Has ALL of the Kountze talent moved up the road to Silsbee? What has happened in Kountze?

[Kountzer]

  On 3/11/2021 at 9:52 PM, TrojanMoJo said:

My cousins no more Hancocks. Tremaine & Keithan Hancock assistant coaches for Beaumont United

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That's a problem for places like Kountze and Silsbee.  All the talent, knowledge and genetics tends to move to the big city like Beaumont.  

[Kountzer]

Way back in the day the two big names in Kountze were Manning and Brannon.  Y'all too young to know anything about that.  

[TrojanMoJo]

  On 3/12/2021 at 3:10 AM, Kountzer said:

Way back in the day the two big names in Kountze were Manning and Brannon.  Y'all too young to know anything about that.  

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Yes my daddy went to Kountze. He talked about Manning. He use to play basketball in the backyard against Manning

[TrojanMoJo]

  On 3/12/2021 at 2:34 AM, aTmfan06 said:

Isn’t josh still coaching in Louisiana?

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No he is overseas with his family 

[Kountzer]

  On 3/12/2021 at 3:12 AM, TrojanMoJo said:

Yes my daddy went to Kountze. He talked about Manning. He use to play basketball in the backyard against Manning

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Back then they mostly had kill the grass, dirt court basketball.  No gyms, not cement courts...those came later.  As far as I know, in the modern era, that is when it all started in Kountze.  Them hoopers back then could play!

[TrojanMoJo]

  On 3/12/2021 at 3:24 AM, Kountzer said:

Back then they mostly had kill the grass, dirt court basketball.  No gyms, not cement courts...those came later.  As far as I know, in the modern era, that is when it all started in Kountze.  Them hoopers back then could play!

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Your right they could @Kountzer

[whsalum]

  On 3/12/2021 at 3:10 AM, Kountzer said:

Way back in the day the two big names in Kountze were Manning and Brannon.  Y'all too young to know anything about that.  

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Anthony and James .Watched then in a warm up game in the Montagne many years ago. They could play. 

[Kountzer]

  On 3/12/2021 at 4:59 AM, whsalum said:

Anthony and James .Watched then in a warm up game in the Montagne many years ago. They could play. 

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By the time the Montagne was built they were old men.

[BMTSoulja1]

  On 3/12/2021 at 3:07 AM, Kountzer said:

That's a problem for places like Kountze and Silsbee.  All the talent, knowledge and genetics tends to move to the big city like Beaumont.  

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That’s false.  Maybe you mean the other way around...  

[Tigers94]

Silsbee does a decent job of keeping their genetics in town. A lot of folks move back when it's time settle down and raise a family. That's why you see a lot of the same last names on teams year in and year out.

Of course some of that may stray a little ways down the road every once in while, but that's something that works in both directions.

[whsalum]

  On 3/12/2021 at 5:27 AM, Kountzer said:

By the time the Montagne was built they were old men.

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Where was the warm up game I’m thinking of? They played a very good much larger school in Beaumont as part of a 2 or 3 game card. They lost but in a very respectable game considering the ranking of their opponent. I remember Manning a very slim guy with a Afro. They both could play. They are a little younger than I am so they still can’t be old men 😂😂

[Kountzer]

They played a highly rated Houston Wheatley team in Beaumont once. They held their own in the game.  We may be talking about the same game. All this occured around 1969-1971 somewhere around then.

[whsalum]

  On 3/12/2021 at 8:00 PM, Kountzer said:

They played a highly rated Houston Wheatley team in Beaumont once. They held their own in the game.  We may be talking about the same game. All this occured around 1969-1971 somewhere around then.

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That’s it. They are about my age. There was another guy down there a year or so after that that could fill it up. I think his name was Wesley Shaw but I’m not 100% sure on that one. We use to go down there and play some in the summer 

[Kountzer]

  On 3/12/2021 at 9:42 PM, whsalum said:

That’s it. They are about my age. There was another guy down there a year or so after that that could fill it up. I think his name was Wesley Shaw but I’m not 100% sure on that one. We use to go down there and play some in the summer 

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I missed that game.  We had no internet or twitter back then.  News traveled slow.  But you were around, you know.

[BADSANTA]

  On 3/12/2021 at 12:50 PM, Tigers94 said:

Silsbee does a decent job of keeping their genetics in town. A lot of folks move back when it's time settle down and raise a family. That's why you see a lot of the same last names on teams year in and year out.

Of course some of that may stray a little ways down the road every once in while, but that's something that works in both directions.

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Agree

[Kountzer]

  On 3/12/2021 at 7:25 PM, whsalum said:

Where was the warm up game I’m thinking of? They played a very good much larger school in Beaumont as part of a 2 or 3 game card. They lost but in a very respectable game considering the ranking of their opponent. I remember Manning a very slim guy with a Afro. They both could play. They are a little younger than I am so they still can’t be old men 😂😂

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Silsbee played a similar warm up game against Wheatley.  It was played in the same gym.  The results were not similar. Silsbee got beat by double digits.  The Silsbee coach at the time, coach Montgomery, used that slow down walk it up approach.  Wheatley was running trapping and freewheeling. I saw Wheatley star Eddie Owens grab a rebound with one hand, he just held it, palmed the ball, with one hand.  Yates was not the first team in HOuston with that style, not by a long shot.  I went to that game. I don't remember exactly where it was played.  I want to say it was played at the old Beaumont high school.  That was so long ago.  By the time the Montagne center was built guys like Manning & Brannon weren't old, but they were well past playing high school basketball.

[Kountzer]

  On 3/12/2021 at 10:44 PM, BADSANTA said:

Agree

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Some of what I say about genetics & all that is tongue and cheek humor.  Beaumont is natural draw: good shopping nice housing and subdivisions.  I know so many people that have moved to Beaumont, or like me, to Houston.  Hopefully Silsbee does what it has to do to carry on.  Beaumont?  It's aiight.  I'm not passionate about the place, but I respect it.  

[whsalum]

  On 3/13/2021 at 4:53 PM, Kountzer said:

Silsbee played a similar warm up game against Wheatley.  It was played in the same gym.  The results were not similar. Silsbee got beat by double digits.  The Silsbee coach at the time, coach Montgomery, used that slow down walk it up approach.  Wheatley was running trapping and freewheeling. I saw Wheatley star Eddie Owens grab a rebound with one hand, he just held it, palmed the ball, with one hand.  Yates was not the first team in HOuston with that style, not by a long shot.  I went to that game. I don't remember exactly where it was played.  I want to say it was played at the old Beaumont high school.  That was so long ago.  By the time the Montagne center was built guys like Manning & Brannon weren't old, but they were well past playing high school basketball.

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Yes sir time gets away from me. The Montagne opened in 83. Manning and Brannon were in their 30’s by then. I can remember watching the game from up high around mid court but I can’t remember the gym. I think Coach Tate was the Coach in those days and his assistant was Coach Wilson. 

[BADSANTA]

Didn't Andre Boute graduate from Kountze and won state there in like 72 or 73?

[AggiesAreWe]

  On 3/14/2021 at 2:43 PM, BADSANTA said:

Didn't Andre Boute graduate from Kountze and won state there in like 72 or 73?

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Boutte graduated from Beaumont Hebert. He played for Coach Fred Williams at Hebert when they won state titles in '80 and '81.

[BADSANTA]

  On 3/14/2021 at 3:13 PM, AggiesAreWe said:

Boutte graduated from Beaumont Hebert. He played for Coach Fred Williams at Hebert when they won state titles in '80 and '81.

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Ok my bad