xavierbreath

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="763786" timestamp="1266806683"] These are the enrollment numbers for each school in district 21-3A for the last two realignments. '08-'09 Silsbee    843.5 BC          707 WOS       691 HJ           662 HF          568 OF          521 '10-'11 Silsbee (853) Bridge City (714) West Orange-Stark (699) Hardin-Jefferson (586) Orangefield (527) Hamshire-Fannett (527) HJ lost the most with a 76 drop in enrollment, HF lost 41. [/quote] Thanks for the info AAW.   Now if I did my math correctly, that is about an 11% drop at HJ and about 7% at HF..........OH MY GAWD!.........there must have been a heckuva  "crash" at HJ ;D  Just think of how big of drop it would have been had  all those students not left HF for HJ

[quote name="kingfisher" post="763758" timestamp="1266803510"] [quote author=xavierbreath link=topic=65861.msg763756#msg763756 date=1266802939] [quote author=ECbuc4real link=topic=65861.msg763716#msg763716 date=1266793048] Not just the current AD and administration,but the previous one as well. Ever since Tarver has left and a change in administration there has been a decline in numbers and sucesss in boys athletics. The baseball team has had some sucess but will play with only 2 seniors this year..This is a disgrace for a 3A progroam that had 3 teams just 6 years ago,and now barely fielding 2. Football as well has had a huge drop in numbers, that cannot field 3 teams in high school. When PAISD merged the schools there were an influx of students at that time,now they choose to go to Sabine Pass instead Y? HF had students lining up to go there 5-6 years ago, what has happened.[i][b] I am just saying that something crashed and at least 3 distrists are benefiting from it.[/b][/i] The numbers don't lie. Maybe someone from HFcan shed some light on this. Look at the seniors for the last 2 years alone from EC,HJ,Kelly,just in that started HS at HF but left for whatever reason. [/quote] Are you a politician?  You do a great job of avoiding the questions I have asked (based on statement that you are making). First you said "the crash", indicating you had knowledge of some event or events that occurred or were occurring, but now you are "saying that something crashed" with out presenting any facts or evidence.  Case in point, I believe if it were possible to go check enrollment at HF I believe you would  probably find students that have moved in to HF that started  high school somewhere else.  There are lots of reasons that can happen (parents employment, desire to move to another area etc).  I don't believe that there are students just moving out of the district (but I could be wrong).  I also know that many families were displaced from the flooding of IKE.  Could this have been a reason for a move? I don't know.  Now again, a point you avoided (and I may be wrong on this) I believe HF is an "exemplary" district.  So my question is if students moved because as you say "something crashed", I would have to assume that it was not academics.  If this is the case, then the moves must have been for athletic reasons.......................and you have stated "HJ is not the only school benefiting from the crash at HF, We have welcomed several good multi sport players to EC over the last 4 or 5 years and they have had great sucess here".  Then in another post you say "I would never say that students were transfering for sports, that would be unbelievable wouldn't it"  Again, I believe that it is a violation of UIL rules to change schools for athletic purposes. So, which is it?  Did the students you are referring to leave for athletic reasons? academic reasons? IKE? I have to assume the first reason because all or your responses  refer back to one sport or another. [/quote] Yo bra your rhetoric and fisherkings are eerily similar seeems like they are one in the same? [/quote] What do you mean king?

[quote name="ECbuc4real" post="763716" timestamp="1266793048"] Not just the current AD and administration,but the previous one as well. Ever since Tarver has left and a change in administration there has been a decline in numbers and sucesss in boys athletics. The baseball team has had some sucess but will play with only 2 seniors this year..This is a disgrace for a 3A progroam that had 3 teams just 6 years ago,and now barely fielding 2. Football as well has had a huge drop in numbers, that cannot field 3 teams in high school. When PAISD merged the schools there were an influx of students at that time,now they choose to go to Sabine Pass instead Y? HF had students lining up to go there 5-6 years ago, what has happened.[i][b] I am just saying that something crashed and at least 3 distrists are benefiting from it.[/b][/i] The numbers don't lie. Maybe someone from HFcan shed some light on this. Look at the seniors for the last 2 years alone from EC,HJ,Kelly,just in that started HS at HF but left for whatever reason. [/quote] Are you a politician?  You do a great job of avoiding the questions I have asked (based on statement that you are making). First you said "the crash", indicating you had knowledge of some event or events that occurred or were occurring, but now you are "saying that something crashed" with out presenting any facts or evidence.  Case in point, I believe if it were possible to go check enrollment at HF I believe you would  probably find students that have moved in to HF that started  high school somewhere else.  There are lots of reasons that can happen (parents employment, desire to move to another area etc).  I don't believe that there are students just moving out of the district (but I could be wrong).  I also know that many families were displaced from the flooding of IKE.  Could this have been a reason for a move? I don't know.   Now again, a point you avoided (and I may be wrong on this) I believe HF is an "exemplary" district.  So my question is if students moved because as you say "something crashed", I would have to assume that it was not academics.  If this is the case, then the moves must have been for athletic reasons.......................and you have stated "HJ is not the only school benefiting from the crash at HF, We have welcomed several good multi sport players to EC over the last 4 or 5 years and they have had great sucess here".  Then in another post you say "I would never say that students were transfering for sports, that would be unbelievable wouldn't it"  Again, I believe that it is a violation of UIL rules to change schools for athletic purposes but I cannot state that as fact. So, which is it?  Did the students you are referring to leave for athletic reasons? academic reasons? IKE? I have to assume the first reason because all or your responses  refer back to one sport or another.

[quote name="ECbuc4real" post="763667" timestamp="1266783649"] EC and HJ are benefiting from the crash,that is clear. Both athletes and non-athletes are transfering. The districts are benefiting from the increased enrollment. I would never say that students were transfering for sports, that would be unbelievable wouldn't it. Look at the transfers and attempted transfers over the last 4 and 5 years and you tell me. [/quote] Again you reference a "crash", what does that mean?  Then you say both athletes and non-athletes are transferring because of this so called "crash".  Then you would "never say that students were transferring for sports".  I still don't understand, because if it is not for athletic reasons (as you say), then the "crash" you speak of must refer to something else. And if it is something else, please enlighten us.  I am sure the people of HF would like to know. Correct me here if I am wrong, but isn't HF an "exemplary" district ? You will have to be more specific of the "transfers and attempted transfers over the last 4 and 5 years" for me to know what you are talking about.  My guess is that if you can be specific, you can probably only name athletes (" I would never say that students were transfering for sports, that would be unbelievable wouldn't it")..........?  Since you are making this comment as if it is fact, how many students have transferred?  If you cannot produce accurate numbers nor specific students, then how can you make such a statement? Since your comments are on this thread, I would have to assume your comments are directed at the current AD.  If the "transfers and attempted transfers over the last 4 and 5 years" have been happening as you state, then all this was occurring before the arrival of the current AD (I think he has only been at HF 3 years if my memory serves me correctly).  So I am trying figure all this out: Kids are leaving because of a "crash", but it is not for athletic reasons, yet (and I may be wrong on this so, correct me if I am) HF is an "exemplary" district You seem to insinuate that it is the current AD's fault, yet you say it has been happening "over the last 4 and 5 years" (again, correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the current AD has only been here 3 years) Please help me see the light

[quote name="ECbuc4real" post="762918" timestamp="1266630061"] [size=14pt][b]HJ is not the only school benefiting from the crash at HF, We have welcomed several good multi sport players to EC over the last 4 or 5 years and they have had great sucess here[/b][/size]. [size=10pt][i]If things stay the same at HF we will welcome more with open arms. I am not saying they came here for sports but thank you HF[/i][/size]. O yea these guys could have really helped HF. And for our sake I hope they leave our DC alone,he would make a good one but I dont think he would play the lil raindeer games they want a coach to play. [/quote] Please clear this up for me.  In the first sentence, you say HJ and EC are benefitting from the "crash at HF", then you say they didn't go there for sports?  So are you saying they moved for academic reasons? If so, then what does any of this have to do with as you say "the crash at HF".  However, if athletes are leaving for athletic reasons (which I believe you are insinuating), isn't that against UIL rules? I am just trying to understand your statement

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="763142" timestamp="1266674201"] Keep in mind, this was not an out right district title. Nederland and Ozen are Co-Champs. [/quote] Okay...........let me re-phrase may question.........when was the last time Nederland represented their district as the No. 1 seed?

Congrats Dogs! When was the last time Nederland won the district championship in basketball? I believe (and I could be wrong), but it was in the late '60s or early 70's

Congrats Tigers!

[quote name="hfresident" post="755556" timestamp="1265386784"] The problems start at the middle school....coaches tell parents and players "We don't have time to teach basketball." [/quote] I am trying to figure this out?  I found this post in the "Youth Basketball Forum": Just wanted to congratulate the HF 7th graders for coming out on top this season. They finished their season Monday with a 44-16 victory over Bridge City. Not only does this group have some talent, but more importantly this is a group of young men with outstanding character. Let's hope this team can stay together and develop their skills as a team. If this can happen, the sky's the limit. Good job young men. Hampshire Fannett 7th graders: Jordan Hunter, Tyler Blackwell, Bryan Sturgess, Kameron Williams, Ky Walker, Andrew Swearingen, Houston Reese, Austin Rodriguez and Chase Barge. Good job guys!