OldTimer

Really think the Horns may have dodged a bullet here - Strong if he had a chance I believe made a good call here by not offering Murray - think Murray will be a locker room problem wherever he is. But time will tell maybe Stoops can handle this better than Sumlin did.

Listen guys - I do not want to cheapen this thread by digressing from the real topic at hand which is the passing of - from all indications - a great man. But to get all upset about a tongue in cheek comment about a connection to the coaching situation at Texas to his death is a little hypocritical. You and other anti-Ag's have no qualms about making many insensitive comments including insinuating beastialty about Aggie's ALL THE TIME as well as many many other derogatory comments about A&M and its students - so you tell me where do you draw the line. Is making a wisecrack about death worse than a wisecrack about beastialty? In my opinion no! That is the last I will say on this as this thread is and should be about Joe Jamail.

bulldogbacker and baddog - Mack has stated that he was not laughing and then pointed out the good facts of a great Texas Alum - so don't get your panties in a wad.

The University of Texas (won't see me use that often) and the State of Texas has lost a good man. Joe Jamail was a good Texas Alum - A great Texas Lawyer - from what I have read a great benefactor - All of which he should be remember fondly for.

Ok

Boulder

The best campus I have ever been on is Colorado - can't beat the surroundings.

Reading lessons a possibility - those stats were Blinn JUCO not High School.

"WE CAN"T RID OURSELVES OF THE MOUTH BREATHERS" - REALLY!!!!!!!! Interesting that you posted this on a A&M thread - the reality is that it looks us that can't get rid of ya'll

I think calling Jake (or any player for that matter) anything but unproven until he plays is a stretch - but it is not like Jake has not performed on the field - while it was a JUCO he completed 65% of his passes for over 4,000 yards and had 47 TD passes and only 9 Int - not too bad.

"as for me and my house, We are glad Aggies chose to leave. " Ditto for me and my house. But Thank You for your agreement as I was worried and losing sleep about what and how you felt about that

Whichever one is right - obviously.

If you have a Texas coach got 7-6 and 5-7 in his first 2 years and don't think there are alumni that are trying to get him canned you do not understand the demands that the Texas alumni make to be the best program in the State of Texas year in and year out - that is the reason why I do think that Texas is one of the best coaching opportunities in the country but also one of the most demanding and can burn many coaches until they find the right one. So I agree where there is smoke there is very likely fire - in this case the fire is growing.

Was good to see many of the other current players tweeting their support for (1) A&M and (2) Jake Hubenak. Several names that I thought may be adversely affected like Christian Kirk and Ricky Seals Jones made me feel a little better about the future. Kirk's tweet was I thought a good one: "I came to A&M because I love this town and University simple as that. This teams been through adversity before, we'll be alright #GigEm" Noticeably missing however was Daylon Mack - still might be a wildcard. Also thought one tweet could be very telling - "Entitlement is such a silly beast. Welcome to 2015."

I admit that I am one of the ones that was overjoyed that Kyler picked A&M over Texas - but looking in the rearview mirror there is no doubt that the A&M program would be much better off today if Kyler has chosen to go elsewhere - and by that I do believe from what I have heard and what has been made public that Kyler has been a disruptive force in the locker room.

Would not be surprised to see him at Texas next year - but from what I am hearing again from a dad whose son is on the team - Kyler was never a team player in he locker room. Maybe Strong can do a better job of "coaching" him up?

I think he would be on the hot seat next year even if the player defections had not occurred - since they have he should be squarely on the No. 1 hotseat if he makes it into next year. The outcome if this is far from being decided - more defections are a possibility and a serious drop on the recruiting trail is very likely - depending on what happens between now and February 1 - Sumlin may not coach next year at A&M.

@A&MQBCLUB: Rumors are flying around A&M that Coach Sumlin and Coach Spavatal have set up a booth outside of the A&M Memorial Student Center asking for all All-District or better QB's to try out for the team - immediate openings are available #WRTS.

"Amidst all the turmoil surrounding his program, Texas A&M quarterback Jake Hubenak has taken to Twitter to attempt to cheer up his fan base. The Aggies’ junior posted a picture of himself with the caption, “Gig’em” and a thumbs-up emoji on Twitter. This, of course, occurs after the Kyler Murray transfer rumors, the reported Speedy Noil suspension and the departure of Kyle Allen." Hey at least it appears that one A&M QB is still in the fold.

I would normally agree with you - but this situation has put Sumlin's job in jeopardy - he might not be in a charitable mood.

Read the article does he really like are agree with anybody or anything?

Lol - no matter who you are that was funny!

I have no issue with this plan - at this moment I agree with letting Murray leave - then deal with the consequences of that with recruiting and perhaps players leaving then hope to right the ship next year - if Sumlin can win then we all know that "winning cures all problems" - if he cannot hit the new coach search trail and get the best possible candidate that is available. This is Sumlin's mess he has to deal with it.

If that is the case then I just lost more of my already deteriorating regard for Sumlin - if you let a player any player dictate the terms of his alliance to the program - specially when it comes to hiring or firing coaches - it is just a disaster just waiting to happen.

If that is the truth - more changes ahead for Texas as well it seems.