The BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL - PASSED THE HOUSE

[Big girl]

18 hours ago, baddog said:

Of course that’s where you’d go. Just because I didn’t say the able bodied, you assume the worst. Yes, get up off your butt and contribute. You don’t agree? Of course not.

Why didn't you say the able-bodied, and who do you want to determine if someone is able to work, Trump?

[baddog]

25 minutes ago, Big girl said:

Why didn't you say the able-bodied, and who do you want to determine if someone is able to work, Trump?

Would you have understood and agreed? Of course not. You always need someone to fill in the blanks, hold you by the hand, and walk you through every post. It’s a rather mundane task and you’re never satisfied. 

When you apply for Medicaid, doesn’t someone determine if you are eligible? A doctor’s physical can determine able-bodied or not. Lots of people are poor simply because they are lazy. Do I need to walk you through that?

Of course some of the best doctors in the world couldn’t tell if Biden was fit to work his job, so there’s that.

I am anxiously awaiting your next inane question.

[Big girl]

3 hours ago, baddog said:

Would you have understood and agreed? Of course not. You always need someone to fill in the blanks, hold you by the hand, and walk you through every post. It’s a rather mundane task and you’re never satisfied. 

When you apply for Medicaid, doesn’t someone determine if you are eligible? A doctor’s physical can determine able-bodied or not. Lots of people are poor simply because they are lazy. Do I need to walk you through that?

Of course some of the best doctors in the world couldn’t tell if Biden was fit to work his job, so there’s that.

I am anxiously awaiting your next inane question.

Medicaid is mostly income based. Medicaid Waiver programs are not based on the parents income  and the disabilities are documented by a physician. This is already being done

[OlDawg]

From my reading/understanding, Medicaid eligibility and enforcement is primarily up to the individual states. The Feds basically just provide the funds. I believe it’s supposed to be a 50/50 split. But, some states are taking advantage of some legal loopholes to increase their Fed matching money.

[Reagan]

23 hours ago, Big girl said:

Why didn't you say the able-bodied, and who do you want to determine if someone is able to work, Trump?

The last I heard what was in this bill was the an individual that doesn’t have any dependents and is able-bodied will have to work 80 hours a month.  I don’t think anyone can reasonably object to this!  

[baddog]

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[Reagan]

On 5/24/2025 at 4:02 PM, Big girl said:

Why didn't you say the able-bodied, and who do you want to determine if someone is able to work, Trump?

Speaker Johnson: There Are ‘More Than 1.4 Million Illegal Aliens on Medicaid’!  How much do you think this is costing you and me?  And the salient question is:  Is there anyone deserving Medicaid not getting it because of this fraud?  

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[Big girl]

On 5/24/2025 at 9:04 PM, OlDawg said:

From my reading/understanding, Medicaid eligibility and enforcement is primarily up to the individual states. The Feds basically just provide the funds. I believe it’s supposed to be a 50/50 split. But, some states are taking advantage of some legal loopholes to increase their Fed matching money.

So they need to address that instead of decreasing funding for eveyone

[thetragichippy]

15 hours ago, Big girl said:

So they need to address that instead of decreasing funding for eveyone

I think what you are missing is if Doctors, illegals and people who fraud the system are addressed, there would be no need for the same budget. 

The bill does not decrease funding for everyone.....

Lastly, you are criticizing this bill based on Media coverage - my guess the same media that told you he was running circles around 20 year old's......or that Trump was a Russian asset.....  I posted the entire bill - which my guess, like Obamacare, no one has read......

[OlDawg]

39 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

I think what you are missing is if Doctors, illegals and people who fraud the system are addressed, there would be no need for the same budget. 

The bill does not decrease funding for everyone.....

Lastly, you are criticizing this bill based on Media coverage - my guess the same media that told you he was running circles around 20 year old's......or that Trump was a Russian asset.....  I posted the entire bill - which my guess, like Obamacare, no one has read......

Honestly, I haven’t read it all yet because I’ve gotten to the point where I wait until its final. This Bill is going to have massive changes before/if it gets through.

[thetragichippy]

16 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

Honestly, I haven’t read it all yet because I’ve gotten to the point where I wait until its final. This Bill is going to have massive changes before/if it gets through.

I have not either - I'm taking the words of the writers of the bill versus the opposition. 

I may read it once it is final - 1000 pages is a pretty good investment in time lol

[OlDawg]

1 hour ago, thetragichippy said:

I have not either - I'm taking the words of the writers of the bill versus the opposition. 

I may read it once it is final - 1000 pages is a pretty good investment in time lol

I think it’s important to remember—as much as I may wonder about some aspects—if something doesn’t pass, everyone gets a major tax increase. Especially the middle to lower classes. Add layoffs on top of that because of tax increases and it’s gonna be bigly ugly.

Medicaid coverage will be secondary because people won’t have money to get to the doctor anyway.

Dems ran on letting the tax cuts we have now expire, raising taxes on top of that, and not doing anything to make the government more efficient. Then, they have the audacity to gripe about misuse of Medicaid?

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