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Hagar

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  On 8/3/2016 at 11:16 PM, BS Wildcats said:

But we might offend someone, and our potus will have to apologize for the US trying to protect its own soil.  It is time to end the political correctness crap.

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Yep, Clint Eastwood is right about this generation.

(see link under Trump Unbelievable)

BS Wildcats

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  On 8/3/2016 at 11:52 PM, westend1 said:

 

serious question.  Should we amend the constitution so we can ban Muslims from congregating and shut down Mosques?  Constitutionally, can we do it now?

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Don't know that we need to amend the Constitution, Obama has used executive decision multiple times.  Are you against shutting them down if they are promoting harm and murder upon Americans?

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  On 8/4/2016 at 12:09 AM, BS Wildcats said:

Don't know that we need to amend the Constitution, Obama has used executive decision multiple times.  Are you against shutting them down if they are promoting harm and murder upon Americans?

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We must be careful not to "offend" anyone.  Apparently that is more important than preserving life here.

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Only need to shut them down if they are preaching hate against US and stoking the radicals to act but to answer your question , not as long as we have a democrat in office they want voters more than they want to keep anyone safe over here. JMO

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  On 8/4/2016 at 12:09 AM, BS Wildcats said:

Don't know that we need to amend the Constitution, Obama has used executive decision multiple times.  Are you against shutting them down if they are promoting harm and murder upon Americans?

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So, you have no problem using executive action, even if it violates the constitution?   If they preach hate, I am personally ok with it.  But, I thought true conservatives were against this sort of thing.

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  On 8/4/2016 at 1:51 AM, westend1 said:

So, you have no problem using executive action, even if it violates the constitution?   If they preach hate, I am personally ok with it.  But, I thought true conservatives were against this sort of thing.

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Absolutely am against it.  Was being sarcastic about executive action.  As for shutting down Mosques that are teaching violence and terrorism, get after it.

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  On 8/3/2016 at 11:52 PM, westend1 said:

 

serious question.  Should we amend the constitution so we can ban Muslims from congregating and shut down Mosques?  Constitutionally, can we do it now?

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Just curious. Where in the Constitution does it say anything about shutting down mosque? or a church, for that matter? Certainly we all know you can't do either just because they are this religion or that......I think westboro should be shut down as well, along with the KKK, black panthers, hells angels, banditos, any many others...if they represent gangs, terror, hate...no amendment is needed for that. These groups are not practicing free speech...they are practicing hate through their speech.

 

On another note....pertaining to muslims. It is already a law, and Constitutional for the POTUS to be able to ban ANYONE for ANY REASON if he feels they are a threat to Americans. He can do this even against the "protected" religion, sex, disabled, ect. ..and he can do it to entire groups...even if it's only a few....even though both parties have trashed Trump for saying he would ban ALL muslins in the beginning. ...his handlers screwed this up, by not immediately responding with said law and making both parties look stupid.

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  On 8/4/2016 at 12:30 PM, new tobie said:

Obama has used executive order less the last two presidents

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It's not always about how many or few times used....but the context in which it is used. obama is certainly within his power to use executive orders...but I would venture to guess he has used it more controversially than any other, perhaps even unconstitutionally, so says the high court.

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  On 8/4/2016 at 12:51 PM, CraigS said:

It's not always about how many or few times used....but the context in which it is used. obama is certainly within his power to use executive orders...but I would venture to guess he has used it more controversially than any other, perhaps even unconstitutionally, so says the high court.

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If obama found a cure for cancer you guys would find a problem with it.

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  On 8/4/2016 at 11:38 AM, CraigS said:

Just curious. Where in the Constitution does it say anything about shutting down mosque? or a church, for that matter? Certainly we all know you can't do either just because they are this religion or that......I think westboro should be shut down as well, along with the KKK, black panthers, hells angels, banditos, any many others...if they represent gangs, terror, hate...no amendment is needed for that. These groups are not practicing free speech...they are practicing hate through their speech.

 

On another note....pertaining to muslims. It is already a law, and Constitutional for the POTUS to be able to ban ANYONE for ANY REASON if he feels they are a threat to Americans. He can do this even against the "protected" religion, sex, disabled, ect. ..and he can do it to entire groups...even if it's only a few....even though both parties have trashed Trump for saying he would ban ALL muslins in the beginning. ...his handlers screwed this up, by not immediately responding with said law and making both parties look stupid.

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Standard operating procedure from the left...we will not do anything to stop terrorism...we won't stem the tide of illegals from all countries that aren't vetted coming into the country, in fact we want to increase that number...even when you have other countries that have regretted going down the same road and are now paying the price and trying to figure out how to handle it.

We won't profile because as stevenash pointed out earlier, it is more important to not offend anyone than it is to protect the American people.

The left won't do basically anything about this problem but complains when someone else proposes to.

Reagan had to come in and clean up Carters's weakness...Bush had to come in and clean up Clinton's weakness, and now someone has to clean up Obama's weakness...Trump may not get it done but Clinton won't for sure.

Weakness always allows problems to start and/or get worse but hates it when strength is used to fix them...always.

Recent history has shown that if you want to fix Democrat's national security problems...elect a Republican...this cannot be refuted.

CraigS

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  On 8/4/2016 at 12:55 PM, new tobie said:

If obama found a cure for cancer you guys would find a problem with it.

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it's not his cure's that we have a problem with....it's his causes. He hasn't cured cancer (racial tensions) he has created a new level of cancer (racial tensions). The absolute worse we've seen in decades. whereas you see we "have a problem with it" we see you "give him a pass" for  the same reasons you accuse us.....is either better than the other?

 

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  On 8/4/2016 at 12:58 PM, CraigS said:

it's not his cure's that we have a problem with....it's his causes. He hasn't cured cancer (racial tensions) he has created a new level of cancer (racial tensions). The absolute worse we've seen in decades. whereas you see we "have a problem with it" we see you "give him a pass" for  the same reasons you accuse us.....is either better than the other?

 

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Racial tensions have been here over 100 years. Racial problems have never gotten better with people 40 and above. The young folk are mixing races at record rates though. The younger generation dont care about hate quite as much as their parents and grandparents. Obama is not to blame.

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  On 8/4/2016 at 1:05 PM, new tobie said:

Racial tensions have been here over 100 years. Racial problems have never gotten better with people 40 and above. The young folk are mixing races at record rates though. The younger generation dont care about hate quite as much as their parents and grandparents. Obama is not to blame.

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What does this have to do with France and Muslims?

Obama will never even search for a cancer cure. It would be good for America.

CraigS

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  On 8/4/2016 at 1:05 PM, new tobie said:

Racial tensions have been here over 100 years. Racial problems have never gotten better with people 40 and above. The young folk are mixing races at record rates though. The younger generation dont care about hate quite as much as their parents and grandparents. Obama is not to blame.

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And that attitude is why he gets away with it. You are quick to blame history...and can't (won't) see the present. As the saying goes........you can't see the forest for the trees.

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