Dick Vitale

Sometimes the jockey can cause the horse to stumble.... ::)

[quote name="stevenash" post="1177762" timestamp="1329251002"] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=95829.msg1177758#msg1177758 date=1329250452] [quote author=rc2182 link=topic=95829.msg1177687#msg1177687 date=1329240844] I personally think most of the JV players for  Ozen ,can be starters on a lot of the area varsity teams. [/quote] Didn't the world beaters/soon to be State Champion/King of the World/Best SE TX Team EVER, Nederland Bulldogs (JV) split with Ozen this year?  ;D [/quote] Yes, but they have no talent. [/quote] None... ::)

[b](-6) West Brook[/b] @ La Porte [b](-8) PAM[/b] @ Baytown Sterling Barbers Hill @ [b]Crosby (-12)[/b] Dayton @ [b]CE King (-15)[/b] [b](-21) Ozen [/b] @ Lumberton [b](-15) Central [/b] @ PNG [b]LCM[/b] @ Nederland (-8) Vidor @ [b]Livingston (-16)[/b] [b](-33) Silsbee[/b] @ Bridge City Hamshire-Fannett @ [b]Hardin-Jefferson (-27)[/b] [b](-5) WOS[/b] @ Orangefield [b](-13) Cleveland[/b] @ Tarkington [b](-18) Coldspring[/b] @ Liberty [b](-15) Splendora[/b] @ Shepherd [b](-5) Newton[/b] @ San Augustine Warren @ [b]Buna (-5)[/b] [b](-42) Kountze [/b] @ Deweyville Hardin @ [b]East Chambers (-24)[/b] Zavalla @ [b]West Sabine (-7)[/b] West Hardin @ [b]Evadale (-19)[/b]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1177660" timestamp="1329238185"] [quote author=lamar73! link=topic=95721.msg1177575#msg1177575 date=1329229272] 1. He is looking for a matchup problem team for his team to be better prepared for. (dominant inside game) Explain dominant and who in this area could provide that type of game play to the Tigers.  I think the Tigers make getting the ball to block for any team a very difficult thing.  They deny the pass very well and their help defense is impeccable. You can have twin towers in the paint but if they don't get the ball their size is mute attribute. If it is for rebounding purposes the Hawks slightly out rebounded them in both games.  If I am not mistaking 32 had close to double doubles in both games and the Tigers were challenged when 10 moved to the post or ran the baseline. So what you are saying if HJ plays the Tigers again 32 and 42 should stay on the bench and watch because they do not score 25 per game.  They are not expected to do that, they have their role and do it to the coaches satisfaction or they wouldn't be playing. One last question, what team is Silsbee wanting to prepare, to me it should be your next opponent. Although, your entitled to your comments next time a simple "We just want to a change a scenery" is far better than throwing kids under the bus. [/quote] First of all, explain how I threw any player under a bus?? ::) My comments were not my opinion. Those reasons for not wanting to play the seeding game came from the Silsbee coaching staff. I believe they know what is best for their team in getting prepared for the playoffs. I have seen just about every Silsbee game this year. The teams that have given Silsbee the most trouble is teams that have a dominant post play. WF Rider had a '6"8 post player that Silsbee had a hard time controlling. He had 38 points and 16 rebounds against them. McKinney North, Dallas Kimball and Dallas SOC posed the same problems for Silsbee. Even in some wins this year by the Tigers, they were still hurt by a big. Example: Silsbee's win 64-57 over Hamshire-Fannett last week, the Longhorn's post Cameron Malveaux had 29 points, 19 rebounds and 7 block shots. He was the main reason why that game was as close as it was. First time these two played in district this year, Silsbee won by 40. They had a better game defensively against HF. [b]I think it is very reasonable for a coach to want to schedule a team for a warm up game that will challenge the weakness of his team.[/b] In this case, if indeed Silsbee will be the #2 seed, then they would play Splendora then in the 2nd round face Brookshire Royal who has a '6"7 and '6"6 starting post players. I think Silsbee is confident in their abilities against Splendora but wants to be better prepared for a team that will cause major match up problems for them. Also, who said anything about Silsbee wanting to play anyone locally. They are looking at playing a Houston area team or up north in the East Texas area. They already have a tentative game set to play 3A #15 Pleasant Grove on Saturday in the East Texas Playoff Warm Up Classic. Pleasant Grove is in Region II and has a very good '6"8 post player, saw them play in the Sherman tourney where Silsbee played this year. [/quote] I think it pretty darn smart! 8)

Hey, I got one for you...Its a 3A out of the Houston Area...Off of Scott St., right across from the University of Houston... ::) ::)...colors are red and gold... ::)....Nah, just kidding.. 8)..Just bumping the thread back to the top for ya! ;D

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1177610" timestamp="1329234889"] My old neighborhood went down >:( [/quote] Nah, just letting the wrong ones IN.... ::) ::)

[quote name="Lt. Dangle" post="1177614" timestamp="1329235197"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=95721.msg1177131#msg1177131 date=1329161424] [quote author=bballgod link=topic=95721.msg1177124#msg1177124 date=1329161176] Both coaches have to agree to flip.  If one wants to play, then you play.  If the coach refuses, then it is a [b]forfeit[/b] and the other team gets the better seeding. [/quote] Forfeit or concession? [/quote]What would be the difference? [/quote] A forfeit means you take a loss, a concession means that you just concede the higher seed to the opponent. Big difference.

[quote name="Lt. Dangle" post="1177626" timestamp="1329236437"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95855.msg1177622#msg1177622 date=1329236202] Oh, I will be making a return to the sidelines soon...stay tuned. ;) [/quote]Oh---OK. Me, Too!!! ;) ;) ::) ::) ::) [/quote] Well good for you...just do not understand why you are so concerned about my status all of a sudden.. ???

Oh, I will be making a return to the sidelines soon...stay tuned. ;)

[quote name="finger roll" post="1177594" timestamp="1329232171"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95855.msg1177580#msg1177580 date=1329230005] [quote author=finger roll link=topic=95855.msg1177577#msg1177577 date=1329229555] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95855.msg1176946#msg1176946 date=1329143705] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95855.msg1176931#msg1176931 date=1329142335] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95855.msg1176928#msg1176928 date=1329141463] [quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=95855.msg1176922#msg1176922 date=1329140794] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95855.msg1176644#msg1176644 date=1329082774] [quote author=ECBucFan link=topic=95855.msg1176638#msg1176638 date=1329082224] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95855.msg1176627#msg1176627 date=1329080849] At least EC will go to playoffs for the next few years. Relax ;) [/quote] EC goes to the playoffs each year, every year, for the last 20 or so. The district is irrelevant, as for as making playoffs is concerned. Actually, Region 4 is the easiest to get to Austin out of, IMO.    [/quote]Basketball State titles last 20 years? [/quote] 2 more than H-F !!!!!!! [/quote]*ouch* Now thats a low blow! [/quote] Hey, Dove I think you are forgetting...Your boys are at Ozen now..I think they've been to Austin a time or four, right?  8)...See if the EC crew wants to compare that!! :D [/quote]Good point! EC :P [/quote]We don't recruit players over here at E.C.  Has Ozen been to state since Boutte left?  No.... Did he recruit players from all over Beaumont?  Yes...... Thats a fact.  Some of them work with me and tell stories of how he went to Jr. High Schools and had try outs.....  We will just stick to winning with the kids who are supposed to go to school at E.C.  [/quote] Exposing Lie #1: Ever hear of a kid FROM ANAHUAC named DONTE RAYMOND? Exposing Lie #2: No one from Ozen, has EVER had to recruit ANY kid to come to Ozen.  Boutte and I would attend our feeder pattern games for two reasons...1) so the kids would know who we were, which was what we were SUPPOSED to do, and 2) his sons and my nephews PLAYED for those jr. high schools, which was also what we were SUPPOSED to do... Know the difference between FACTS and LIES....enjoy your day... 8) [/quote]Yes I have heard of Donte Raymond.  He wasn't recruited to EC.  Isn't the idea of recruiting players to your school to bring in all state type tallent?  examples:  Yates with Coach Wise and Ozen with Boutte....  I never said anything about attending feeder games.  I don't know anything about that.  I do know for a FACT that some of my co-workers played B-Ball in Beaumont and were supposed to go to West Brook.  Boutte had a try out and selected several of those guys to go to Ozen.  My co-workers were picked and did go to Ozen.  That is a fact.  I just felt like throwing a jab at you since you like to talk smack on this site and decided to talk about EC.  We run a clean program over here at EC.  We do not have to deal with kicking kids off of the team for drug abuse, wiping pepper spray out of their eyes for fighting, or worry about them slinging crap all over the oppents locker room after a victory.  Go back to hating on that midcounty school that you seem very jealous of and leave little ole EC alone.  We are doing just fine.  That is all. [/quote] A try-out? Man please...Tell your "co-worker" to tell that lie to someone who will believe it.... ::)...I actually was not talking bad about EC I was having fun with BLUEDOVE3 about something entirely different...Besides, for people to be jealous you have to have WON something...NO titles in EC or Nederland last I checked... ::)...THAT is all. 8) [quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=95855.msg1177599#msg1177599 date=1329233295] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95855.msg1176931#msg1176931 date=1329142335] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95855.msg1176928#msg1176928 date=1329141463] [quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=95855.msg1176922#msg1176922 date=1329140794] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95855.msg1176644#msg1176644 date=1329082774] [quote author=ECBucFan link=topic=95855.msg1176638#msg1176638 date=1329082224] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95855.msg1176627#msg1176627 date=1329080849] At least EC will go to playoffs for the next few years. Relax ;) [/quote] EC goes to the playoffs each year, every year, for the last 20 or so. The district is irrelevant, as for as making playoffs is concerned. Actually, Region 4 is the easiest to get to Austin out of, IMO.    [/quote]Basketball State titles last 20 years? [/quote] 2 more than H-F !!!!!!! [/quote]*ouch* Now thats a low blow! [/quote] Hey, Dove I think you are forgetting...Your boys are at Ozen now..I think they've been to Austin a time or four, right?  8)...See if the EC crew wants to compare that!! :D [/quote]Well now we know what Ozen has done.....kudos to them, too. Just making it to the Final Four in Austin is a fantastic accomplishment. But where have you been, DV, besides in front of a laptop armchair quarterbacking this basketball thread. [/quote] Making money......and you?.... ;)....don't watch me, watch TV.

[quote name="ST413" post="1177587" timestamp="1329231342"] How many kids are on the  varsity?. It is a little hard to believe that on a basketball team of say about 15 kids that a coach wouldnt know a kid didn't live in the district especially that he wasnt enrolled in the school. [/quote] Thats what they are meeting about this morning..He knew good and well what was going on...How can you NOT know? HISD has fired one coach last week for playing ineligible kids...Guess we will see what happens here, but I know the AD in HISD is not playing ANY games! ;)

[quote name="finger roll" post="1177577" timestamp="1329229555"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95855.msg1176946#msg1176946 date=1329143705] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95855.msg1176931#msg1176931 date=1329142335] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95855.msg1176928#msg1176928 date=1329141463] [quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=95855.msg1176922#msg1176922 date=1329140794] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95855.msg1176644#msg1176644 date=1329082774] [quote author=ECBucFan link=topic=95855.msg1176638#msg1176638 date=1329082224] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95855.msg1176627#msg1176627 date=1329080849] At least EC will go to playoffs for the next few years. Relax ;) [/quote] EC goes to the playoffs each year, every year, for the last 20 or so. The district is irrelevant, as for as making playoffs is concerned. Actually, Region 4 is the easiest to get to Austin out of, IMO.    [/quote]Basketball State titles last 20 years? [/quote] 2 more than H-F !!!!!!! [/quote]*ouch* Now thats a low blow! [/quote] Hey, Dove I think you are forgetting...Your boys are at Ozen now..I think they've been to Austin a time or four, right?  8)...See if the EC crew wants to compare that!! :D [/quote]Good point! EC :P [/quote]We don't recruit players over here at E.C.  Has Ozen been to state since Boutte left?  No.... Did he recruit players from all over Beaumont?  Yes...... Thats a fact.  Some of them work with me and tell stories of how he went to Jr. High Schools and had try outs.....  We will just stick to winning with the kids who are supposed to go to school at E.C.  [/quote] Exposing Lie #1: Ever hear of a kid FROM ANAHUAC named DONTE RAYMOND? Exposing Lie #2: No one from Ozen, has EVER had to recruit ANY kid to come to Ozen.  Boutte and I would attend our feeder pattern games for two reasons...1) so the kids would know who we were, which was what we were SUPPOSED to do, and 2) his sons and my nephews PLAYED for those jr. high schools, which was also what we were SUPPOSED to do... Know the difference between FACTS and LIES....enjoy your day... 8)

How stupid...You know I HATE AAU, right? :D

You are a man of honor.... 8)...in my book, anyway... ;)

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1177447" timestamp="1329191279"] I missed the show tonight......why is Wheatley having to forfeit 5 games?? [/quote] A player was moved to varsity that did not attend Wheatley, but attended a nearby Charter School..He was moved to varsity 5 games ago...He was a 9th grader and they found out when he tried to legally enroll into the school the other day...No I am not kidding... :o....In HISD there are three schools that do not offer athletics...and if a student attends one of those schools he may play sports at his ZONED school...THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO CHARTER SCHOOL STUDENTS... ::) ::) ::)...They are going to discuss the coach's fate in the morning at a meeting..Forfeiting those 5 games puts them in 4th place and gets them a first round meeting with Yates....yes...Yates.

[quote name="vp32" post="1177446" timestamp="1329191113"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95659.msg1177440#msg1177440 date=1329190449] [quote author=vp32 link=topic=95659.msg1177438#msg1177438 date=1329190347] [quote author=tokenwb link=topic=95659.msg1177354#msg1177354 date=1329181801] According to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171. During rendition of the National Anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Compliments of Uncle Google  ;D [/quote] I was trained in the United State Navy, that when out of uniform to stand at attention. That's it. No hand over the heart or anything. Not disrespecting those who do or saying that those who do are wrong. I just do what i am trained to do. [/quote] Navy men are men of honor...and men of honor, pay their gambling debts..... ::) ::) [/quote] You still haven't laid out your terms lil censored-ie. [/quote] In your signature line....it should read..."SETXsports' Dick Vitale is a true basketball GURU...His basketball knowledge is second to NONE!"  8)...That should be sufficient... ;)

[quote name="vp32" post="1177438" timestamp="1329190347"] [quote author=tokenwb link=topic=95659.msg1177354#msg1177354 date=1329181801] According to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171. During rendition of the National Anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Compliments of Uncle Google  ;D [/quote] I was trained in the United State Navy, that when out of uniform to stand at attention. That's it. No hand over the heart or anything. Not disrespecting those who do or saying that those who do are wrong. I just do what i am trained to do. [/quote] Navy men are men of honor...and men of honor, pay their gambling debts..... ::) ::)

[quote name="Catcher11" post="1177265" timestamp="1329169693"] Former Bridge City ISD Coach Sheree Hill is the Heads Girls Basketball Coach at Glen Rose [/quote] Was she formerly Sheree DOWNS? She was the first Ozen girls BB coach.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1177233" timestamp="1329166621"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95866.msg1177172#msg1177172 date=1329163360] On the phone as we speak....HISD has INDEED put their foot down in this matter..Apparently they will NOT appeal it, because they feel that Yates' actual attendance numbers are 3A, therefore, they will drop just as the other schools have..something was said about not giving them "preferential treatment"....WOW..Usually when Yates or Wheatley folks make a fuss, its somehow always heard...This is a RARE occurance in HISD history!! Looks like they will be competing in 3A after all. :o [/quote] Wheatley [s]may[/s] probably will have to forfeit about 5 district games [/quote] Yep, they will go in as the 4th seed as opposed to the 1st and guess who the 1st round opponent will be? You guessed it! YATES! Whoa! Best round 1 game of the playoffs!

[quote name="sleepy" post="1177189" timestamp="1329163996"] I guess my confusion lies in the fact that you are basically saying wheatley and yates counted their students in two different ways?  One of the sure is right and one of them surely is wrong.  Really confused on this! [/quote] It's very confusing, but I can tell you that Yates has more students than Wheatley, yet Wheatley will remain in 4A...Yates has a magnet school population, the school of communications, and honestly I dj not sure HOW or IF they counted that population of kids...I was told how it went down, but who knows....As of now, Yates is going to be 3A next year...as of now...next week? Who knows!  ;D

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1177171" timestamp="1329163315"] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=95721.msg1177145#msg1177145 date=1329162186] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=95721.msg1177139#msg1177139 date=1329161945] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=95721.msg1177137#msg1177137 date=1329161886] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95721.msg1177134#msg1177134 date=1329161751] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=95721.msg1177127#msg1177127 date=1329161246] [quote author=bballgod link=topic=95721.msg1177124#msg1177124 date=1329161176] Both coaches have to agree to flip.  If one wants to play, then you play.  If the coach refuses, then it is a forfeit and the other team gets the better seeding. [/quote] This is 100% correct. [/quote]Let them play...  for us fans!  8) [/quote] I agree.  Assuming that both teams win tomorrow night a decision would be made on Wednesday morning. [b] I hope that they both agree to play.[/b] [/quote] I don't see it happening. [/quote] honestly not stirring the pot here.  does this have to do with the fact that HJ is a slight favorite to beat them, or what?  what is Sigler's rationale behind not playing for seeding? [/quote] 1. He is looking for a matchup problem team for his team to be better prepared for. (dominant inside game) 2. This particular year, neither side of the bracket is favorable. So being #1 seed is not as important. no real benefit. 3. Seen HJ enough, would like to play some other teams. [/quote] All legitimate reasons...

On the phone as we speak....HISD has INDEED put their foot down in this matter..Apparently they will NOT appeal it, because they feel that Yates' actual attendance numbers are 3A, therefore, they will drop just as the other schools have..something was said about not giving them "preferential treatment"....WOW..Usually when Yates or Wheatley folks make a fuss, its somehow always heard...This is a RARE occurance in HISD history!! Looks like they will be competing in 3A after all. :o

[quote name="bullets13" post="1177145" timestamp="1329162186"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=95721.msg1177139#msg1177139 date=1329161945] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=95721.msg1177137#msg1177137 date=1329161886] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95721.msg1177134#msg1177134 date=1329161751] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=95721.msg1177127#msg1177127 date=1329161246] [quote author=bballgod link=topic=95721.msg1177124#msg1177124 date=1329161176] Both coaches have to agree to flip.  If one wants to play, then you play.  If the coach refuses, then it is a forfeit and the other team gets the better seeding. [/quote] This is 100% correct. [/quote]Let them play...  for us fans!  8) [/quote] I agree.  Assuming that both teams win tomorrow night a decision would be made on Wednesday morning. [b] I hope that they both agree to play.[/b] [/quote] I don't see it happening. [/quote] honestly not stirring the pot here.  does this have to do with the fact that HJ is a slight favorite to beat them, or what?  what is Sigler's rationale behind not playing for seeding? [/quote] That is DEFINITELY stirring the pot!!!  :D...There is a HUGE spoon somewhere with your name and fingerprints ALL OVER IT!!  ;D ;D

If that is the case, then HISD has indeed put their foot down...They wanted it to happen, the Yates HS community did not...I was only repeating what was told to me from a friend in the HISD athletic dept..I have no horse in this race, so it makes me no difference either way. I will call back today and get an update.

[quote name="team first" post="1177003" timestamp="1329148357"] 100 people in the marching band, 1 out of step, yet it's the other 99 Band members fault. [/quote] As it pertains to this....that post made zero sense. [quote author=vp32 link=topic=95851.msg1177012#msg1177012 date=1329149136] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95851.msg1177009#msg1177009 date=1329148806] [quote author=vp32 link=topic=95851.msg1177006#msg1177006 date=1329148656] You know the only reason he is doing this is to get attention yall. Just ignore him like a little fly and he will eventually go away.  8) [/quote] Don't need the attention....Heck, I dont WANT the attention.  Seems like YOU are having a hard time ignoring me, being that you pop up on every thread I am on...Nor do you honor your bets, I see...Typical.. ;) [/quote] I honor bets with men who deserve it. Not annoying stuck up snobs like yourself who think they know everything and there word is God. [/quote] Thats ok..A MAN honors his word, no matter WHAT you feel about the other person...Military indeed.. ::)..you can't handle the truth!! (how appropriate)...just be glad it was not monetary... ;)...I was right...again.  As I always am.... ::)..(sarcasm in case you thought I was THAT arrogant)