baddog Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 7:58 PM, 5GallonBucket said: They don’t get it. The killing of a baby is so far removed from them....”we just vote....we aren’t the ones actually killing them” they re so nonchalant about it. their conscience has been manipulated to think nothing of it. Deep down you can’t be a decent person if your ok with killing babies and vote in such a way. In my experiences most dems won’t talk or discuss it in face to face conversation because they know how it makes them look. Expand Ask any lib friends if their wives ever had a miscarriage......did they cry or were they even saddened.....WHY? Quote
CardinalBacker Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 7:58 PM, 5GallonBucket said: They don’t get it. The killing of a baby is so far removed from them....”we just vote....we aren’t the ones actually killing them” they re so nonchalant about it. their conscience has been manipulated to think nothing of it. Deep down you can’t be a decent person if your ok with killing babies and vote in such a way. In my experiences most dems won’t talk or discuss it in face to face conversation because they know how it makes them look. Expand When Republicans get away from the abortion issue, they'll start winning more elections. It's just a bunch of mean-spirited old people trying to tell others what to do. I think abortion is immoral for me, but not everyone lives up to my high standards, nor should they have to. I've got a bigger problem with capital punishment than I do with abortion. How many of y'all so-called "pro-lifers" support the execution of humans by the state? InMAGAWeTrust 1 Quote
baddog Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 8:49 PM, CardinalBacker said: When Republicans get away from the abortion issue, they'll start winning more elections. It's just a bunch of mean-spirited old people trying to tell others what to do. I think abortion is immoral for me, but not everyone lives up to my high standards, nor should they have to. I've got a bigger problem with capital punishment than I do with abortion. How many of y'all so-called "pro-lifers" support the execution of humans by the state? Expand I prefer to have them drawn and quartered. Abortion and executing criminals have absolutely nothing to do with each other, although some libs like to try. Abortion is taking an innocent life. No argument there. A capital murderer commits a heinous crime and has to fit into the capital offense category. He knew going in what the punishment was but committed the crime anyway. Cry the next time someone in your family has a miscarriage. That would be fake crocodile tears on your part. Let someone murder anybody close to you and let me know your true feelings then. Quote
5GallonBucket Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 8:49 PM, CardinalBacker said: When Republicans get away from the abortion issue, they'll start winning more elections. It's just a bunch of mean-spirited old people trying to tell others what to do. I think abortion is immoral for me, but not everyone lives up to my high standards, nor should they have to. I've got a bigger problem with capital punishment than I do with abortion. How many of y'all so-called "pro-lifers" support the execution of humans by the state? Expand So your equating an innocent fully dependent baby to a criminal who has committed such a heinous crime to receive the death penalty. my oh my and to answer your question. Yes I do support it. Go ahead and try to rationalize it. giving up morals is exactly how we have come to a majority of people accepting abortion. Quote
CardinalBacker Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 9:16 PM, baddog said: I prefer to have them drawn and quartered. Abortion and executing criminals have absolutely nothing to do with each other, although some libs like to try. Abortion is taking an innocent life. No argument there. A capital murderer commits a heinous crime and has to fit into the capital offense category. He knew going in what the punishment was but committed the crime anyway. Cry the next time someone in your family has a miscarriage. That would be fake crocodile tears on your part. Let someone murder anybody close to you and let me know your true feelings then. Expand Why would you wish that on someone? Kind, compassionate, Christian that you are. Quote
baddog Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 9:18 PM, CardinalBacker said: Why would you wish that on someone? Kind, compassionate, Christian that you are. Expand It is a subject that has to be made personal. If you are always talking about “the other guy” you can’t have a true emotional attachment to the seriousness of the matter. I also never wished it upon you. Me personally, in my family there have been several miscarriages, and it was cried about as if it had been born. I am compassionate. It’s why this subject upsets me so much. 5GallonBucket 1 Quote
InMAGAWeTrust Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 9:18 PM, CardinalBacker said: Why would you wish that on someone? Kind, compassionate, Christian that you are. Expand These guys are absolute bonkers lol, no wonder our country is as divided as ever Quote
CardinalBacker Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 9:21 PM, baddog said: It is a subject that has to be made personal. If you are always talking about “the other guy” you can’t have a true emotional attachment to the seriousness of the matter. I also never wished it upon you. Me personally, in my family there have been several miscarriages, and it was cried about as if it had been born. I am compassionate. It’s why this subject upsets me so much. Expand Here's the problem... you are just one man, with one opinion. But you wish to force your views on EVERYONE. You have no qualms about executing men who might be innocent of any crime (it happens, you know)... but other peoples' unborn children are of unspeakable importance to you. What about those who feel that meat is murder? Should we listen to them and outlaw the consumption of any meat products? That's basically what you are trying to do... or at least what it sounds like to over half of Americans that are alive today and born since abortion was legalized in '73. Politicians like Donald Trump (who has personally paid for numerous abortions himself) lock up the votes of zealots like yourself by claiming to be pro-life. Unfortunately, they also alienate even more voters who aren't so concerned about dictating private matters in others' lives. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
baddog Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 9:36 PM, CardinalBacker said: Here's the problem... you are just one man, with one opinion. But you wish to force your views on EVERYONE. You have no qualms about executing men who might be innocent of any crime (it happens, you know)... but other peoples' unborn children are of unspeakable importance to you. What about those who feel that meat is murder? Should we listen to them and outlaw the consumption of any meat products? That's basically what you are trying to do... or at least what it sounds like to over half of Americans that are alive today and born since abortion was legalized in '73. Politicians like Donald Trump (who has personally paid for numerous abortions himself) lock up the votes of zealots like yourself by claiming to be pro-life. Unfortunately, they also alienate even more voters who aren't so concerned about dictating private matters in others' lives. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Expand I have never approved of abortion except in cases of rape or incest. No, not even Trump’s. Stop comparing convicted capital murderers to unborn innocent kids. They don’t even compare with me and never will. Why should a liberal who supports abortion cry over a miscarriage. You can’t answer that. Butchering cows for meat is murder? I am a carnivore and would rather have someone kill, butcher, and pack it for me. What a lame diversion from the reality of reaching in, pulling out a leg this time, going back for the arms, then the head during an abortion. Did you never see the interview with the abortion doctor? I force nothing on anyone. If I did, there would be no abortion. I try to make people have conscience, which is hard nowadays, since people have no fear of God and only think about themselves. Think what you want about me, but this is how I truly feel. Chester86 1 Quote
CardinalBacker Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 9:46 PM, baddog said: I have never approved of abortion except in cases of rape or incest. No, not even Trump’s. Stop comparing convicted capital murderers to unborn innocent kids. They don’t even compare with me and never will. Why should a liberal who supports abortion cry over a miscarriage. You can’t answer that. Butchering cows for meat is murder? I am a carnivore and would rather have someone kill, butcher, and pack it for me. What a lame diversion from the reality of reaching in, pulling out a leg this time, going back for the arms, then the head during an abortion. Did you never see the interview with the abortion doctor? I force nothing on anyone. If I did, there would be no abortion. I try to make people have conscience, which is hard nowadays, since people have no fear of God and only think about themselves. Think what you want about me, but this is how I truly feel. Expand Oh, I have no doubt about how you feel. But why is it your business to shame young women who feel as if abortion is their best option? YOUR opinion on the matter should not come into the question. That's between her, the young man, the unborn child, and their maker. Did you notice that you weren't included in that group? Because it's none of your business. Why would you want an unwanted child to be born into a life of suffering, parented by a mother that was forced to bear him? I'll go one step further.... there was a noticeable drop in the rate of violent crime in the united states in the 1990s. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up There was a lot of discussion at the time.... was it caused by a reduction in lead paint used in baby furniture? Was it some spiritual awakening? Or was it the fact that a whole of unwanted children aborted after 1973 (Roe v Wade) didn't grow up to be criminals? Just a thought. Quote
Chester86 Posted January 19, 2021 Author Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 9:29 PM, InMAGAWeTrust said: These guys are absolute bonkers lol, no wonder our country is as divided as ever Expand Hypocrisy and poppycock; but go on believing that if you wish. Quote
baddog Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 10:05 PM, CardinalBacker said: Oh, I have no doubt about how you feel. But why is it your business to shame young women who feel as if abortion is their best option? YOUR opinion on the matter should not come into the question. That's between her, the young man, the unborn child, and their maker. Did you notice that you weren't included in that group? Because it's none of your business. Why would you want an unwanted child to be born into a life of suffering, parented by a mother that was forced to bear him? I'll go one step further.... there was a noticeable drop in the rate of violent crime in the united states in the 1990s. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up There was a lot of discussion at the time.... was it caused by a reduction in lead paint used in baby furniture? Was it some spiritual awakening? Or was it the fact that a whole of unwanted children aborted after 1973 (Roe v Wade) didn't grow up to be criminals? Just a thought. Expand No one knows what a kid will grow up and be. That’s part of the miracle of life. I think every woman considering abortion should have to view a real abortion. That would change 99% of their minds. The excuse of the poor woman not wanting to bring a child up in poverty is so lame. Doesn't’ she know there are free clinics where she can obtain free birth control, or she could practice abstinence.....yeah, I know, all of these women have that weak moment where anything goes. How responsible they are. How is it not my business to save an innocent life, but it is your business to see that a murder is not put to death. Who the heck are you? Ever heard of adoption? Quote
CardinalBacker Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 10:17 PM, baddog said: No one knows what a kid will grow up and be. That’s part of the miracle of life. I think every woman considering abortion should have to view a real abortion. That would change 99% of their minds. The excuse of the poor woman not wanting to bring a child up in poverty is so lame. Doesn't’ she know there are free clinics where she can obtain free birth control, or she could practice abstinence.....yeah, I know, all of these women have that weak moment where anything goes. How responsible they are. How is it not my business to save an innocent life, but it is your business to see that a murder is not put to death. Who the heck are you? Ever heard of adoption? Expand Just out of curiosity.... since your family lost a couple due to miscarriage, y'all certainly went down to the pound and picked up a few disadvantaged youths of a different hue, didn't you? Quote
baddog Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 10:19 PM, CardinalBacker said: Just out of curiosity.... since your family lost a couple due to miscarriage, y'all certainly went down to the pound and picked up a few disadvantaged youths of a different hue, didn't you? Expand Just out of curiosity, since you obviously have no answer. No, they tried again. Is this where I say NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS? My conscience is clear. Can the abortion momma say the same? Your family ever have a miscarriage or abortion? Quote
CardinalBacker Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 10:56 PM, baddog said: Just out of curiosity, since you obviously have no answer. No, they tried again. Is this where I say NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS? My conscience is clear. Can the abortion momma say the same? Your family ever have a miscarriage or abortion? Expand Nah, man.... you're the one that feels like you should have a say in everybody else's business. The correct(?) thing to do is tell your family how you feel about the issue, then shut up. It's just like gay marriage (which you oppose). What difference is it to you? You just want to force other people to live at the same standards of decency that you do... except for Trump, of course, because of the economy. How convenient for you. There's no difference between a leftie telling me that my money isn't mine and should be handed over to the government and a righty telling me I shouldn't be able get an abortion. It's all about projecting our beliefs onto others.... and both of you are wrong. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 8:49 PM, CardinalBacker said: When Republicans get away from the abortion issue, they'll start winning more elections. It's just a bunch of mean-spirited old people trying to tell others what to do. I think abortion is immoral for me, but not everyone lives up to my high standards, nor should they have to. I've got a bigger problem with capital punishment than I do with abortion. How many of y'all so-called "pro-lifers" support the execution of humans by the state? Expand I do, because it doesn’t even compare. The Bible in Hebrew translates as Thou shall not murder, translated, thou shall not take an innocent life. I guess conservative pro-lifers should give up on trying to save unborn lives just to get more votes, huh. Sounds likely a great plan for everyone, except they baby. Quote
baddog Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 11:10 PM, CardinalBacker said: Nah, man.... you're the one that feels like you should have a say in everybody else's business. The correct(?) thing to do is tell your family how you feel about the issue, then shut up. It's just like gay marriage (which you oppose). What difference is it to you? You just want to force other people to live at the same standards of decency that you do... except for Trump, of course, because of the economy. How convenient for you. There's no difference between a leftie telling me that my money isn't mine and should be handed over to the government and a righty telling me I shouldn't be able get an abortion. It's all about projecting our beliefs onto others.... and both of you are wrong. Expand Well, I don’t shut up for anyone. Why should I tell my family anything? They know how I feel, and decent people (your term to exclude anyone who disagrees) aren’t promiscuous, or, at least practice safe sex. Gee, I sure am glad you don’t practice projecting your beliefs on anyone. Lmao. Your analogies lack cohesion. I guess you need to shut up now. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 11:10 PM, CardinalBacker said: Nah, man.... you're the one that feels like you should have a say in everybody else's business. The correct(?) thing to do is tell your family how you feel about the issue, then shut up. It's just like gay marriage (which you oppose). What difference is it to you? You just want to force other people to live at the same standards of decency that you do... except for Trump, of course, because of the economy. How convenient for you. There's no difference between a leftie telling me that my money isn't mine and should be handed over to the government and a righty telling me I shouldn't be able get an abortion. It's all about projecting our beliefs onto others.... and both of you are wrong. Expand How does me opposing gay marriage affect a gay couples life? Quote
CardinalBacker Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 11:32 PM, baddog said: Well, I don’t shut up for anyone. Why should I tell my family anything? They know how I feel, and decent people (your term to exclude anyone who disagrees) aren’t promiscuous, or, at least practice safe sex. Gee, I sure am glad you don’t practice projecting your beliefs on anyone. Lmao. Your analogies lack cohesion. I guess you need to shut up now. Expand I’ve got a feeling somebody never practiced much seggs, safe or unsafe. Quote
CardinalBacker Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 11:38 PM, LumRaiderFan said: How does me opposing gay marriage affect a gay couples life? Expand If you had your way, they wouldn’t be able to marry. Quote
CardinalBacker Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 11:32 PM, baddog said: Well, I don’t shut up for anyone. Why should I tell my family anything? They know how I feel, and decent people (your term to exclude anyone who disagrees) aren’t promiscuous, or, at least practice safe sex. Gee, I sure am glad you don’t practice projecting your beliefs on anyone. Lmao. Your analogies lack cohesion. I guess you need to shut up now. Expand So you won’t tell your own family, but you’ll tell everybody else? Makes perfect sense. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 11:39 PM, CardinalBacker said: If you had your way, they wouldn’t be able to marry. Expand Wrong....again. I oppose lots of things that I wouldn’t push on anyone. Don’t want it happening to me. Quote
baddog Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 11:38 PM, CardinalBacker said: I’ve got a feeling somebody never practiced much seggs, safe or unsafe. Expand Always the deflection. Most abortions are nothing more than birth control because of promiscuous women practicing unsafe sex. They could be transmitting numerous diseases that is of no concern, but if someone dies from Covid disease then someone is to blame. See how stupid some analogies can get? You have no answer for your side of abortion, exhibited by your meandering analogies. You had to practice? Quote
baddog Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 11:40 PM, CardinalBacker said: So you won’t tell your own family, but you’ll tell everybody else? Makes perfect sense. Expand Can you read? Quote
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