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[quote name="SummerCreek4" post="1331396" timestamp="1353006231"] [quote author=bulldog1984 link=topic=106293.msg1331390#msg1331390 date=1353005950] i watched yall play BH and yall would gain yards on just about anything you ran but i seen alot of penalties . 10 or 15 yards gained and 10 yard backwards. Disciplined ? just stating what i saw [/quote] [b]practically all our games we've played we been cheating by refs [/b]but we just line up and do the play again for an even bigger gain or big stops .. we focus on making someone else big play ours ... but i've seen film on vidor and seen alota extra necessary contact after a play was over that wasnt need and thats discipline ? just stating what i saw [/quote] come ooooonnnnnn.....

[quote name="toogoodforyou" post="1331387" timestamp="1353005807"] [quote author=dayton link=topic=106293.msg1331381#msg1331381 date=1353005546] [quote author=toogoodforyou link=topic=106293.msg1331378#msg1331378 date=1353005456] since when was SC not discipline? [/quote] who said that? he just said vidor was.... [/quote] just saying because I feel we're more discipline than they are [/quote] you very well could be..... you've got the athletes to make up for a lot though. Vidor has good athletes but not what SC has and therefore HAS to be disciplined.

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1331388" timestamp="1353005859"] [quote author=deep post link=topic=106154.msg1331379#msg1331379 date=1353005470] But like I said J.Jones Ozen...A BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [/quote] He's good but no where near the skill of Quirante. Just look at the stats. Disclaimer: I didn't mean this in a bad way. I'm sure he is a good kid. Jut not the best candadite for the wrs award. [/quote] gotta consider the team around him.... plug every good athlete into a great o-line, system, etc. I haven't seen either..... but numbers don't always tell the whole story.

[quote name="toogoodforyou" post="1331378" timestamp="1353005456"] since when was SC not discipline? [/quote] who said that? he just said vidor was....

[quote name="toogoodforyou" post="1331286" timestamp="1353002066"] [quote author=dayton link=topic=106059.msg1331281#msg1331281 date=1353001850] [quote author=SummerCreek4 link=topic=106059.msg1331278#msg1331278 date=1353001750] I BET vidor crowd goes from packed stands and a happy crowd to everybody half way [b]GONE [/b]by halftime !! [/quote] nah... they love their band AND their team.... even if they get blown out, they'll stay way longer than that. [/quote] we thought the same thing for png [/quote] they didn't leave before halftime....

[quote name="SummerCreek4" post="1331278" timestamp="1353001750"] I BET vidor crowd goes from packed stands and a happy crowd to everybody half way [b]GONE [/b]by halftime !! [/quote] nah... they love their band AND their team.... even if they get blown out, they'll stay way longer than that.

[quote name="cougar14" post="1331231" timestamp="1352999015"] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=106059.msg1331223#msg1331223 date=1352998199] Spoiled rich kids that didn't work a day in there life and got there money from daddy. Now that explains it. Like i said man. I really do feel sorry for you kid. Smh...... [/quote]Dad never gave me anything but a car in high school and some land now. I grinded out my economics degree and made my own way in the job market. He just lit a fire under me that still burns. And yes, I did say Barrett Station. Not a lot of land for sale in Newport where I grew up. [b]I think you would be surprised at some of the houses and land owners in Barrett Station,[/b] not everybody with a 6 figure job wants to move to Barbers Hill. I like to be able to open my back door and shoot hogs with my .223 without the police showing up. So hopefully that explained it for you. [/quote] gotta agree here.... some nice places out there.

[quote name="dme1111" post="1331185" timestamp="1352996226"] [quote author=Smoking Baby link=topic=106064.msg1331032#msg1331032 date=1352987329] [quote author=liltex link=topic=106064.msg1330989#msg1330989 date=1352983298] How many teams have Ned faced w/a Carranco type kicker(none in 20-4a)=poor field position all night,12,000 + fans bout to see 1 of the great ones-Go Broncos [/quote] Depends on which foot he brings.  He was BH's best special teams player....... ;D ;D [/quote] Nederland has a pretty good kicker as well... [/quote] yes they do... what grade is he in?

[quote name="Piratefan23" post="1331131" timestamp="1352993782"] [quote author=DOGS1988 link=topic=106205.msg1331108#msg1331108 date=1352991746] [b]Homer[/b].... ::) GO BULLDOGS....BEAT THE BRONCOS!!!! [/quote] What he said. Suddenly everyone is better than 20-4a after Vidor and Nederland were in the top four or five all year. Yeah right! [/quote] everybody that picks against your team is a homer.  ;D ;D come on.... everyone on this site has some homer in 'em. 8)

[quote name="bmtqj33" post="1331127" timestamp="1352993584"] Lets go [b]Panthers[/b],Big [b]Ned[/b],[b]Vidor[/b]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [/quote] no love for Livingston? [quote author=bmtqj33 link=topic=106205.msg1331126#msg1331126 date=1352993295] dayton one and done [/quote] been waiting years to use that one I bet.  :D

[quote name="cougar14" post="1331122" timestamp="1352992938"] [quote author=dayton link=topic=106064.msg1331111#msg1331111 date=1352991842] [quote author=TradinUp BH link=topic=106064.msg1331093#msg1331093 date=1352991025] Guys when ya'll do these stats thing, Please take out Porter, New Caney, and Humble. They were absolutely horrible. CEK, KP, BH, Crosby, Dayton, and SC games are the only ones that would really compare to football games. [/quote] Dayton vs CEK, KP, BH, CRO, SC - 1761 yds allowed    91 pts allowed Crosby vs CEK, KP, BH, DAY, SC - 1763 yds allowed    131 pts allowed [/quote]Good research, Dayton is trending down while Crosby is trending up though. The point disparity comes from the KP and Dayton games. The yards we gave up came from playoff teams, if BH had their qb you would have given more yards than Crosby. Y'all gave up 650 yards to KP and King, they didn't have 400 combined on us. Number are what the numbers are but I would take Crosby's defense and definitely offense over Dayton's right now. [/quote] I threw out some general numbers and didn't even comment on them.... but since you brought it up...  you played the best teams in the district first... no wonder you're trending up. You played a close game against KP and we didn't .... we played reserves against KP and you didn't.  You fail to recognize those things when they don't benefit your argument. I really wasn't making a case either way with those numbers but posted them because of TradinupBH's post about leaving out the bottom teams.

[quote name="TradinUp BH" post="1331093" timestamp="1352991025"] Guys when ya'll do these stats thing, Please take out Porter, New Caney, and Humble. They were absolutely horrible. CEK, KP, BH, Crosby, Dayton, and SC games are the only ones that would really compare to football games. [/quote] Dayton vs CEK, KP, BH, CRO, SC - 1761 yds allowed    91 pts allowed Crosby vs CEK, KP, BH, DAY, SC - 1763 yds allowed    131 pts allowed

[quote name="cougar14" post="1331092" timestamp="1352990605"] [quote author=dayton link=topic=106064.msg1331031#msg1331031 date=1352987252] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=106064.msg1331026#msg1331026 date=1352986943] [quote author=Cougtalk link=topic=106064.msg1330954#msg1330954 date=1352957267] Little Comparison Cuz I'm Bored. I think that Nederland will stop Dayton's running Game and win because of it. Lets compare... Cougars lost to both teams. Vs. Nederland they had 25 rushes for 53 yards Vs. Dayton they had 42 rushes for 288 Yards Vs. Nederland ypc 2.12 Vs. Dayton ypc 6.86 Lets Compare rushing offenses vs the Cougs Defense. vs. Nederland 46/208 vs dayton 36/149 vs nederland 4.52 ypc vs dayton 4.14 ypc. Difference. Nederland had a 2.4 Positive ratio Dayton had a -2.72 Ratio. Meaning you should expect the differential to be 5+ in the Offense to Defense YPC. Simply put Nederland is going to run up and down and Dayton is going to have to throw the ball to win. or they will try and run it and get destroyed. Either way i see Nederland Winning. If dayton tries to run the ball, they won't go anywhere and if they try and pass it the line won't be able to prevent the pass rush. The Broncos only chance at a win is a couple turnovers on the nederland side of the football field, and there defense playing at an extremely high level. I think Nederland gets an early TD then it's ground and pound from there, making it extremely difficult on the Broncos. If it stays close perhaps Carrancao will win one for Dayton, I just expect Nederland to win both line sof scrimmage and dominate this game physically. on route to a 14 point win. [/quote]I don't think you can use our Ned game for much. We maybe ran 20% of what we run now. First time those kids had heard those plays called in a game situation. Austin only got the ball 12 times and Riordan asked Aston not to run. The first designed play where the qb could run wasn't called until the first district game with BH. We had a bad game against Dayton, [b]but other than that the defense has gotten solid[/b] and I don't think Ned could put up those 200 rushing yards on us now. Even still with that the only put up 21 points and basically got shutout the last three quarters once the D adjusted. I agree with the rest of you assessment though, I've been saying all year that Dayton can't stop the run but the Brono fans tell me "who cares, we're winning, or we give up those yards late." Hopkins isn't the game breaker Walter is but he's bigger and great at finding 5 or 6 yards. Dayton only really ran the ball on us as far as decent teams go, but nearly half of their 130 something yard total came on one run from McBride in the 2nd quarter. I still think Dayton has a chance if they can get the passing game going but I'm not sure Ned's d-line will give Chambers time enough. [/quote] oh..... so now your defense has gotten salty...... I remember you saying before our game that your D would shut us down like they had everyone else in the 2nd half of games. You're entitled to your opinion, but don't do the same thing that you rip others for. [/quote]The only difference is, since I said our defense has gotten solid we haven't given up more than 246 total yards in a game. That's a lot different than getting beat by 38 after saying that. We've only given up over 200 total yards once since SC, that means I wasn't saying our D was salty after giving up 300+ yards to CE King and KP. Your stats didn't support your statement, mine do. When BH said their D got salty after giving up almost 500 yards to Crosby you agreed they had fixed it because they held y'all under 200 total yards, I was telling you then Dayton offense just sucked. Yeah,y'all threw it over our head and Riordan didn't make the DC adjust or help the guy y'all were picking on but we had y'all before that crap started happening. We were up 13-7 after the first with a dropped td and had you backed up in your own endzone on a 3rd and 35. If not for that 96 yards prayer from the back of the endzone your down 20 to 7 and in a deep hole against our type of O. Good in-game adjustment by the Broncos though, but we still threw and ran for a bunch on what was supposed to be a salty D. We averaged 450+ ypg on playoff teams in the district, I was just saying Dayton had been hit or miss but were getting breaks all season like the drops vs Elkins and no Denny for BH. I still hope y'all win man, we done playing so I don't start hating y'all again until August but your literally showing up to a dogfight with a limping horse. [/quote] You had us...... Crosby does the same crap every year. At some point, those mistakes are a part of your identity. So..... you had nothing. How much did your  cougs put up in 2nd half on dayton? You were down 17-7 at the half against bh and hammered them the second half and said you'd do it to us too. didn't happen. What's up with wanting to take away the big plays... i guess if it helps your numbers look good. That wasn't a desperation heave. Chambers was cool back there and the play was called because they knew it would work.... like you said, in game adjustments. BH has put up better numbers against their common opponents since playing you, so, their defense has gotten better. You just refuse to see that. It's not all about what they did to us. I hope Crosby wins too and am not saying our defense is the best, but our run defense isn't bad.

[quote name="BHFAN" post="1331059" timestamp="1352989271"] [quote author=dayton link=topic=106064.msg1331031#msg1331031 date=1352987252] And.... if dayton's run D is so bad, Bh should've been able to muster something up right? I mean that's their expertise.... [/quote] Daytons Run D against BH may have something to do with BH's running game being limited. Once Denny went out all we did is run up the middle and you had no worries of a Pass or an option. However I do think the Dayton Run Defense is pretty good and they will not have to worry about a Sharp like QB in this game. If Dayton can get the head on straight they will compete in this game, if not Nederland will control the clock and pound out a win. [/quote] That's really all I'm driving at.... I know that not having Denny changes things, but to insinuate that someone will just run all over us in that respect is reaching.... although, I should expect that from a Crosby fan.

[quote name="Teamlast" post="1330868" timestamp="1352947338"] Say what u want about vidor but I would take their kids any day over some outer Houston kids.  Make no mistake vidor kids wil not back down from anybody. Especially the winner of 19 4a in a down year. Vido will win this game Friday. That's not a guess that's a fact. So after Fridays game I do expect all these " high class" SC fans to message me and say " sir I'm sorry for being such trash and talking so much crap all week. I promise I won't do it again and Thank you so much for showing us what a real football team looks like. Can't wait to be knocked out in the first round AGAIN next year" [/quote] you don't like folks talking trash.... and you post this? ::) :-X ???

[quote name="cougar14" post="1331026" timestamp="1352986943"] [quote author=Cougtalk link=topic=106064.msg1330954#msg1330954 date=1352957267] Little Comparison Cuz I'm Bored. I think that Nederland will stop Dayton's running Game and win because of it. Lets compare... Cougars lost to both teams. Vs. Nederland they had 25 rushes for 53 yards Vs. Dayton they had 42 rushes for 288 Yards Vs. Nederland ypc 2.12 Vs. Dayton ypc 6.86 Lets Compare rushing offenses vs the Cougs Defense. vs. Nederland 46/208 vs dayton 36/149 vs nederland 4.52 ypc vs dayton 4.14 ypc. Difference. Nederland had a 2.4 Positive ratio Dayton had a -2.72 Ratio. Meaning you should expect the differential to be 5+ in the Offense to Defense YPC. Simply put Nederland is going to run up and down and Dayton is going to have to throw the ball to win. or they will try and run it and get destroyed. Either way i see Nederland Winning. If dayton tries to run the ball, they won't go anywhere and if they try and pass it the line won't be able to prevent the pass rush. The Broncos only chance at a win is a couple turnovers on the nederland side of the football field, and there defense playing at an extremely high level. I think Nederland gets an early TD then it's ground and pound from there, making it extremely difficult on the Broncos. If it stays close perhaps Carrancao will win one for Dayton, I just expect Nederland to win both line sof scrimmage and dominate this game physically. on route to a 14 point win. [/quote]I don't think you can use our Ned game for much. We maybe ran 20% of what we run now. First time those kids had heard those plays called in a game situation. Austin only got the ball 12 times and Riordan asked Aston not to run. The first designed play where the qb could run wasn't called until the first district game with BH. We had a bad game against Dayton, [b]but other than that the defense has gotten solid[/b] and I don't think Ned could put up those 200 rushing yards on us now. Even still with that the only put up 21 points and basically got shutout the last three quarters once the D adjusted. I agree with the rest of you assessment though, I've been saying all year that Dayton can't stop the run but the Brono fans tell me "who cares, we're winning, or we give up those yards late." Hopkins isn't the game breaker Walter is but he's bigger and great at finding 5 or 6 yards. Dayton only really ran the ball on us as far as decent teams go, but nearly half of their 130 something yard total came on one run from McBride in the 2nd quarter. I still think Dayton has a chance if they can get the passing game going but I'm not sure Ned's d-line will give Chambers time enough. [/quote] oh..... so now your defense has gotten salty...... I remember you saying before our game that your D would shut us down like they had everyone else in the 2nd half of games. But instead the "worst offense in the district" torched you multiple times. You're entitled to your opinion, but don't do the same thing that you rip others for. And.... if dayton's run D is so bad, Bh should've been able to muster something up right? I mean that's their expertise....

[quote name="liltex" post="1331024" timestamp="1352986674"] Rugby style(coach has abandoned=60 yd punts vs Sc after ::) ;) [/quote] agreed, when Carranco just punts the "regular" he is very consistent. The one he kicked at crunch time against BH, wind aided or not was a bomb! Carranco missed a 43 yarder this year just short into a stiff wind and a 53 yarder last year against BH. The punting was a bad game, but there's no shame in those FG's being a little short.

[quote name="BH93" post="1330911" timestamp="1352949990"] [quote author=dayton link=topic=106086.msg1330899#msg1330899 date=1352949013] [quote author=BH93 link=topic=106086.msg1330896#msg1330896 date=1352948907] [quote author=Lions#80 link=topic=106086.msg1329145#msg1329145 date=1352827144] [quote author=BHFAN link=topic=106086.msg1329113#msg1329113 date=1352825079] [quote author=PlayActionPass link=topic=106086.msg1329044#msg1329044 date=1352819286] Smoking Baby, put down the pipe and the bong and just walk away slowly. You have had way too much, way too early. You are delusional if you think either team will win in a blow out. The Barbies have played three viable teams all season and lost to all three, but played each one close. Livingston has played six playoff teams, lost to five and played all pairly close. Both teams lost to Dayton in a relatively close game. Both teams blew out Lumberton. These are two evenly matched teams. Both play smash mouth football. This will be a hard faught, close game. It will probably turn on a special teams play, a turnover or one big play. Oh yea, and the tradition of loosing in the first round of the playoffs. [/quote] Hmmm... last 4 years Livingston has made the playoffs twice and lost both times in the 1st round, so it looks like you have a tradition of your own ONE AND DONE or in two of those years NONE AND DONE ;D ;D [/quote]Livingston has won more than one playoff game in 4A, you have yet to win 1 in 4A,Yea I'm talking 4A ;D ;D not 3A,2A,1A, or no A, 4A ;D And get your history right don't just stop at 4 years go back a little farther like a year and you'll see we even played in 3rd round, so we know how to win playoff games in 4A, that BH can't say. ;D ;D ;D Oh but you do know ONE AND DONE, don't you. ;D ;D ;D [/quote] Why does everyone keep saying we havent went past the first round in 4A? Our first year in 4A ball we went 3 rounds deep [/quote] Ummmmm.... noooooo....... you went 10-0 in regular season and lost to beaumont central in the playoffs by like 3. You are correct, thanks for the horrible reminder [/quote] ;D ;D haha.

[quote name="BH93" post="1330896" timestamp="1352948907"] [quote author=Lions#80 link=topic=106086.msg1329145#msg1329145 date=1352827144] [quote author=BHFAN link=topic=106086.msg1329113#msg1329113 date=1352825079] [quote author=PlayActionPass link=topic=106086.msg1329044#msg1329044 date=1352819286] Smoking Baby, put down the pipe and the bong and just walk away slowly. You have had way too much, way too early. You are delusional if you think either team will win in a blow out. The Barbies have played three viable teams all season and lost to all three, but played each one close. Livingston has played six playoff teams, lost to five and played all pairly close. Both teams lost to Dayton in a relatively close game. Both teams blew out Lumberton. These are two evenly matched teams. Both play smash mouth football. This will be a hard faught, close game. It will probably turn on a special teams play, a turnover or one big play. Oh yea, and the tradition of loosing in the first round of the playoffs. [/quote] Hmmm... last 4 years Livingston has made the playoffs twice and lost both times in the 1st round, so it looks like you have a tradition of your own ONE AND DONE or in two of those years NONE AND DONE ;D ;D [/quote]Livingston has won more than one playoff game in 4A, you have yet to win 1 in 4A,Yea I'm talking 4A ;D ;D not 3A,2A,1A, or no A, 4A ;D And get your history right don't just stop at 4 years go back a little farther like a year and you'll see we even played in 3rd round, so we know how to win playoff games in 4A, that BH can't say. ;D ;D ;D Oh but you do know ONE AND DONE, don't you. ;D ;D ;D [/quote] Why does everyone keep saying we havent went past the first round in 4A? Our first year in 4A ball we went 3 rounds deep [/quote] Ummmmm.... noooooo....... you went 10-0 in regular season and lost to beaumont central in the playoffs by like 3.

[quote name="ram0524" post="1330858" timestamp="1352946770"] [quote author=dayton link=topic=106064.msg1330855#msg1330855 date=1352946596] [quote author=Brubaker link=topic=106064.msg1330853#msg1330853 date=1352946531] [quote author=BRONX ROX link=topic=106064.msg1330836#msg1330836 date=1352945208] [quote author=Brubaker link=topic=106064.msg1330820#msg1330820 date=1352943489] Word around school??? They rolled that out last Friday, a little scout candy.  Neumann is about to unload the business here, I think he knows the ceiling of this team, they will not step on the field against a team that they can't beat if they play their game.  [b]Could be an interesting ride here.[/b] [/quote] IT STOPS SAT......ENJOY IT WHILE IT LAST  ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D [/quote] Nope, you don't know what's coming.  You were probably at the scrimmage and have that stuck in your head... We comin [/quote] nah... we're familiar. [/quote] This Nederland team is the best Dayton has ever seen. And seems like every couple years or so Barrow changes the offensive scheme. [/quote] ok  ;)

[quote name="Brubaker" post="1330853" timestamp="1352946531"] [quote author=BRONX ROX link=topic=106064.msg1330836#msg1330836 date=1352945208] [quote author=Brubaker link=topic=106064.msg1330820#msg1330820 date=1352943489] Word around school??? They rolled that out last Friday, a little scout candy.  Neumann is about to unload the business here, I think he knows the ceiling of this team, they will not step on the field against a team that they can't beat if they play their game.  [b]Could be an interesting ride here.[/b] [/quote] IT STOPS SAT......ENJOY IT WHILE IT LAST  ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D [/quote] Nope, you don't know what's coming.  You were probably at the scrimmage and have that stuck in your head... We comin [/quote] nah... we're familiar.

[quote name="C O Wilson Bullpups" post="1330486" timestamp="1352924312"] [quote author=dayton link=topic=106064.msg1330042#msg1330042 date=1352897829] Dayton's defense is actually good... not giving us an edge here.... but they are good. If Dayton can score a couple touchdowns (don't care how) and get carranco in range a few times, this will be a great game. [/quote] Our kicker can kick long field goals also... [/quote] yes, I've seen him kick. He's a good one.... I wasn't trying to slight him. ;)

[quote name="SCDAWGS" post="1330359" timestamp="1352917572"] Who you calling Ju??? lock this thread down lol ;D [/quote] ;D ;D ;D ;D

[quote name="DOGS1988" post="1330249" timestamp="1352910647"] wow...that's impressive Good luck to the kid at the next level.  what college is he gonna go to? [/quote] no word yet....

[quote name="CAL2TEX" post="1330242" timestamp="1352910260"] "know" strangers.....  really??  Wow.  Sad grammar coming from the Vindicator newspaper. [/quote] never seen a bad slip like that from Michalsky.... brain cramp i presume.