Reagan Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago This new census will NOT include illegal aliens! Excellent! Quote
OlDawg Posted 6 hours ago Report Posted 6 hours ago This will be ruled unconstitutional as it's being described. The official decennial census is to count ALL people--except for Indians not paying taxes (which I don't think there are any nowadays). Asking if someone is a citizen, or permanent legal resident isn't illegal. SCOTUS just said the justification needs to be there. They never ruled it unconstitutional. Whether someone is here temporarily (illegal immigrant) for apportionment/monetary funding benefit will be a SCOTUS question that hasn't been addressed. Logically, temporary residents shouldn't be used for this purpose. This is actually how sanctuary cities receive a great deal of the funding to remain sanctuary cities. If they have to pay themselves, there's much less of an incentive to flout immigration laws. This is actually as big an issue as representation, and doesn't receive near the attention. The Feds dole out around $1.5-2 Trillion every year based on census numbers gathered. If temporary people (which illegal immigrants should be considered) are counted, it skews not only representation and creates under-representation for millions of citizens and legal residents, it also deprives them of funding. This is against their Constitutional rights of equal representation. This will be an interesting case, and will take a while to perculate. Quote
OlDawg Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago How the decennial census affects funding. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
tvc184 Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago 7 hours ago, Reagan said: WOW! …. and gerrymandering. Quote
thetragichippy Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, OlDawg said: This will be ruled unconstitutional as it's being described. The official decennial census is to count ALL people--except for Indians not paying taxes (which I don't think there are any nowadays). Asking if someone is a citizen, or permanent legal resident isn't illegal. SCOTUS just said the justification needs to be there. They never ruled it unconstitutional. Whether someone is here temporarily (illegal immigrant) for apportionment/monetary funding benefit will be a SCOTUS question that hasn't been addressed. Logically, temporary residents shouldn't be used for this purpose. This is actually how sanctuary cities receive a great deal of the funding to remain sanctuary cities. If they have to pay themselves, there's much less of an incentive to flout immigration laws. This is actually as big an issue as representation, and doesn't receive near the attention. The Feds dole out around $1.5-2 Trillion every year based on census numbers gathered. If temporary people (which illegal immigrants should be considered) are counted, it skews not only representation and creates under-representation for millions of citizens and legal residents, it also deprives them of funding. This is against their Constitutional rights of equal representation. This will be an interesting case, and will take a while to perculate. THIS will be a fight. Democrats have a lot to lose. OlDawg 1 Quote
mat Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago Why didn’t he wait on the new census rather than pushing Texas to change district maps? DCT 1 Quote
OlDawg Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 38 minutes ago, thetragichippy said: THIS will be a fight. Democrats have a lot to lose. Republicans would be wise—while they have the majority in both House & Senate—to pass a law that ties Federal funding to a census that only counts legal, permanent residents. Separate it from the decennial census. Funding isn’t mandated by the Constitution in Article 1. thetragichippy 1 Quote
Separation Scientist Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago Either way the Electoral votes will change. Trump is instituting voting safeguards, eliminating fraud, plus people are fleeing blue states like crazy, and red states are gaining. In the next 3.5 years, this effect will be magnified even more. Watch for a mass exodos from NY as soon as the Democrats elect their Communist mayor. Quote
OlDawg Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Separation Scientist said: Either way the Electoral votes will change. Trump is instituting voting safeguards, eliminating fraud, plus people are fleeing blue states like crazy, and red states are gaining. In the next 3.5 years, this effect will be magnified even more. Watch for a mass exodos from NY as soon as the Democrats elect their Communist mayor. The people that will elect him—if it happens—will be the ones that can’t afford to leave. That’s the audience (and brainwashed young people) he’s catering to… It’ll be the typical socialist/communist downward spiral that’s proven out through history everywhere it’s been tried. Of course, there’s always the idiots that believe it’ll be different for them. Quote
thetragichippy Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, OlDawg said: The people that will elect him—if it happens—will be the ones that can’t afford to leave. It amazes me they don't understand this..... It's like they never took a history class Quote
5GallonBucket Posted 35 minutes ago Report Posted 35 minutes ago 3 hours ago, thetragichippy said: It amazes me they don't understand this..... It's like they never took a history class They only see “now”…..not “tomorrow” generation of instant gratification no matter the cost IDIOTS PERIOD Quote
baddog Posted 31 minutes ago Report Posted 31 minutes ago We’d be surprised what is not taught in history class anymore. Quote
baddog Posted 17 minutes ago Report Posted 17 minutes ago 3 hours ago, thetragichippy said: It amazes me they don't understand this..... It's like they never took a history class Here is who he is actually running against…..right out of the dem playbook. You can see the educated people behind him. Quote
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