his point.  There is a coaching vacuum in Beaumont that is holding the Panthers and Jaguars from competing at the level that they could be (considering the talent on the teams). I hope I didn't muddy up the waters even further. [/quote] FINALLY! I want to commend you for your superior reasoning and rationale as it pertains to this matter...Sir, I will be at the Hamburger Depot in Nederland on tomorrow for the SETX Weekly show....I would like to buy your dinner! Come on out!! 8) [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=95851.msg1176823#msg1176823 date=1329103281] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=95851.msg1176816#msg1176816 date=1329102803] Guys, If I understand Dickie V's reasoning correctly, I can see what he means.  Look at it this way.  Coach English is getting about 95% out of his players... This is a result of great coaching!  But Nederland is just about as good as they are going to get this year. But Ozen (and Central) has players with far more athletic potential and the coaching staff is NOT getting the most out of their potentials... let's say 60-70% (although the exact number is open to debate), the point is, that the Ozen team can be much, MUCH better with some better coaching. So, is DV picking on Nederland?  I don't think so.  But much like the HJ faithful who react like pitbulls when they feel HJ Is being maligned, the Nederland faithful are absolutely certain that DV is drinking HatorAde when it comes to Nederland. Frankly, I see his point.  There is a coaching vacuum in Beaumont that is holding the Panthers and Jaguars from competing at the level that they could be (considering the talent on the teams). I hope I didn't muddy up the waters even further. [/quote] No, you just about hit it on the head, Fan.  You'll be generally ignored, or even maligned, but you got it. [/quote] He DID nail it!! And you are right...It will go un-noticed...but he definitely nailed it! ;)

[quote name="bmrm" post="1176799" timestamp="1329101401"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=95837.msg1176221#msg1176221 date=1328986049] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95837.msg1176119#msg1176119 date=1328971519] I had the opportunity to see and talk with my old coach (Walter Yates) and his old buddy former NBA'er Luke Jackson. They brought up some things that opened my thought s up on the playoff system. Three to four schools get picked in the 3-a, 4-a, or 5a schools for playoffs. Let me break this down a little deeper. You can be a  3rd or 4th place team and make the playoffs! Is that really a true accomplishment? Maybe in today's standards it is looked at in a favorable way. But there use to be days when you would have 3-5 team ties and there was a playoff to see who really deserved it. Thanks to true ol'schoolers for keeping it real. But times have changed and I can accept it but you just can't fool everybody, if you know what I mean ;) [/quote] Dove- this "everybody is a winner" and "nobod should ever feel left out" are two lefty propositions that have no place in basketball (and a lot of other places too)  At the rate we are going, it wont be long until everyone is in the playoffs because it's the "fair" thing to do. [/quote] "Change we can believe in!"  Oh wait, that phrase has already been utilized - unsuccessfully mind you. [/quote] Unsuccessful only in YOUR mind...wrong forum for that discussion.

[quote name="bmrm" post="1176795" timestamp="1329100664"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95806.msg1176174#msg1176174 date=1328978239] [quote author=Tigersvoice link=topic=95806.msg1176173#msg1176173 date=1328978004] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95806.msg1176170#msg1176170 date=1328977560] [quote author=Tigersvoice link=topic=95806.msg1176168#msg1176168 date=1328976977] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95806.msg1176133#msg1176133 date=1328973340] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=95806.msg1176132#msg1176132 date=1328973116] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=95806.msg1176108#msg1176108 date=1328969679] i absolutely respect Sutherland for finding a way to keep the game from getting too far out of hand.  53-11 at the half, and find a way to finish the game with a score of 78-43?  Coach wise needs to take lessons. [/quote] He is too busy recruiting to take lessons. [/quote] ::) ::)...really?...There is a kid that mysteriously landed on HJ's gym door step, too...Is that not how kids can end up at Yates, too? ::) 8) [/quote] Yes, Dickie, it could be.  The frequency in which it happens at Yates as opposed to how often it happens at HJ is the part that is suspect. ;) [/quote] OK, but doesn't the odds of it happening in a city as large as Houston increase in frequency due to the numbers? Which makes a kid moving into Sour Lake from Beaumont.....suspect... ::) ::) 8) [/quote] But where else in Houston does it happen with the frequency that Yates seems to have the good fortune of having? 8)  And urban flight out of Beaumont has been happening for many years.  People are bailing out of Beaumont is all directions, not just out Hwy. 105 to Sour Lake. [/quote] Urban flight?  :o...Oh yeah, thats logical...Lets leave Beaumont, and head to the rice fields of Sour Lake!... ::) ::)..No sir...FB Travis received some notable transfers...So does Bellaire...annually.. ;)..Its not just Yates... 8) [/quote] DV you profess to be knowledgeable of this area & question urban flight?  Have you not heard of the city of Lumberton?  People are & have been getting the he!! out of Dodge(BISD) for years now & 99.9% has nothing to do with basketball.  [/quote] Sometimes its best to excercise the option to just not respond...This is DEFINITELY one of those times... ::)

[quote name="Wampus Kitty" post="1176749" timestamp="1329097569"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95851.msg1176628#msg1176628 date=1329081035] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=95851.msg1176626#msg1176626 date=1329080663] Nederland may not win state this year but I believe what the program has achieved over the last few years is a greater accomplishment than winning a title at an established program where basketball is the only athletic priority. [/quote] No sir... ::)....Not even close.... [/quote] Dickie V get a life and grow up [/quote] More fans... ::)....I just don't get this...grow up? what would indicate to you that I need to grow up? My opinion? Please share, because I enjoy chances at growth and development....even via the world wide web...

[quote name="baddog" post="1176743" timestamp="1329097055"] Funny how people who tend to single themselves out get upset when other people single them out. [/quote] No, the funny thing is that I am not upset in the least...and your lack of a better response further indicates that you have nothing better to say...Funny...isn't it? Now...If we can get off of me and back on topic, that would be a good thing... ;)

[quote name="stevenash" post="1176737" timestamp="1329096522"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95851.msg1176722#msg1176722 date=1329094859] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=95851.msg1176721#msg1176721 date=1329094701] [quote author=east texas bb link=topic=95851.msg1176487#msg1176487 date=1329019219] Nederland fans, take it as a compliment that so many people are talking about Nederland, no one would being saying anything unless they were doing good things.  No matter how good you are people are always going to talk about you, mostly because of jealousy, so take it as a compliment and ignore the rest.  I know it is tough to do, but that is what I would hope I would do. [/quote] I don't worry about small opinions of small people... [/quote] More insults, huh? Why do people that do not have the same opinion that you do have to be deemed "small"? What makes you so much "bigger" than they are? Is your opinion THAT much greater?...( I am saying they, because I am taking me out of that "small people" equation) [/quote] Dickie- Let me give you something to consider when making these "large people" "small people" references.  Whether it is intentional or not, it violates most everyone when they hear you word things in a manner that renders their opinion meaningless as compared to yours.  It does NOT matter one IOTA whether there is validity to that contention or not.  Taking that attitude ( or not taking it but portraying it) will be counterproductive in many avenues of life besides basketball.  Frankly, I am not as troubled by it because I happen to realize what a big basketball world there is out there and NOBODY but NOBODY(including you) has the last word on it. I watched Charles Barkley get on the television a few years ago and "declare" ( in all of his "been there done that" wisdom) that the Cavs would beat Boston and if  somehow they didnt, Orlando definitely would in the conference final. Well his "been there done that" prediction proved worthless as Boston won the Cleveland series in 6 and Orlando wasnt even in the final where Boston beat Detroit in five before beating the Lakers to take it all.  You certainly are entitled to your opinion but you might want to reconsider how you structure your comments.  There are a number of people on this board who have "earned their stripes"( I am not one of them) in the basketball world and for you to suggest that it is somehow less than what you have done makes you look like you are condescending to everyone else.  At this point in your life, you simply are not in a position to condescend. [/quote] I am CERTAIN that you and obviously a few others are reading me all wrong...The "small" reference came from the poster bigdog, when he stated that he is not bothered by "small" people...I simply asked him what makes others opinion "small" and his "big"...As for where I am in my life, I am quite content...Although I have plans to return to the sideline, the fact that I am not there now, BY NO MEANS, indicate that I am any less of a person, or that my knowledge of the game is somewhat diminished.  I don't understand that statement, but lets be clear.  I am not any less today than I was 10 years ago..I am actually better, because I have learned some life lessons, which will make me an even better coach when I return, and more importantly a better person.  I know what I know, and those that don't like that...well thats really not my problem...As I have said before, humility was not always my best quality, but I am working on it daily.. ;)

[quote name="bigdog" post="1176732" timestamp="1329095680"] I haven't offered an opinion on how far Nederland will go, and nobody on this site has said Nederland will win state.  YOU have come on here from the day that you got reinstated and started attacking Nederland, because your former team is no longer the dominant team that you think they should be.  You can't accept that things are cyclical, that other teams rise while others fall.  Nederland was a non-factor in 20-4a in football for 30 years until Neumann got here, now they are in the playoffs every year and most years are in the hunt for the district championship.  The same thing has happened when English got here.  He greatly improved Vidor the few years he was there and has improved Nederland since he arrived. [/quote] I don't disagree with you on anything you said, except the part about me "attacking" Nederland..I have not attacked anyone..If ANYTHING I have been attacked for giving my opinion.  If you read my posts, I ALWAYS speak on the job Coach English is doing in Nederland...ALWAYS..thats because that is the TRUTH and it also happens to be my opinion. However, I am not going to agree with EVERYTHING thats posted on here about how good Nederland is right now...I have seen them play SEVERAL times this season, and I have come to MY conclusion about them, in which I am entitled to. I am not insulting anyone, nor am I bashing any player or coach from there. I KNOW you have seen some other comments about Nederland on here that were not favorable, yet you choose to dissect MINE and why I am of the opinion that I am.  Just think about it...You have watched me like a HAWK since I came back on, even complaining about me using capital letters in my posts!  :o :o...I am a target, because of who I am, and have always accepted that, but I will NOT be singled out.  If I do wrong, I will be the FIRST to admit it, but stating my opinion in an intelligent manner is by no means WRONG.