It Was Only A Matter Of Time

[thetragichippy]

When a protestor would challenge ICE and get met with lethal force......

From a 22 year DOJ Prosecutor:

"As soon as she accelerated with the officer in front of her, she committed the 20 year version of Sec. 111(b) offense.  At that moment she became a "fleeing felon" and a deadly or dangerous threat to the community that justified the use of deadly force. The case law in favor of the officer is robust and rock solid." 

 

 

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[baddog]

29 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

When a protestor would challenge ICE and get met with lethal force......

From a 22 year DOJ Prosecutor:

"As soon as she accelerated with the officer in front of her, she committed the 20 year version of Sec. 111(b) offense.  At that moment she became a "fleeing felon" and a deadly or dangerous threat to the community that justified the use of deadly force. The case law in favor of the officer is robust and rock solid." 

 

 

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I wonder who is going to protest her death?

[thetragichippy]

4 minutes ago, baddog said:

I wonder who is going to protest her death?

The left and anyone anti-ICE

[baddog]

11 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

The left and anyone anti-ICE

It was rhetorical. Chuckie will be at the top of the list. Him and his cronies will forget all about unarmed Ashli Babbitt.

[baddog]

I’m waiting on body cam videos.

[LumRaiderFan]

The lefty talking head politicians are pathetic, nothing but condemnation of ICE agents for simply doing their jobs.  Not a single one has had anything to say about the violent mobs attacking FEDERAL agents.

They certainly had plenty to say yesterday about the made up “insurrection”.

[tvc184]

It seems like if people keep attacking law enforcement, they are eventually going to get to the find out portion of the equation. 

[Reagan]

1 hour ago, tvc184 said:

It seems like if people keep attacking law enforcement, they are eventually going to get to the find out portion of the equation. 

Therefore, nobody to blame but themselves!

[tvc184]

From a video it looks like she actually hit an agent as she drove toward him. 

[baddog]

5 hours ago, tvc184 said:

From a video it looks like she actually hit an agent as she drove toward him. 

What’s truly sick is that, had she succeeded in running over and killing the officer, the left would be celebrating. We have some sick, backwards, anti-Americans in this country. 

[OlDawg]

It’s a shame, and a waste of life. I don’t understand why people think ICE operations are any different than FBI operations. I seriously doubt if protestors would be blocking an FBI raid.

[baddog]

 

[thetragichippy]

6 hours ago, tvc184 said:

From a video it looks like she actually hit an agent as she drove toward him. 

That is what it looked like to me.  I remember you explaining that it is from the cops perspective and if it warranted deadly force.  The people that said she turned her wheel and didn't mean to hit him.......after looking at 5 different angles from 5 different videos....He roughly had 2 seconds to make a choice

[OlDawg]

According to the Minneapolis City Council, the deceased was out ‘caring for her neighbors’. Her mother told the Star Tribune she wasn’t participating in ICE protests.

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[tvc184]

39 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

That is what it looked like to me.  I remember you explaining that it is from the cops perspective and if it warranted deadly force.  The people that said she turned her wheel and didn't mean to hit him.......after looking at 5 different angles from 5 different videos....He roughly had 2 seconds to make a choice

And…

It doesn’t matter what she intended. The standard for self defense is a reasonable belief. 

And…

Hitting a person with a vehicle and driving is a felony assault and felony leaving the scene in most (or all?) jurisdictions.

 The use of force or deadly force to stop a person who has committed a violent act and is a continued danger to the public is lawful in most (or all?) jurisdictions as upheld by the Supreme Court in Tennessee v. Garner.

 

[bullets13]

I don't think for a minute that she was attempting to run over the ICE officer, but rather she panicked and tried to get away when she realized she was actually going to face some consequences for her dumb behavior. She was likely focused on the officer screaming at her through her window and trying to open her door. that doesn't change the fact that she accelerated directly at an ICE officer and either almost hit him or actually did hit him before he fired. this was clearly a justified shooting. It's wild to me that the mayor is getting away with making up a story where the series of events are completely contradicted by multiple videos of what actually happened. 

[tvc184]

4 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

According to the Minneapolis City Council, the deceased was out ‘caring for her neighbors’. Her mother told the Star Tribune she wasn’t participating in ICE protests.

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She was caring for her neighbor…. by illegally blocking a road? 

The media in the article asks Secretary Noem if the officer fired before or after he was struck (felony assault) by the vehicle. Does it matter?

Maybe one of the great things about being a politician or a member of the media is that you don’t have to make sense. To heck with the law, to heck with a reasonable belief, etc., just spit out nonsense and then usually deflect any follow up questions. 

[tvc184]

3 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

I don't think for a minute that she was attempting to run over the ICE officer, but rather she panicked and tried to get away when she realized she was actually going to face some consequences for her dumb behavior. She was likely focused on the officer screaming at her through her window and trying to open her door. that doesn't change the fact that she accelerated directly at an ICE officer and either almost hit him or actually did hit him before he fired. this was clearly a justified shooting. It's wild to me that the mayor is getting away with making up a story where the series of events are completely contradicted by multiple videos of what actually happened. 

She hit him. The second video clearly shows it.

It’s kind of funny and interesting that you bring up the mayor making up stories. My previous comment before I saw yours brought up the fact that the media and politicians can simply lie and then deflect any follow up.

[OlDawg]

7 minutes ago, tvc184 said:

She was caring for her neighbor…. by illegally blocking a road? 

The media in the article asks Secretary Noem if the officer fired before or after he was struck (felony assault) by the vehicle. Does it matter?

Maybe one of the great things about being a politician or a member of the media is that you don’t have to make sense. To heck with the law, to heck with a reasonable belief, etc., just spit out nonsense and then usually deflect any follow up questions. 

I’m just posting the story, and trying very hard to not say what I really think—which is another liberal Karen who should have been doing something else instead of interfering in a law enforcement operation.

Would she have been interfering in the same way if it was a Minneapolis police car? Probably not.

I want to feel some empathy. But, I’m having a really hard time of it. Sorry.

[tvc184]

55 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

That is what it looked like to me.  I remember you explaining that it is from the cops perspective and if it warranted deadly force.  The people that said she turned her wheel and didn't mean to hit him.......after looking at 5 different angles from 5 different videos....He roughly had 2 seconds to make a choice

Yep… it’s that little bugaboo in the law that says a person has a reasonable belief.

People want it when it refers to them trying to defend themselves, but don’t want it when is the police. 

[baddog]

31 minutes ago, tvc184 said:

Yep… it’s that little bugaboo in the law that says a person has a reasonable belief.

People want it when it refers to them trying to defend themselves, but don’t want it when is the police. 

Will we ever see the agent’s body cam footage? The only videos I have seen show me that she hit him with her vehicle, but his vantage point would be convincing to all the doubters….except the liberals.

[thetragichippy]

34 minutes ago, tvc184 said:

I don't think for a minute that she was attempting to run over the ICE officer, but rather she panicked and tried to get away when she realized she was actually going to face some consequences for her dumb behavior.

Yea - I think she was fleeing versus attempting to run over the agent - BUT, how would he know?.....He was also the same agent back in June that was dragged by a protestors car and needed to he hospitalized......His alert level was probably way up there.....

[tvc184]

1 hour ago, OlDawg said:

I’m just posting the story, and trying very hard to not say what I really think—which is another liberal Karen who should have been doing something else instead of interfering in a law enforcement operation.

Would she have been interfering in the same way if it was a Minneapolis police car? Probably not.

I want to feel some empathy. But, I’m having a really hard time of it. Sorry.

I was agreeing with you.

 I was using your using the article that you posted and my comments were taken from the article accusations and comments.

 The article made the claim of the mayor saying that she was caring for a neighbor. The article cited reporter asking about when shots were fired. 

[tvc184]

37 minutes ago, baddog said:

Will we ever see the agent’s body cam footage? The only videos I have seen show me that she hit him with her vehicle, but his vantage point would be convincing to all the doubters….except the liberals.

I doubt that the Feds will release body cam footage but it wouldn’t matter.

I have already seen a usually complainer make the accusation that no one was in danger. Then when video clearly showed that the woman drove at the officer, the same person ignored the previous claim and started in about the officer had other options. 

If a body cam video shows that he had no time to move, don’t expect an admission of ignorance in the situation and the complaining will go in another tangent. 

[bullets13]

2 hours ago, OlDawg said:

According to the Minneapolis City Council, the deceased was out ‘caring for her neighbors’. Her mother told the Star Tribune she wasn’t participating in ICE protests.

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there's articles from legitimate sources where Good's wife is quoted as blaming herself for making her go to the protests. Her mother is straight up lying.