Hagar Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 15 minutes ago, gohornets23 said: sorry...don't get much time in front of the computer yes I'd have no problem with a transgender woman going to the same bathroom as my daughter (who is four) at the same time I'd be much more wary of letting my son who (7) spend time alone with a priest Lol, you must not spend much time, you didn't answer the question. As for as your prejudice comment about Priest, the percentage of Priest identified as pedofiles, is lower than the general population as a whole. So, you accept the transgender over the Priest, how sad. I will pray for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 18 hours ago, stevenash said: Okay Lum, I'll give you my answer. All of us are human and one of our COMMON DENOMINATORS is the uneasiness to change. You people have a history of being scared of change. Yall get bent out of shape and (sometimes) carry things too far. Your people allow fear , prejudice, etc to rule your thoughts and actions. So , you are saying because a person who is physically a man but identifies a woman is going to rape little girls in the bathroom? Hmmm, your logic sounds eerily familiar to some other past transgenders ...err... transgressions recorded throughout history. IT WOULD APPEAR YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT MORE THAN BATHROOM LINES!!! YEP!! CHANGE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 9 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: What a shame...you have no problem with it, don't seem to worry if your daughter would. That's where my concern lies (with the kids) and it seems Dr. Cavness as well. Have to agree with Whoa...awful strange that you feel your kids are safer in the presence of someone obviously confused about what they are than a Priest. Remember LRF, your question involved a transgender man, not a transgender women. We'll have to wait for that answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 22 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said: These guys seem to be only concerned with the transgender...not worried at all how it will affect the children. Grown men and grown women (transgender or not) have no business in a bathroom or locker room with children of the opposite sex...period. Speaking of women in the locker room, I seem to remember you people were a little upset about that issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, REBgp said: Lol, you must not spend much time, you didn't answer the question. As for as your prejudice comment about Priest, the percentage of Priest identified as pedofiles, is lower than the general population as a whole. So, you accept the transgender over the Priest, how sad. I will pray for you. Anybody have data on transgender pedophiles? Maybe the data will show their population is below the general population as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 13 minutes ago, BLUEDOVE3 said: Speaking of women in the locker room, I seem to remember you people were a little upset about that issue. Still no answer...you people???...hmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 On 5/17/2016 at 9:12 PM, REBgp said: I think BD3, that one thing most of us are concerned about is a pervert, who preys on young girls, who claims to be a transgender so he can access the girls bathroom. Personally, I wouldn't have a problem sharing a bathroom with a transgender. My main concern is my wife, daughter, and granddaughter. Huh? Man your prejudices are seeping through this thread. So, maybe the real reason here is that a person who is different from you, which makes you feel uncomfortable because they are different, qualifies them to be put on the pervert list. So, your scenario is that we are going to get an increase of transgenders preying on the young. Secondly, you want to give us this movie script of perverts dressing as women to access the girl's restroom & prey on young girls. : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: Still no answer...you people???...hmmm. You people is meant to be derogatory, it shows prejudice, is racist, profiling, and stereotyping......Everything he is supposedly against, yet there it is. Like I said, two faced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 7 minutes ago, BLUEDOVE3 said: Huh? Man your prejudices are seeping through this thread. So, maybe the real reason here is that a person who is different from you, which makes you feel uncomfortable because they are different, qualifies them to be put on the pervert list. So, your scenario is that we are going to get an increase of transgenders preying on the young. Secondly, you want to give us this movie script of perverts dressing as women to access the girl's restroom & prey on young girls. : I'm surprised at you Dove. You usually read a post before replying. Maybe you ought to re-read mine. Either that, are your prejudices are seeping through. I tried to reply in a sensible, reasonable manner. I don't have problems with transgenders if they are born that way. Secondly, I never heard (not that it's never happened) of perverts cross dressing to go in girls bathrooms. This decree will give Any man the right to go into a girls bathroom, no matter how they're dressed. They won't have to dress as a woman. Jeans and cowboy boots. Three piece suit. Who's going to ask them if they're TG? You? Me? If we do, we'd probably get sued as LGBTphobes. If you can answer that problem with a sensible, reasonable response, it'll alleviate my fears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 I have no problem with my daughter using the same restroom with a transgender person. At least they have separate stalls for them and privacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 11 minutes ago, REBgp said: I'm surprised at you Dove. You usually read a post before replying. Maybe you ought to re-read mine. Either that, are your prejudices are seeping through. I tried to reply in a sensible, reasonable manner. I don't have problems with transgenders if they are born that way. Secondly, I never heard (not that it's never happened) of perverts cross dressing to go in girls bathrooms. This decree will give Any man the right to go into a girls bathroom, no matter how they're dressed. They won't have to dress as a woman. Jeans and cowboy boots. Three piece suit. Who's going to ask them if they're TG? You? Me? If we do, we'd probably get sued as LGBTphobes. If you can answer that problem with a sensible, reasonable response, it'll alleviate my fears. I read your post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 hour ago, BLUEDOVE3 said: Anybody have data on transgender pedophiles? Maybe the data will show their population is below the general population as well. Pedophilia is the next social norm...hang in there, the Dems will let you know when and if you can publicly approve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDNation Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 So if you go into the DMV and you have male parts but you associate as a female, will they list female on your drivers license? baddog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigS Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 21 minutes ago, NDNation said: So if you go into the DMV and you have male parts but you associate as a female, will they list female on your drivers license? No, they didn't list it on their birth certificate, don't expect it on any other official form. What they don't get to choose is their sex...what they get to choose is how to act. On this subject, I am aware that some people (very very very few) ARE actually born with BOTH sexual organs....now those are the ones, the ONLY ones we should be discussing. Just because you identify better with a group that you weren't born as, doesn't mean you become that....some blacks are accused of being "to white" (whatever that means) for identifying with what some believe to be white ideals. This doesn't make them white, or not black enough...it's just what they believe. They can't change their birth certificates, they can't check the "white" box under race. They can even bleach themselves (Michael Jackson) and it still DOES NOT make them white.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDNation Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 16 minutes ago, CraigS said: No, they didn't list it on their birth certificate, don't expect it on any other official form. What they don't get to choose is their sex...what they get to choose is how to act. On this subject, I am aware that some people (very very very few) ARE actually born with BOTH sexual organs....now those are the ones, the ONLY ones we should be discussing. Just because you identify better with a group that you weren't born as, doesn't mean you become that....some blacks are accused of being "to white" (whatever that means) for identifying with what some believe to be white ideals. This doesn't make them white, or not black enough...it's just what they believe. They can't change their birth certificates, they can't check the "white" box under race. They can even bleach themselves (Michael Jackson) and it still DOES NOT make them white.... This is what I'm getting at. If its not getting changed on official documents, why is it being changed in bathrooms that kids use? LumRaiderFan and CraigS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 2 hours ago, NDNation said: So if you go into the DMV and you have male parts but you associate as a female, will they list female on your drivers license? Yall fishing now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 19 minutes ago, BLUEDOVE3 said: Yall fishing now. Dove, should Rachel Dolezal have been able to change her ethnic identity on her drivers license and other official records? After all, this is what she felt she was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoa Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, stevenash said: Dove, should Rachel Dolezal have been able to change her ethnic identity on her drivers license and other official records? After all, this is what she felt she was. I can give one example FOR SURE I had a 11th grader enroll who was 100% black- no doubt about it - and mom said he was anglo so that's what the Counselor's did put down the race they stated which was obviously wrong don't know how the DMV or jail would view it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigS Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 41 minutes ago, Whoa said: I can give one example FOR SURE I had a 11th grader enroll who was 100% black- no doubt about it - and mom said he was anglo so that's what the Counselor's did put down the race they stated which was obviously wrong don't know how the DMV or jail would view it In most cases, the school admins are as dumb as the fed gov....that's why Cavness and company standing up for the "normal" people is such appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDNation Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 hour ago, BLUEDOVE3 said: Yall fishing now. I look at it as the government trying to throw them a bone without REALLY having to deal with it. Just let them use whatever restroom they want, but it's not OFFICIAL if they can't change it on Official and government documents. So why are we even doing this? baddog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoa Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Craig, I must ask do you really believe Admin are dumb? By definition you must have at least a Masters. I know it is popular for rednecks to dog teachers, admin, etc...but disagree in a somewhat intelligent manner. Showing your a#% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up So which bathroom would Caitlyn Bruce use when this happens...so confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englebert Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Whoa said: Craig, I must ask do you really believe Admin are dumb? By definition you must have at least a Masters. I know it is popular for rednecks to dog teachers, admin, etc...but disagree in a somewhat intelligent manner. Showing your a#% So is disagreeing with someone in an intelligent manner entail throwing out racial slurs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Whoa said: Craig, I must ask do you really believe Admin are dumb? By definition you must have at least a Masters. I know it is popular for rednecks to dog teachers, admin, etc...but disagree in a somewhat intelligent manner. Showing your a#% Plenty of formally educated people that are void of common sense/logic , especially at the Federal level. And part of their problem is the true belief that they know so much more about what is good for the average guy as opposed to the average guy knowing what is good for himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDNation Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 32 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up So which bathroom would Caitlyn Bruce use when this happens...so confusing. I'm getting confused. Is Bruce transgender or transsexual? Does he still have man parts and taking hormones to grow breasts? Isn't transgender just feeling like you're the opposite sex? Like Shiloh Pitt. I can see a man that has transitioned into a woman using the ladies room. I can't see a man that just feels like a woman using the ladies room. Wow, look how far humans have come, we can just change our sex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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