Government Shutdown

[baddog]

I created a Trump hate thread just for you. All your comments should go there. Your trolling of every thread is childish. When you can’t make a valid point, you laugh…….very childish indeed.

Why not write your senator and tell him/her to vote for the clean CR? It would keep the SNAP funds from being cut off. 

[bullets13]

I'm struggling to understand the mental gymnastics it takes to blame this shutdown on anyone other than the left when the right has already passed a clean CR pushing no republican agenda to open the govt back.

[DCT]

26 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

I'm struggling to understand the mental gymnastics it takes to blame this shutdown on anyone other than the left when the right has already passed a clean CR pushing no republican agenda to open the govt back.

Democratic stance:

• Democrats maintain that Republicans are responsible for the shutdown and have refused to come to the negotiating table in good faith.
• They argue that negotiating over the ACA tax credits is an urgent matter that affects millions of Americans and should not be delayed.
• Democrats point out that increased insurance premiums are already a concern for many Americans during the shutdown and that Republican inaction will cause further harm. 
  
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[Reagan]

11 minutes ago, DCT said:

Democratic stance:

• Democrats maintain that Republicans are responsible for the shutdown and have refused to come to the negotiating table in good faith.
• They argue that negotiating over the ACA tax credits is an urgent matter that affects millions of Americans and should not be delayed.
• Democrats point out that increased insurance premiums are already a concern for many Americans during the shutdown and that Republican inaction will cause further harm. 
  
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Jeffries lies with the best of them!  So...

[bullets13]

21 minutes ago, DCT said:

 

Democratic stance:

• Democrats maintain that Republicans are responsible for the shutdown and have refused to come to the negotiating table in good faith.
• They argue that negotiating over the ACA tax credits is an urgent matter that affects millions of Americans and should not be delayed.
• Democrats point out that increased insurance premiums are already a concern for many Americans during the shutdown and that Republican inaction will cause further harm. 

I appreciate this explanation of the mental gymnastics, but I already knew what it looked like. Are you dizzy yet?

The fact is Democrats are trying to hold the country hostage and force through policy that they can't pass through regular means because their party is such a dumpster fire they've managed to lose control of all branches of government over the last 4 years. They then have the gall to blame republicans for democrats not giving the votes needed to open the government back up, and a lot of their base is dumb enough to believe it. The problem for the left is that the moderate voters are NOT dumb enough to believe it. So while the lunatic fringe may rally around this foolishness and go join a protest and burn something down or whatever it is they do when they're mad, the left is hemorrhaging even more swing and moderate voters through this stunt. The left is like a kid who isn't good enough to win so they take their ball and go home so nobody can play and then blames everyone else for the game ending. 

[DCT]

18 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

I appreciate this explanation of the mental gymnastics, but I already knew what it looked like. Are you dizzy yet?

The fact is Democrats are trying to hold the country hostage and force through policy that they can't pass through regular means because their party is such a dumpster fire they've managed to lose control of all branches of government over the last 4 years. They then have the gall to blame republicans for democrats not giving the votes needed to open the government back up, and a lot of their base is dumb enough to believe it. The problem for the left is that the moderate voters are NOT dumb enough to believe it. So while the lunatic fringe may rally around this foolishness and go join a protest and burn something down or whatever it is they do when they're mad, the left is hemorrhaging even more swing and moderate voters through this stunt. The left is like a kid who isn't good enough to win so they take their ball and go home so nobody can play and then blames everyone else for the game ending. 

How am I the one dizzy when you’re the one with all the questions?  

[baddog]

2 minutes ago, DCT said:

How am I the one dizzy when you’re the one with all the questions?  

The only question he asked was “Are you dizzy yet?” The rest was a very informed post to counter the Jeffries garbage.

[bullets13]

6 minutes ago, DCT said:

How am I the one dizzy when you’re the one with all the questions?  

because you're the one regurgitating the mental gymnast talking points. I thought you might be dizzy from all that spin.

[baddog]

Jeffries voted against the clean CR. He also backs communist Mamdani. You should be careful who you follow…

 

[thetragichippy]

1 hour ago, bullets13 said:

m struggling to understand the mental gymnastics it takes to blame this shutdown on anyone other than the left

May I add the ACA was passed with not one Republican vote, along with 34 Democrats joining Republicans in the NO vote....

ACA is 100% a Democratic problem.

They are holding out to continue to fund this bill that was not as promised. 

[Reagan]

2 hours ago, DCT said:

Democratic stance:

• Democrats maintain that Republicans are responsible for the shutdown and have refused to come to the negotiating table in good faith.
• They argue that negotiating over the ACA tax credits is an urgent matter that affects millions of Americans and should not be delayed.
• Democrats point out that increased insurance premiums are already a concern for many Americans during the shutdown and that Republican inaction will cause further harm. 
  
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Fact!

[DCT]

1 hour ago, Reagan said:

 

Fact!

LIE!

AI Overview

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Undocumented immigrants are not eligible for coverage under the federal Affordable Care Act (ACA), also known as Obamacare

. Eligibility for health insurance through the ACA's federal and state marketplaces is restricted to U.S. citizens and lawfully present immigrants. 

While federal law prohibits undocumented immigrants from enrolling in comprehensive federal health programs, they may have access to other more limited forms of care.

 

Trump would definitely enforce this Federal Law.

[DCT]

3 hours ago, bullets13 said:

because you're the one regurgitating the mental gymnast talking points. I thought you might be dizzy from all that spin.

I placed my comment in other thread.

[Reagan]

 

Why are illegals getting food stamps?!

[thetragichippy]

15 hours ago, DCT said:

Trump would definitely enforce this Federal Law.

Why is it acceptable to you to only enforce the laws you agree with ?

Shouldn't we enforce all laws? 

I speed on occasion......If caught, I expect to pay a fine, I'm not entitled, I l know the risk before I do it.

[UT alum]

On 10/28/2025 at 3:45 PM, Reagan said:

 

Brutal!!

@Big girl  @UT alum  @DCT  @Boyz N Da Hood          Thoughts?!

Still haven’t learned. Anybody can find a poll they like.

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[UT alum]

10 hours ago, Reagan said:

 

Why are illegals getting food stamps?!

 

[thetragichippy]

8 minutes ago, UT alum said:

Still haven’t learned. Anybody can find a poll they like.

Correct, but when the left leaning Washington post tells Democrats to stop holding the government hostage, you may have a problem.....

From the article.....

"The right answer is to reopen the government with a clean funding bill, ideally for a full year, to get food stamps flowing and federal workers back in the office, and then have a debate about ACA subsidies," 

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. "Democrats openly acknowledge that they refuse to do this because it would mean giving up their leverage. If they persist, it could mean families start to go hungry."

 

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[UT alum]

10 hours ago, Reagan said:

 

Why are illegals getting food stamps?!

They aren’t unless they meet the rules, and then it’s a small percentage. Trump gonna br starving Americans. And before you blame Schumer or whoever, the Weasel has all three branches in control. If him or Hand Puppet Mike Johnson knew how to lead, a bill that would pass the Senate would have been submitted. Trump thinks he can starve people and blame the other guy. We’ll see.

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I don’t agree with the thesis, but 1.5 million is 3.4% of total recipients, and the vast majority of those 1.5 million meet current criteria for non citizen qualification.  Want to start some chaos? Get 44,000,000 people hangry.

[UT alum]

4 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

Correct, but when the left leaning Washington post tells Democrats to stop holding the government hostage, you may have a problem.....

From the article.....

"The right answer is to reopen the government with a clean funding bill, ideally for a full year, to get food stamps flowing and federal workers back in the office, and then have a debate about ACA subsidies," 

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. "Democrats openly acknowledge that they refuse to do this because it would mean giving up their leverage. If they persist, it could mean families start to go hungry."

 

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Either go hungry or die for lack of medical care. Those are conservative policy talking points. Democrats are wiling to sacrifice short term pain for long term healthcare policy. Trump doesn’t care. The Post is slowly becoming a mouthpiece for Bezos. I canceled my subscription.

[bullets13]

1 hour ago, UT alum said:

They aren’t unless they meet the rules, and then it’s a small percentage. Trump gonna br starving Americans. And before you blame Schumer or whoever, the Weasel has all three branches in control. If him or Hand Puppet Mike Johnson knew how to lead, a bill that would pass the Senate would have been submitted. Trump thinks he can starve people and blame the other guy. We’ll see.

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I don’t agree with the thesis, but 1.5 million is 3.4% of total recipients, and the vast majority of those 1.5 million meet current criteria for non citizen qualification.  Want to start some chaos? Get 44,000,000 people hangry.

The right is offering a clean bill. The left, who as you point out has zero branches of control, is trying to hold the bill hostage to force liberal policy. But it's the right's fault. It's wild watching you guys spin it. It's gonna hurt y'all in the long run, though. The fringe lunatic left are the only ones actually buying it. I guess it makes sense that the party of entitlement thinks they're entitled to get something they want out of an unrelated bill to keep the government open and then blames everyone else when they don't get it. But hey, keep alienating those swing voters and moderates. Y'all already have the SNAP vote, so the republicans aren't losing anything there. Besides, it's not like most of them can't figure out who's really behind this all anyway.

[Reagan]

1 hour ago, UT alum said:

They aren’t unless they meet the rules, and then it’s a small percentage. Trump gonna br starving Americans. And before you blame Schumer or whoever, the Weasel has all three branches in control. If him or Hand Puppet Mike Johnson knew how to lead, a bill that would pass the Senate would have been submitted. Trump thinks he can starve people and blame the other guy. We’ll see.

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I don’t agree with the thesis, but 1.5 million is 3.4% of total recipients, and the vast majority of those 1.5 million meet current criteria for non citizen qualification.  Want to start some chaos? Get 44,000,000 people hangry.

So, you are OK with "illegal" "non-Americans" getting taxpayer funded food stamps?

[Reagan]

2 hours ago, UT alum said:

Still haven’t learned. Anybody can find a poll they like.

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I give you a conservative poll and you don't like it.  I give you a liberal poll from your own bunch (CNN) and you don't like it.  So...

[thetragichippy]

5 minutes ago, Reagan said:

I give you a conservative poll and you don't like it.  I give you a liberal poll from your own bunch (CNN) and you don't like it.  So...

No one likes losing

[Reagan]

6 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

No one likes losing

So true!