Texas GOP's New Congressional Map Would Create 5 New Seats!

[Reagan]

And above all -- would move Rep. Crockett’s home out of her district!  Meaning, bye bye!

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[Reagan]

Texas State Dems to FLEE to stop Republicans from redistricting!  Curious, though, why did they run to Illinois?  

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[Reagan]

 

 

[Big girl]

7 hours ago, Reagan said:

And above all -- would move Rep. Crockett’s home out of her district!  Meaning, bye bye!

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Why are they redistricting?

[AggiesAreWe]

30 minutes ago, Big girl said:

Why are they redistricting?

Good question

[baddog]

It’s called gerrymandering. Both sides are guilty.

[AggiesAreWe]

4 minutes ago, baddog said:

It’s called gerrymandering. Both sides are guilty.

I agree.

Just wanted to hear if there was some actual logic to the redistricting other than it being political and one side trying to get an advantage over the other.

[baddog]

15 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I agree.

Just wanted to hear if there was some actual logic to the redistricting other than it being political and one side trying to get an advantage over the other.

I think I read where republicans can gain 5 house seats and it could eliminate some district reps. My post came after yours and I didn’t quote, but it was for big girl. She always seems to misunderstand. 

[OlDawg]

Happens even at a more local level. In 2021, Democrats (with Lina Hidalgo) redrew the county maps where Republicans lost a Harris County Commissioner's seat. That gerrymandering gave Dems a 4-1 majority, and allowed all the tax increases and other ultra progressive policies to be implemented. Now, after already finding a state loophole to be able to raise property taxes by 15%, Hidalgo wants more for free child care for all.

[UT alum]

51 minutes ago, Big girl said:

Why are they redistricting?

 

14 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I agree.

Just wanted to hear if there was some actual logic to the redistricting other than it being political and one side trying to get an advantage over the other.

After each census, districts have to be reapportioned based on new census data. In Texas, according to 2020 data, districts need to be around 766,000 in population to equally apportionment 38 seats. Ten years is the traditional length between redrawing maps to coincide with the census. In 1995 or so Tom Delay led the charge that made Texas the first state to restrict between census dates. Now, Abbot is bowing to Trump to redo Texas. It is a horribly political process that doesn’t have to be.
Several states use independent commissions to ensure districts are competitive, Arizona among them. I like fairness and equity. It would be nice to have districts drawn in a manner that actually  made members compete for seats in the general election rather than be assured of victory after the primary. 

[baddog]

12 minutes ago, UT alum said:

 

After each census, districts have to be reapportioned based on new census data. In Texas, according to 2020 data, districts need to be around 766,000 in population to equally apportionment 38 seats. Ten years is the traditional length between redrawing maps to coincide with the census. In 1995 or so Tom Delay led the charge that made Texas the first state to restrict between census dates. Now, Abbot is bowing to Trump to redo Texas. It is a horribly political process that doesn’t have to be.
Several states use independent commissions to ensure districts are competitive, Arizona among them. I like fairness and equity. It would be nice to have districts drawn in a manner that actually  made members compete for seats in the general election rather than be assured of victory after the primary. 

I hate the word fair. In order to be “fair”, you have to screw the crap out of someone else. Since you are on the side of fairness, how “fair” is it to flood states with illegals in order to increase electoral votes? Illegals shouldn’t count in the census.

I don’t recall republicans leaving in order to block legislation. That’s all dems do, block bills then scream bipartisanship. 

[thetragichippy]

29 minutes ago, UT alum said:

Now, Abbot is bowing to Trump to redo Texas.

Look, another Democratic talking point to portray Trump as a King.....lol 

Trump may support this, but I have heard no quotes from anyone but the media opinions saying it was forced.....

[thetragichippy]

14 minutes ago, baddog said:

I hate the word fair. In order to be “fair”, you have to screw the crap out of someone else. Since you are on the side of fairness, how “fair” is it to flood states with illegals in order to increase electoral votes? Illegals shouldn’t count in the census.

I don’t recall republicans leaving in order to block legislation. That’s all dems do, block bills then scream bipartisanship. 

They all get on their moral high horse when things don't go their way.

I remember when Trump got his 3 Supreme Court justices, Democrats were going to pack the Supreme Court if they got enough of the majority.........

Just wait tho......Thomas is 77 and  Alito is 75.......  If they both retire, Democrats would flip out....lol

[UT alum]

19 minutes ago, baddog said:

I hate the word fair. In order to be “fair”, you have to screw the crap out of someone else. Since you are on the side of fairness, how “fair” is it to flood states with illegals in order to increase electoral votes? Illegals shouldn’t count in the census.

I don’t recall republicans leaving in order to block legislation. That’s all dems do, block bills then scream bipartisanship. 

I thought we were talking about redistricting. Back to debate school, Dog. Maybe a civics refresher, too.

You’d think the floods would take precedence over gerrymandering, but hey, Trump don’t care about floods down here. He’s more concerned with Congressional seats up there.

5 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

They all get on their moral high horse when things don't go their way.

I remember when Trump got his 3 Supreme Court justices, Democrats were going to pack the Supreme Court if they got enough of the majority.........

Just wait tho......Thomas is 77 and  Alito is 75.......  If they both retire, Democrats would fli

[UT alum]

12 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

They all get on their moral high horse when things don't go their way.

I remember when Trump got his 3 Supreme Court justices, Democrats were going to pack the Supreme Court if they got enough of the majority.........

Just wait tho......Thomas is 77 and  Alito is 75.......  If they both retire, Democrats would flip out....lol

We’re talking redistricting, not courts. You are so eat up with partisanship you can’t recognize common sense when you hear it. I’m talking equity, not party. Races should be competitive in every district. Who wins should be up to the candidate, not determined by arbitrary lines drawn to rig the game. Democrats undid it when they had the power. It was wrong then too. 

[baddog]

2 minutes ago, UT alum said:

I thought we were talking about redistricting. Back to debate school, Dog. Maybe a civics refresher, too.

You’d think the floods would take precedence over gerrymandering, but hey, Trump don’t care about floods down here. He’s more concerned with Congressional seats up there.

It’s all about numbers. Stop trying to flaunt that woke UT education. Always questions someone’s ability in order to feel superior……instead of ever answering the question. 

[OlDawg]

We all know this is being done to attempt to achieve a political gain. It may/may not work. Strengthening one area dilutes another. We’ll see…

On a side note, I don’t think it’s a bad idea to relook at numbers for representation in a less than decade increment. Texas population has exploded from new residents. I believe Harris & Travis counties are getting about 150,000/year according to some numbers I saw last week. It may have been more. Ten years is a long time with that type growth.

Uncle Sam can track just about everything we do. Quite sure they have a number they can use almost any year without waiting on a census.

[Reagan]

WOW!  Even CNN is questioning the why the Dems fled to Illinois!  From the article:  

"When you have CNN calling you out, you’re in trouble. Everyone knows their retreat isn’t a principled stand for democracy; it’s a tactical maneuver to preserve political power. They howl about partisan maps in red states while conveniently disappearing into a blue stronghold that perfected the art of gerrymandering.

This is hypocrisy at its most brazen. They want one standard for Republicans — fairness, transparency, reform — while exempting themselves from all of it. And when voters start to notice the double standard? They vanish.

If Democrats truly cared about “fair maps,” they wouldn’t be hiding out in Illinois, the national poster child for redistricting abuse. Their actions betray their motives, exposing this entire charade for what it really is: a desperate, self-serving stunt to cling to power under the phony guise of democratic integrity.

In the end, their retreat to Illinois tells us everything we need to know. This isn’t about democracy; it’s about Democrats. And the louder they scream about fairness, the clearer it becomes: they’re just afraid of losing."

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[Reagan]

Democracy Dies in a Charter Jet: The Great Texas Walkout!  From the article: 

"Once again, Democrats in the great state of Texas are refusing to play a game they've lost at the ballot box. Rather than demonstrating integrity and character by accepting the election results, they are revealing their true colors by fleeing to prevent Republicans from passing a redrawn congressional map.  What the Democrats are doing isn't new, bold, and it sure as hell isn't noble. It's political cowardice wrapped in just enough self-righteousness to impress only news readers and party donors."

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[UT alum]

45 minutes ago, baddog said:

It’s all about numbers. Stop trying to flaunt that woke UT education. Always questions someone’s ability in order to feel superior……instead of ever answering the question. 

I don’t question your ability. I have no doubts about it. There’s nothing woke about what I’m saying. It’s about fair numbers. It’s kind of like Evadale being in the same district with Beaumont United. They’d be playing football, 11 players on each side of the ball, but would it be a fair game? if all districts were drawn 51-49, 52-48, in favor of either party, it would be a political game changer for the betterment of democracy. I ain’t flaunting crap. I dropped out of UT after 2 1/2 years. Don’t try that “elite” talk with me. It’s your idol what loves the class wars.

[baddog]

Hey, I can go back to being a Longhorn fan…..never left.

[UT alum]

1 minute ago, Reagan said:

Democracy Dies in a Charter Jet: The Great Texas Walkout!  From the article: 

"Once again, Democrats in the great state of Texas are refusing to play a game they've lost at the ballot box. Rather than demonstrating integrity and character by accepting the election results, they are revealing their true colors by fleeing to prevent Republicans from passing a redrawn congressional map.  What the Democrats are doing isn't new, bold, and it sure as hell isn't noble. It's political cowardice wrapped in just enough self-righteousness to impress only news readers and party donors."

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It’s called courage. The cowards are the ones in charge. Scared of Trump. Special session was supposed to be cannabis reform. Then the floods happened. They were gonna look into that as well. Then Trump said jump and our local issues go to the back burner. That,my friend, is the height of cowardice. Putting an individual’s demand  above constituent needs. Shameful.

[UT alum]

2 minutes ago, baddog said:

Hey, I can go back to being a Longhorn fan…..never left.

🤘

[thetragichippy]

1 hour ago, UT alum said:

We’re talking redistricting, not courts. You are so eat up with partisanship you can’t recognize common sense when you hear it. I’m talking equity, not party. Races should be competitive in every district. Who wins should be up to the candidate, not determined by arbitrary lines drawn to rig the game. Democrats undid it when they had the power. It was wrong then too. 

The courts was a fair comparison.....

Each side does it and they are not going to stop.  It has been going on as long as politics have been around. You wanting to make it stop when it effects your party is telling...... I'm ate up with partisanship?.....that is comical coming from you....lol

[Big girl]

2 hours ago, baddog said:

It’s all about numbers. Stop trying to flaunt that woke UT education. Always questions someone’s ability in order to feel superior……instead of ever answering the question. 

You must feel inferior.