Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 @CBSNews: Hawaii becomes the first state to raise legal smoking age to 21 This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvc184 Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 The most liberal state in the national is taking away people's "rights"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 cant smoke when your eighteen but can go get an abortion man is this world screwed up! smitty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 cant smoke when your eighteen but can go get an abortion man is this world screwed up!Amen. If it wasn't so sad it'd be funny. Pure definition of irony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvc184 Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 cant smoke when your eighteen but can go get an abortion man is this world screwed up!....... and I think in some states down to about 15 without parental consent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 I believe that if a person is old enough to die for their country, they are old enough to drink and smoke. Hey, but that's just me. Abortion should be illegal at any age except in cases of incest and rape. 77 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvc184 Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 I believe that if a person is old enough to die for their country, they are old enough to drink and smoke. Hey, but that's just me. Abortion should be illegal at any age except in cases of incest and rape.I never understood this belief. While everyone that is 18 is "old enough" to serve, the truth is that most will not serve and many will even leave the country if forced to serve as we saw the last time we had a draft. There are exemptions in the laws for people that serve in the military and if this is one of those exemptions then so be it. If a person is actively serving in the military or has done at least two years active and gotten an honorable discharge, let them make the decision. In fact I am all for illegal aliens getting the same exemption. The Dream Act was that if they went to college or joined the military they could become legal. To heck with college as anyone would do that just to get in the country. If you put on the uniform of the US military and do your time, potentially on the front line, you have earned your ticket. Hagar, mytwocents-28 and bullets13 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 Just never jived with me. Here's a gun, go to Vietnam, but you can't buy beer.....and now possibly cigarettes. At least in Louisiana, the drinking age used to be 18. I took advantage of that. Texas even lowered it to 18 for a bit but changed it back. Obviously I am not the only one who views it this way. smitty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvc184 Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 Again, I have no problem if you go in the service that you can make your own decisions. Why give a person that is immature and you can't even force to go to the military the claim that "because of the military" they the benefit. Make it an earned privilege. I don't get the GI Bill because my brother went to Viet Nam and served for 26 years and my father went to Korea and earned a Bronze Star for valor. They earned it, I did not. mytwocents-28 and Mr. Buddy Garrity 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAMFAM10 Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 I started smoking at 18 I sure wish I couldnt make that decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 I started smoking at 18 I sure wish I couldnt make that decision.Interesting statement in bold. Can you explain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Kinda like gun laws only the people that wont to will abide by them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Interesting statement in bold. Can you explain?Someone does his thinking for him? It's what I got out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mytwocents-28 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Again, I have no problem if you go in the service that you can make your own decisions. Why give a person that is immature and you can't even force to go to the military the claim that "because of the military" they the benefit. Make it an earned privilege. I don't get the GI Bill because my brother went to Viet Nam and served for 26 years and my father went to Korea and earned a Bronze Star for valor. They earned it, I did not. amen! +1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 I don't see much difference in a drunk 20 year old and a drunk 21 year old. I know some 17-18 year old guys who are more mature than some men I know who are in their 30s. All i am asking is why does it have to be earned? No one else "earned " it, simply born on an earlier date.....to me, does not equate to maturity.Military service used to be forced when I was growing up. Drinking age was still 21 in Texas. Cigarettes?.......kids as young as 7-8 years old could go to the store and buy them for mom or dad. tvc, you are too well-informed for me to debate. However, I do think my point is valid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAMFAM10 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Someone does his thinking for him? It's what I got out of it.how did you get that from that. 18 is young no matter how you slice it. everyone can say if I knew what I knew now at 18 I would of did BLANK differently. at 18 you're not thinking for the long term. but I guess me regretting a decision of mine at 18 means someone does the thinking for me. SMH. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 how did you get that from that. 18 is young no matter how you slice it. everyone can say if I knew what I knew now at 18 I would of did BLANK differently. at 18 you're not thinking for the long term. but I guess me regretting a decision of mine at 18 means someone does the thinking for me. SMH.Reread your post. What else could anyone get out of that? Maybe you meant you sure wish you "didn't" make that decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAMFAM10 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 I sure wish the law would of been 21 and up that's all. tvc184 and Mr. Buddy Garrity 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvc184 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) I sure wish the law would of been 21 and up that's all.I understood it. Edited January 4, 2016 by tvc184 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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