The Art of the Squeal

[DCT]

2 hours ago, mat said:

Trump under estimated Irans defiance and over estimated our ability to defeat. Irans radical Muslim beliefs will not allow them to give in and they believe it to be a great honor and rewarding to die for Allah. This is not political. It’s like negotiating with devil. 
 

 

Well said.

[Separation Scientist]

10 hours ago, Porter said:

Bruh….The oppressive regime is still in control. The same oppressive regime that slaughtered 40,000 of its own people. You know the people that Trump told to rise up because help was on the way but never showed up. No one is rooting for the Iran we’re are just living in reality. Trump was talked into a stupid war that he wasn’t willing to go all in on to remove the root of the problem. That problem will keep festering till the end of time. Those pot shots you are talking about are keeping the full free flow of the Strait. If I read correctly the other day we have 2 weeks worth of strategic oil reserves left. That’s why Trump wants a deal done quickly. He wasted at least 2 months by running his piehole too much and now he’s in a pickle. He should have went all in when he started this war and it would have probably already been over. He’s getting played like a Charlie Daniel’s Fiddle right now. 

 

Trump ELIMINATED the global nuke threat from Iran, BRUH.  

[mat]

1 hour ago, Separation Scientist said:

Trump ELIMINATED the global nuke threat from Iran, BRUH.  

How many times now?

[Porter]

1 hour ago, Separation Scientist said:

Trump ELIMINATED the global nuke threat from Iran, BRUH.  

Bruh ….I thought he obliterated their nuke capability last summer? Did he really really obliterate them again this summer? Pinky swear?

The same oppressive radical regime is still in charge except they will be 300 billion plus wealthier to keep terrorizing the world after this ceasefire that allows each other to keep shooting at each other is over. 
 

Trump is giving away the farm to exit this stupid war! Go Big or Go Home! 
 

 

[OlDawg]

4 hours ago, Separation Scientist said:

Trump ELIMINATED the global nuke threat from Iran, BRUH.  

Not sure we can say that yet. It’s known now that Iran was developing nuclear material at numerous military sites that were undeclared to the IAEA, or anyone else.

These sites were never inspected under the previous agreement as the Obama Administration gave them that carve out.

Basically, we don’t know what we don’t know at this time.

[Separation Scientist]

We know Irans stockpile was reduced to dust by three bunker busters, We know Irans enrichment labs was reduced to dust by three bunker busters. We know Iran can do much more than lob a hidden drone once ever week or so. We know there is no nuke delivery system because their missiles were reduced to dust by over 10,000 US strikes. Iran cant even fly a small plane now, much less launch a military nuke.   

[OlDawg]

1 hour ago, Separation Scientist said:

We know Irans stockpile was reduced to dust by three bunker busters, We know Irans enrichment labs was reduced to dust by three bunker busters. We know Iran can do much more than lob a hidden drone once ever week or so. We know there is no nuke delivery system because their missiles were reduced to dust by over 10,000 US strikes. Iran cant even fly a small plane now, much less launch a military nuke.   

Here's a pretty reliable think-tank assessment. It helps explain some of the confusion surrounding Iran's remaining capabilities.

As I stated--regardless of propaganda--there's still a lot of unknowns. It doesn't discuss the nuclear issue in this piece. But, there's no verified intelligence assessment on the exact damage to Iran's nuclear program. There are summations. Those summations are based on incomplete intel. The only way to get a true accounting is to topple the regime by whatever means is required where direct intelligence can be gathered.

That's part of the danger of any 'deal.' There's no true baseline without the regime's full cooperation--which won't be coming.

I know "regime change" is a dirty phrase to many--if not most. But--in this case--it will probably be the only way. The Administration needs to make the case for it. Right now, the IRGC is helping make the case to other world leaders themselves. But, there are a lot of everyday people in America who believe something different. They need to be convinced.

Educate them on how the current Iranian regime remaining in place will affect their gas prices, and every other good they purchase. Make it more than just about the nuclear program. Make it about day-to-day life and expenses. Tell them how Iran regulating oil through the Strait will affect their pocketbook. They should have plenty of recent evidence now.

I'll agree it doesn't appear Iran can launch a nuclear warhead at this time. That's as far as I'll go as it relates to their nuke program status. I can guarantee that's as far as any internal intelligence assessment provided to POTUS will go. It won't provide definitive details. That's not how our assessments work unless the info is verified by multiple sources. What he does with the assessments he does receive from there is more of a political statement on his part for his own reasons.

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