Dick Vitale

Silsbee Speed = Dangerous playoff team  ;)

I think Pat Knight is doing the right thing here...Roc's laid back approach has been held over, apparently, to THIS year's team...In year one, Knight has got to let these guys know that those days are long gone, and I think he is slowly getting his point across....I know it will definitely help him in the future...Lamar will be better for it.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1180890" timestamp="1329653129"] I am taking Nederland from both a talent and intellect perspective ;D [/quote] I am taking Nederland in this one, because they take FOUR teams to the playoffs and no matter HOW bad your district is, you SHOULD be able to beat a 4th place team from another...usually...so I am picking Nederland in this one since they were HANDED the top seed by Central's concession... ::) ::)...Plus Nash, Nederland IS more talented than Dayton! ;D 8)

Learn to honor your bets.....SOLDIER! 8)

Don't say I didn't warn you guys....WHEATLEY is playing NO GAMES Monday night!! ;)

[quote name="BigDaddy00" post="1180555" timestamp="1329549819"] [quote author=understand link=topic=96199.msg1180531#msg1180531 date=1329545357] Ture Simon may not be the best coach but you need horses to run a horse races with, and West Brook players are nowhere near North Shore , or the Laport players, Laportt beat them in football and basketball and most likely track too, i dont know why you guys think you can win with no talent, oh thats right you win in aau and summer leagues [/quote] true they did beat Westbrook in football also but they had a really good team and also upset the number 1 state ranked team in the playoffs when they beat katy. [/quote] One has absolutely nothing to do with the other....WOS beat Hardin Jeffersn in football too, but it has ZERO to do with them getting beat by HJ in basketball....Laporte's basketball team was terrible...SOMETHING is definitely wrong... ::)

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1180545" timestamp="1329547477"] There is no Michael Carey, Wannah Bail, etc to compete. You know this Dickie. AAU baby! ;D [/quote] Yeah, but they have some nice young guns over there NOW Dove... ;).  I saw them at Memorial..They should be in the playoffs EASY...Laporte? They were AWFUL!  :o

[quote name="understand" post="1180540" timestamp="1329547011"] West Brook talent is ok but its not good or deep for 5a if they were 4a , 3a then game plans and x and o's would work with some of what they have but Brook has not had an inside man in years or a good one on one guy to go to,hey i wish all the kids  and schools from orn - pt arthur would win but West Brook don't even have a 200 pound guy on that team and no defenses guys , they  are playing 5a basketball college is next and i do think there is not one West Brook player playing college ball. I guess that might be coach problem because the last 5-7 , 6' 8" guys that played at Brook or not in college. [/quote] in 2000, WB started a 6'9, a 6'8 and boasted two of the best guards in the area...missed the playoffs.... ::)....They have had some big and talented teams too...nope, thats not it... ::)

Fact: Since 1998, Westbrook has had MORE Division I basketball players than Ozen and Central....Since 1998 Westbrook has had ZERO regional tournament appearances, ZERO district championships, and FIVE playoff appearances...Since 1998... ::)...There is SOMETHING wrong.... [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1180538" timestamp="1329546517"] WB has talent but not enough to compete with North Shore. [/quote] There is a reason for that too.  Even at THAT, kids STILL go to Westbrook...They were in the regionals in 95, 96, and 97....Then it all just......stopped.  The kids have BEEN there...

[quote name="understand" post="1180531" timestamp="1329545357"] Ture Simon may not be the best coach but you need horses to run a horse races with, and West Brook players are nowhere near North Shore , or the Laport players, Laportt beat them in football and basketball and most likely track too, i dont know why you guys think you can win with no talent, oh thats right you win in aau and summer leagues [/quote] False. Westbrook HAS had talent for YEARS.  Largest HS in BEAUMONT.  Talent is definitely not an excuse.  FOUR TEAMS make the playoffs and Westbrook does not get in....SOMETHING is not right with that picture.

First name Greatest, last name Ever!! 8)

[quote name="stevenash" post="1180478" timestamp="1329536610"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=96199.msg1180469#msg1180469 date=1329536235] Ozen: 3rd Place in 20-4A Westbrook:  Misses the playoffs (with FOUR teams going) Central: Tied with Nederland for 20-4A district crown...... Am I the only one that sees this as just.....WRONG? ??? [/quote] Yes [/quote] Why do you think this should be? really...

Yates may not be in Yates bracket anymore after Monday night!! ;)...They get to play Wheatley in round ONE due to Wheatley having to forfeit 5 games....

Ozen: 3rd Place in 20-4A Westbrook:  Misses the playoffs (with FOUR teams going) Central: Tied with Nederland for 20-4A district crown...... Am I the only one that sees this as just.....WRONG? ???

[quote name="stevenash" post="1180437" timestamp="1329534498"] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=96046.msg1180420#msg1180420 date=1329533595] I am still trying to figure out how this is a "weak schedule" Kountze (26-8 1st Place District) Nederland (27-7 Co-Champs with Central) Beaumont Central (21-9 Co-Champs with Nederland) Port Lavaca Calhoun (28-4 1st Place District--Ranked as high as #21) Corpus Christi Calallen (14-15 2nd Place Behind CC Ray) Kingwood Park (24-11 2nd Place District Behind Humble) Jacksonville (24-8 2nd Place District Behind Tyler) LC-M (4 Times) (19-15 4th Place District) Silsbee (2 Times) (23-7 Co-Champs with HJ) 3A #5 Ranked Team Is it as strong as some teams, no!!!  But it is far from weak!!!!  12-1 in those 13 games.  Only loss at Silsbee by 3 points.  There are no more or no less weak teams on HJ's schedule than anyone else's!!!!  No world beaters on there either!!!  But non-district wins over good solid 4A teams and a solid 2A team in Kountze. [/quote] The schedule is not and never has been the problem in reality.  Some feel the need to find a way to discredit a situation that they resent or envy, particularly if it is exceeding expectations. If you can't attack the won-loss record, the schedule is the next logical step.  If for some reason that fails, then, even though it is quite a bit less credible, you will hear things like " the refs give them preferential treatment", or "their old coach is in the UIL"  yadda, yadda, yadda.  Bottom line is, if you are winning, you will always face some detractors and nothing can be done about that.  [/quote] Seriously...you are right..but I think BLUEDOVE3 just likes to give you guys a hard time..I know he is one who can truly appreciate a good basketball program.  As far as the schedule goes, you can really only play the teams locally, for the most part, unless its an out of town tournament, and being that HJ was probably one of the top areas teams, they just have to play whoever they can get to line up in front of them...36-1 is hard to argue against.

Women...can't live with em...can't kill em... ;)

Shady....Just shady...thats cool..

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="1180236" timestamp="1329520977"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95944.msg1179825#msg1179825 date=1329486787] Best 1st round matchup in TEXAS will be held Monday night!! Wheatley vs. Yates, Delmar Stadium, 7:30 pm, Monday, February 19th....Oh boy, oh boy!!! I will stick with my pick...Wheatley (#4 seed) over Yates (#1 seed) 102-97... ;)....calling it early! [/quote] Ha! Not only are you calling it early, But if you get there on the 19th, You will be getting there early! Bring your overnight camping gear. [/quote] Thanks! Noted and changed! ;)...

OK.  No problem.  Thats shady.... >:(

Its not honoring the bet...Really? >:(

[quote name="NB-Dawg" post="1179978" timestamp="1329498141"] Hate is NOT an attractive quality DV!  >:( U can't deny it, bc U clearly HATE the fact that Nederland has now won this district 3 years in a row.  :o [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=96046.msg1179970#msg1179970 date=1329497583] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=96046.msg1179964#msg1179964 date=1329497144] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=96046.msg1179929#msg1179929 date=1329494220] [quote author=bmrm link=topic=96046.msg1179772#msg1179772 date=1329451442] [quote author=lamar73! link=topic=96046.msg1179214#msg1179214 date=1329400191] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=96046.msg1178769#msg1178769 date=1329338201] [quote author=lamar73! link=topic=96046.msg1178748#msg1178748 date=1329337311] Silsbee conceded their way around Ricky Seal Jones. He is nasty! [/quote] Yes right into a Brookshire Royal team that has two '6"6 post players and swept Jones' Sealy team in district by scores of 101-81 and 86-70. ;) ::) The concession had more to do with Silsbee wanting to lineup a particular warm up opponent and prepare them for some match up problems than the route thru the brackets. [/quote] [u]Brookshire Royal[/u] Ray Johnson 6'6"  [b]ppg 10  rb 6  bl 1[/b] Kenton Sams 6'5"  [b]ppg12  rb 4  bl 1[/b] [u]Sealy[/u] Ricky Seals-Jones 6'6" [b]ppg 32  rb 14.7  bl 2[/b]  :o [/quote] HJ will have their hands full should they have to face Seals-Jones & Sealy. [/quote] HJ will be fine against Sealy. Brookshire Royal beat them by 20 at home and 16 at Sealy. If Royal is 18 points better than Sealy, then Sealy should not be much of a threat. Sounds like the big kid carries them in most games. He had 38 and 36 in both losses to Royal. You average 37 against a good team and lose, that shows you don't have much help, IMO. [/quote] ::) Now Nederland peeps think they're experts in basketball and only two years winning district. [/quote] CO-district titles at that.... ::) ::)....CO? two CO's out of a hundred tries!! CO.... ::) ::) ;D [/quote] [/quote] 1 ouright title in 457 years... ::)  8)...SHARED it twice...Once with Ozen, the other with Central... ::)..Do I HATE Nederland? No way...Is it difficult to stomach? You bet it is! 8)

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1179964" timestamp="1329497144"] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=96046.msg1179929#msg1179929 date=1329494220] [quote author=bmrm link=topic=96046.msg1179772#msg1179772 date=1329451442] [quote author=lamar73! link=topic=96046.msg1179214#msg1179214 date=1329400191] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=96046.msg1178769#msg1178769 date=1329338201] [quote author=lamar73! link=topic=96046.msg1178748#msg1178748 date=1329337311] Silsbee conceded their way around Ricky Seal Jones. He is nasty! [/quote] Yes right into a Brookshire Royal team that has two '6"6 post players and swept Jones' Sealy team in district by scores of 101-81 and 86-70. ;) ::) The concession had more to do with Silsbee wanting to lineup a particular warm up opponent and prepare them for some match up problems than the route thru the brackets. [/quote] [u]Brookshire Royal[/u] Ray Johnson 6'6"  [b]ppg 10  rb 6  bl 1[/b] Kenton Sams 6'5"  [b]ppg12  rb 4  bl 1[/b] [u]Sealy[/u] Ricky Seals-Jones 6'6" [b]ppg 32  rb 14.7  bl 2[/b]  :o [/quote] HJ will have their hands full should they have to face Seals-Jones & Sealy. [/quote] HJ will be fine against Sealy. Brookshire Royal beat them by 20 at home and 16 at Sealy. If Royal is 18 points better than Sealy, then Sealy should not be much of a threat. Sounds like the big kid carries them in most games. He had 38 and 36 in both losses to Royal. You average 37 against a good team and lose, that shows you don't have much help, IMO. [/quote] ::) Now Nederland peeps think they're experts in basketball and only two years winning district. [/quote] CO-district titles at that.... ::) ::)....CO? two CO's out of a hundred tries!! CO.... ::) ::) ;D

[quote name="NB-Dawg" post="1179965" timestamp="1329497234"] No DV, Ned beat Central by 17 (51-34) in the 1st District matchup. Central beat Ned by 15 (49-34) in Beaumont. I would say that BOTH games were lopsided, so a game at a neutral site SHOULD be anyone's game. U can't count a game that was played 68 days ago and not count one from 38 days ago. [/quote] You are right..I was thinking about the Ozen game in Nederland...I stand corrected...You guys COULD have had a shot to beat them if you would have played again...20-4A... :-X

[quote name="stevenash" post="1179957" timestamp="1329496650"] It is imperative that we find a way for you to have a better opinion of yourself. [/quote] Can't help it....must have gotten an extra humility gene! ;D

[quote name="stevenash" post="1179950" timestamp="1329495970"] Before your "glorious" return to this board, there were several experts(self perceived, of course) that voiced multiple complaints about how the inferior schedule of HJ as compared to other area notables would be a detriment.  HJs record against those notables says that claim had no credibility in the least. [/quote] Ohhh, I see..perhaps my "glorious" return should have come earlier, so that me, in my infinite wisdom, could have refuted those claims about HJ's "soft as wet tissue paper" schedule in the pre-district... 8)