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I think it will be an intersquad scrimmage. Is May 2nd when the scrimmage is scheduled. I am in that neck of the woods now so I might pop on over and see that.

Kennedale leads 4-0 at half

Yes, that is what I meant. Leave it to a former kicker to correct me on that, lol!

The game will be starting late due to the game before going to penalty kicks.

Girls Class 4A State Championship from Birkelbach Field in Georgetown at 2:30 pm!

The schools of Southeast Texas again take to the waters of Lake Sam Rayburn to again set the record for the biggest high school fishing tournament ever on Saturday for 3rd leg of the South Texas Ford Dealers High School Championship Series. In March, the Little Cypress-Mauriceville team of Kyler Hebert and Ryan Ford took the tournament with a 5 fish bag weighing in at 23 pounds, while fellow Orange County anglers Kaden Duncan and Randy Abate of Bridge City hauled in the big bass of the day at 8.78 pounds. Who will come on top on Saturday? Join SETXsports Owner Jordan Wilson as he brings you the weigh in from Umphrey Pavilion on Lake Sam Rayburn beginning at 2:00 pm to find out and you can listen in by clicking play on the above Cube player: Share Events on The Cube So get the latest as the high schoolers hit the great outdoors on Your Source for Sports in Southeast Texas, SETXsports!

You have no choice but to be cool with that.

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If you can have both, great! It has been noted some that have both. My point is that, no matter how you spin it, this is an expense and a pretty darned significant one. One that the various boards of trustees have to examine and examine closely to see if their school districts can absorb such an expense. Those that have examined the expense and have determined that they can absorb it do deserve kudos. At the same time, those that have examined the expense and have determined that they can not at this time do not deserve our scorn and to me labeling a school district as "behind the times" (as many posts have done, as well as the guest who chooses to waste my time with reports rather than registering and posting) or "unappreciative of its athletes" or saying that a district hasn't made such an expenditure a priority qualifies as such.

Well, while it is unfortunate that they want to lynch Coach Jehling before his team takes the field, it is fortunate that he, as Chris Babin's assistant, has experience in this matter. As I recall, there were a number of folks in Lumberton last year who wanted Coach Babin and his staff, including Coach Jehling, hanging from the tallest tree over Village Creek before the Raiders even took a snap. I am sure Coach observed well what was done to placate those folks and he will surely apply those lessons in Hamshire. And if the results of last year are not repeated, I hope the Longhorn faithful keep in mind that it has more to do with who is no longer behind center than with who wears the big headset on the sidelines.

Tomorrow, the Lady Dawgs will face Kennadale, who beat Kilgore 6-0 this afternoon.

From the Twitter reports I saw, Jasper pretty much had the better of it with a few on goal shots that didn't make it through in regulation.

I get really nervous when the words "school district" "artificial turf" and "priorities" are used in the same sentence. The #1 priority of a school district is to provide an education to prepare a child for the world that we all live in. Anything beyond that should receive support if there is room in the budget, either by general fund or bond, to get that. And since this thread has turned specifically to WO-S, it is only fair to note that they have attempted to make that room. In 2007, the district called for a bond election for which about $3.9 million would have been devoted to the overhaul of Dan R. Hooks Stadium. An overhaul which included not only a turf field, but renovation of the seating (which anybody, home or away, can tell you is the biggest complaint about the stadium), renovation of concession areas and the bathroom facilities. Narrowly, that bond failed. A subsequent bond in 2011 passed which took care of some of these issues, but not for the turf or seating. I know that Nederland has had pretty close to the same history. I genuinely hope that in the near future either by bond or out of the general fund turf is on the field and I am sure that I not alone. After all, I agree with oldschool that if anyone has built up the equity to earn such turf, it is the Mustangs. At the same time, the Mustangs are the poster child for a team that can be, at the very least, relevant without playing its home games on artificial turf. The program isn't considered an outstanding program because of this: This is what counts in West Orange, Texas: So to come on and term a program backward because it has it doesn't have this: when in the last season they got this: is a little ridiculous, don't you think? It is especially ridiculous given the cost of such an undertaking might not make the economic sense that we have been lead to believe. The following link is from FieldTurf, a company that installs artificial turf: [Hidden Content] As you can see, the base preparations and materials would constitute a $700,000 initial outlay as opposed to $370,000 for base preparations and materials for a grass field. But remember, the base and materials are already in place for a grass field at D.R. Hooks, so it would be a $700,000 outlay for a turf whose life according to this company's numbers is 8-10 years. FieldTurf acknowledges the base preparation and materials might be cheaper if competitor installs it ($640,000 initial outlay as opposed to the $700,000 for FieldTurf), but the life of the competitor's field is only 6-8 years. Then you come to maintenance. FieldTurf estimates that maintenance (and as I stated earlier, you just don't put this carpet down and play... there is maintenance!) for one of it fields is $5,000 a year as opposed to $20,000 in maintenance for grass (and remember, these aren't my numbers, they're the numbers of the company that is trying to sell you on the idea of artificial turf) which would be a savings of $15,000 a year over the life of the turf which is maximum 10 years according the company. So it the field lives to its maximum, a school district would save about $150,000 in maintenance costs. Only to lay out another $380,000 again in 8-10 years. According to FieldTurf, if you use one of their competitors, that field would take $10,000 a year to maintain. So if a district were to use one of the competitors, they would enjoy a $10,000 savings on maintenance a years. So if one of those fields lives to its maximum (8 years), the school district saves a total of $80,000 in maintenance costs over the life of the turf, only to lay out at least $320,000 in another 8 years. Just for fairness, let's include the materials for the grass field, which FieldTurf estimates at $220,000, as savings as well, since there will need to be periodic resodding for the grass field. Now, we have heard a whole bunch about monetary benefits that the district could gain by installing artificial turf. Well, even oldschool acknowledged that location is a big challenge and with WO-S being one of the, if not the, most eastern school in the State of Texas that any sort of playoff rental would be rare, if at all. Heck, Hardin, which has turf and a reasonable location given its western location in this part of the area, has been able to manage ONE playoff game since it installed turf. So the idea of rental from playoff is just about out the window. Then we hear about the idea of renting to youth football. Well, specific to West Orange-Stark, let's play some Jeopardy. Todd: Alex, I will take football fields in Orange for $500. Alex: The answer....The entity that owns both of the regulation size football fields in Orange and West Orange. Yes, Todd! Todd: What is the West Orange-Cove Consolidated Independent School District? Alex: Correct, please pick again. This little exercise, silly as it was, is to let you know that WO-S already gets whatever rentals from whatever youth football is played in Orange (if indeed any of the Youth teams actually play in Orange). So the increase in revenue for the district would be....well...$0. So we are now back at the district outlaying anywhere from $640,000 to $700,000 for either $350,000 in decreased cost of maintenance and materials over 10 years in the case of FieldTurf or $340,000 in decreased cost of maintenance and materials over 8 years. All with the certainty of another payout of at least another $320,000 to $340,000 8 to 10 years from now and the possibility of increased revenue due to turf renovations being negligible, at best. We all have mentioned what we thought Hillary or Bernie would think. But I wonder what Donald would think. Mr. Trump, if one of your subordinates sign off on this deal for one of your companies, what would you tell them? Yeah me, too, Mr. Trump. I can't come on here and say that laying artificial turf is cost prohibitive as we have seen districts in this area pull it off, but the cost question is not the no-brainer that some would like us to believe. That is why I rankle when folks want to come on here and call this area backwards or stuck in the past simply because there is grass on their field and not artificial turf. To do so reminds me of a small child that throws a tantrum and proclaims that their parents don't love him because he didn't get the latest, hottest toy. I hope that most, if not all, of the school districts in Southeast Texas find the means to purchase artificial turf fields for their stadiums by the time we are in the 2020's. But if that does not happen, I certainly won't belittle them as some folks here have been prone to do.

Definitely did not appear to be a money maker.

Congratulations to the Lady Bulldogs! They will play the winner of the Kennedale/Kilgore match tomorrow for the 4A State Championship tomorrow in Georgetown at 2:30 pm

Another factor is that the weather in Georgetown doesn't appear to be particularly good.

I haven't seen any numbers. But from the photos I have seen, the attendance looks to be pretty sparse.

At the end of regulation, Salado 0, Jasper 0. What will follow are two 10 minute periods. If the score is still tied after that, they will go to a penalty kick shootout.

Last post was a tweet by David Thompson of the Beaumont Enterprise

Under 16 minutes remaining. One goal will likely decide this. If not, overtime for Jasper and Salado.

They have just started the second half with no score in this match

Class 4A State Semifinal from Birkelbach Field in Georgetown and started at 11:00 am

I think it would be foolish to believe that the results of the individual teams from either list I posted would have been different if they had played on another surface. The teams that won a lot, and for that matter the teams that lost a lot, did so because of what happened from the feet up not from what was below the feet.

It certainly took you a while. I told last night that the second list would bolster your argument.

Big Sandy takes this one 16-1