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well lickety split you are right they have not always hired the best caoches and that goes for all sports..i was mostly talking football and not to get off the subject but here are the coaches starting with wilson and how i rank them...and just for the record i dont or never have had a kid play for any of these coaches her is the list and my few thought on each 1. chief wilson- should not have to explain this one 2. les johnson-not well liked but turned a losing program around and made coaches do there job and did what he thought was best and didnt let the parents control him..only down side was he didnt care about the other sports.. 3. andy griffin- won with the talent he had... good man...and cared about all sports..had the right coaches coaching the right sports....just didnt stick a coach somewhere for the heck of it 4. fred bolton- also cared about all sports respectful record let his coaches coach but stayed on top of everything 5. terry twonzen-i only put him this high up because he was the only coach we have had that liked to throw the ball 20 or thirty times a game...not the same old stuff week after week and i liked that. 6. james conway- not here long enough to form a accurate opinion....thought he was a great athelete director...great guy to talk to..... 7. claude tarver- know i will hear it about him being so low but all this is my opinion....good coach but not a good athlete director....not a good communicater....didnt get everything out of his players..once again just my opinion 8. gary sutton (not sure about his first name)-terrible..terrible..terrible... think this is all the coaches we have had as far back as i can remember anyway..once again my opinion and would like to know what other people thought about this list.....i just hope we get someone who not only is a good fb coach but a good leader because with the size of our school and the talent we have in this town we should be competative in all sports both boys and girls and we need someone that is going to get the right coaches in the right spots regardless of what everyone else thinks...period

No kidding Gulls. Talk about redundant.. redundant.. redundant.. redundant..

Quite true mac. Women can enjoy the outdoors just as much. They don't normally go back to the deer camp or get on bulletin boards and talk about killing and eating the beautiful sights. Women go hunting, enjoy the scenery, kill their game and talk about the event and the ambience. Men go hunting, enjoy the scenery, kill their game and brag about blowing stuff away. Therein lies the male bonding ;D

its not everyday that you see a goalie get megged and we do have a lot of class talk to PN-G and see if they have any

Hes on the Mariners right now i think...i no thats who he got traded to last year at the all star break...what about Cody Strait hes movin up through the Red orginization...I talk to him and he said not this year but next year he'll get a shot at the bigs.

hey money...have u been to hoopinsider??? anybody doing there usual smack talk??

Hey why don't you read my post again there buddy!!! I didn't say anything about Kilgore not being a good basketball team or that the junior college level plays bad basketball. I know that's a tough league, hell we have an Orangefield girl that plays at Kilgore. I was simply stating that some young ladies have to take that route. And I was comparing the SLC to the Big 12 and others, not the junior college level. So I will talk because I do know what I'm talking about. Maybe you need to comprehend better what you read before you attack someone on here.

I saw alot of Impressive stuff from some of the sophmores on the field at the Vidor/LCM Game from both teams, #4, Travis Greenway from Vidor is pretty good, good foot skills and a good view of the field... , but my expectations were set high from the talk here and he didn't look as hot as proclaimed, On the LC-M side #4, Bret Heil, Looks pretty good He played hard and didn't give up and has some good speed. Also #15 from LC-M, T.C. Scalfano, not the fastest kid out there but has good ball control and a good shot in the attacking 3rd on Direct kicks, with a great leg. These were the players that stood out to me.

Way to go OILERS!!!! I knew you had it in you. Great Job Coach Fuller. Lets finish strong and then we can talk about the OTHER GAME. HD its your turn to step it up and play hard.

If you have never seen the teams that play in the conference that Kilgore plays in, I wouldnt talk. Its probably more competitive the Lamar's conference. I know its alot faster game. Agreat place to start if need be. Know what you are talking about. I watch these conference games twice a week.

Tiger, we may talk alot of "smack" but our team can back up 99% of what we say. So far, Vidor has given Lumberton the best game. As a matter of fact, if it would have been a diff. officiating crew i am sure the game would have been 4-3 Vidor. I hope you come to a game so you can see for yourself.

biggen, I forgot to hit on your 12 step program, I did't know what step was facing all your old demons was..1 6 8 or what...Don't worry biggen we are all behind you, and hope you make a full recovery..Talk to Gorilla about tackling..chuckle

Talk about going down hill.....LU is starting to resemble the Oakland Raiders

B.Scott is an all-around package. Probably her biggest problem is height, but she will get in there and hop with the best of them. Kellum is good, but seeing her play against B.Scott...naw. I know that people will talk about how many points she had and that's all great, but I don't think that her defense is up to par with B.Scott. I, too, have heard that her name mingled with Kilgore. Is there any truth to that?

Look tvc184 I'm not asking you to know the history of Silsbee/Jasper or any other team. If you would venture out and look on this web site you can find a lot of history on any team. Being a Southeast Texas football fan one should know a little about Southeast Texas football not just one little corner. People like it better when you can talk about a varity of things. You say you have been watching Ned/PNG since the early 60's and you have never heard people talk about Silsbee/Jasper. You need to get out and get a clue. Southeast Texas football fans talk about all teams in Southeast Texas. It's just what we do. We all love our home teams and some we hate, but we talk about all of them. It's fun, it really is. You should try it, you'll like it. If you want to know when Silsbee/Jasper started playing, look it up. It's on the web site.

yes and I saw that, and Congra to her. I just want people to realize if your going to talk about best around player I feel thats its courtney wilson. She can do everything and is a All around player not just one one-dimensional.

Shark, I understand where your coming from and respect your point of view. Being a senior I understand that the Vidor program has come a very long way in the past 4 years. Please don’t mind allot of the "trash talk" that goes on because a majority of these posts are not done by the soccer team. All the insulting names and posts have come from fans and friends of the players. I thank you for commenting us on having a good team and hope you will get to watch us once again. The mentality of the team right now is set on winning district. That may sound ludicrous since Lumberton has emerged as the dominate team, but, we are very confident we can beat them. I apologize for any crude/ offensive comments that have been posted. And by the way, this is one of Vidor’s captains and I want to thank you on the compliment.

wow lhsraideralumni why dont you get a life and realize were a bunch of kids playin around with eachother so if you dont like the post were sayin then dont read them or make your own forum to write about and you can talk to your self... thanks -The Vidor soccer team

My point exactly....they mean nothing. I was not suggesting that you not be able to express your opinion (PLEASE!) that is the whole point of a forum. And I was just expressing MY opinion. I anticipated a negative reaction.... so now that that's said and done... let's talk about something MORE INTERESTING - like - who's going to be the toughest competition for the Lady Tigers and Lady Bobcats in the playoffs? What's YOUR opinion?

OF's Shores ready for playoff push Gabriel Pruett The Orange Leader ORANGEFIELD — Orangefield senior Jessica Shores has always been able to spot up and drain a three-pointer. Shooting and making plays on both offense and defense is almost second nature. Speaking out and being loud, those two traits took a little time to develop for Shores. Now that she has become vocal on the basketball court, Orangefield Coach Sondra Ancelot has been one happy lady. It really has nothing to do with basketball. Ancelot has just enjoyed watching a young freshman turn into quite a fine young lady. “One of the best things for a coach is to see players go from kids to young adults,†Ancelot said. “It is neat to see them go from followers when they are young to being leaders. She (Shores) is right there in the middle of that mold. She does not like to lose and that right there makes her a winner.†Shores knows her place on a team filled of different roles needed to be filled. Any of about four to five Lady Bobcats can lead the team in scoring each night, steals come in bunches for numerous players and passing the ball around is a must. For Shores, there can only be one girl who is heard above all other voices. “I am the vocal leader,†Shores said. “I seem to be very loud. Instead of being annoying, I use it as a positive. Other players do not always know what to say so I seem to be the one to talk. I like being loud and screaming. “It wasn’t always like this. I was very shy as a freshman and very timid. This team doesn’t care who scores the most. We just want to win and do our jobs.†With the pieces falling into place and each girl doing their own job, the Lady Bobcats are now No. 9 in the state poll and are sitting in a two-way tie with No. 10 Silsbee for the District 21-3A crown. Shores does not want to just tie for the district championship and go a few rounds deep. A trip to Austin her senior year sounds like too much of a good time to pass up. “What we did last year is very exciting to look back on,†Shores said referring to the Lady Bobcats’ push all the way to the regional final. “In 10 years I will be able to look back and really enjoy that time,†she added. “Playing at a college arena (Sam Houston State University) is something I’ll always remember. Now it is time to have twice as much fun and go to Austin.†Shores knows the trip is not a given by a long shot. District 21-3A could be considered one of the toughest districts in the state, giving the Lady Bobcats every chance to get playoff ready. “The district season is narrowing down for us,†Shores explained. “It has been fun to compete around here because there are some tough teams. Everyday the seniors on this team talk about this being our last year and how we are going to leave with no regrets. We want to set the example and bar so all the following teams have something to look upon.†Ancelot agrees this year’s squad has the chance to accomplish any goal they set before themselves. “These kids, including Jessica, have a chance to do some special things,†Ancelot said. “I expect nothing less than a special senior season for them. They stay so close together and are such a close knit bunch. It is a tight little circle of players and friends. It helps that they are just as determined as I am.†The fun is not always confined to being on the basketball court with all her friends for Shores. “Being on the team and going on all the road trips is a blast,†Shores said. “I love it. We make sure to make the road trips a better time.†Shores and Co. have made the road their home in the second half of district play with big games away from Orangefield in Silsbee, Kirbyville and West Orange. After losing their first district game of the season at home against Silsbee, the Lady Bobcats are 9-0 since. Two of the wins came at Silsbee and at Kirbyvile. Orangefield plays at West Orange-Stark on Feb. 2. “We were in a slump that first district game,†Shores said. “All it did was make us work harder. We know we can be better than anyone. Our last year, we are going to be the best we can be at all times.â€

Judge clears way for Mayo to play; coach claims vengeful ref to blame for situation Updated 1/30/2007 6:28 PM ET E-mail | Save | Print | HUNTINGTON, W. Va. — Prep basketball star O.J. Mayo, who won a court order Tuesday blocking a two-game suspension, was the victim of a vengeful referee who wanted him to "keep his mouth shut," his coach said in court documents. Mayo and five Huntington High teammates were cleared to play in a high-profile matchup Tuesday night after a judge prohibited state athletic officials from imposing the suspensions. Huntington (15-0), No. 2 in the latest USA TODAY national rankings, was scheduled to play No. 11 Artesia (21-1) of Lakewood, Calif., as part of the HoopHall Classic in Durham, N.C. The tournament also featured two other teams ranked in the top 10: No. 3 Oak Hill Academy of Mouth of Wilson, Va., against No. 6 Mater Dei of Santa Ana, Calif. "We did get a little victory," Mike Woelfel, Mayo's attorney and an assistant coach at Huntington, said Tuesday. "O.J. is relieved and eagerly looks forward to competing." Cabell County Circuit Judge Dan O'Hanlon set a Feb. 9 hearing for Mayo and the other players. Mayo, who signed a letter-of-intent in November to play next season at Southern California, received two technical fouls in the fourth quarter of Friday's game with Capital and was ejected, triggering an automatic two-game suspension. Five teammates, all reserves, also received two-game suspensions for leaving the bench area. According to referee Mike Lazo's account to the Secondary School Activities Commission, he cited Mayo with the first technical foul for taunting an opponent. Instead of going to the scorer's table to report the first technical, Lazo followed a group of players who had gathered at midcourt. After Mayo twice was told to stay away from the same player, Lazo assessed a second technical. Mayo, hoping to plead his case, followed Lazo to the scorer's table and Lazo fell. "As I turned my head towards him he came in contact (with) me, causing me to fall to the floor. While I was on the floor, (Mayo) was using profanity," Lazo said. Under state rules, a student who "in protest lays hands or attempts to lay hands upon an official" can be declared ineligible for up to a year. In his court filing, Woelfel said witness accounts contradicted Lazo. Huntington coach Lloyd McGuffin said in a statement Lazo indicated at the beginning of the game that "Mayo better not talk with him tonight because he is not going to put up with him at all. He said he needs to keep his mouth shut." During the game, Mayo told his teammates during a huddle at the free-throw line to stay out of foul trouble. Lazo interrupted, "telling him he needs to be worried about himself because he is going to toss him out of the game if he doesn't shut up," McGuffin's statement said. McGuffin said after the second technical was called, Mayo and Lazo bumped into one another. "Lazo then gets his feet tangled and takes a couple of steps and flops his arms and fakes a fall," the coach said. Mayo, considered one of the nation's top seniors, transferred to Huntington last fall after leading Cincinnati's North College Hill to two Ohio Division III championships. Huntington has won back-to-back Class AAA titles in West Virginia. "I never wanted to come and (have) this happen," Mayo told WSAZ-TV shortly before leaving for North Carolina. Under SSAC rules, if a student plays under a restraining order that is later reversed, the team could be forced to forfeit any victories in which the student played. Woelfel accused the SSAC of denying due process to suspended players. "The judge wants to look at that issue," Woelfel said. Also, SSAC rules aren't clear whether punishments can be imposed during out-of-state games, he said. SSAC Executive Director Mike Hayden, who met privately with Mayo and his family at Huntington High on Tuesday, didn't immediately return a telephone message.

So whitewood are you proud of the fact you area physical crap talking team. Ashame, taking soccer and bringing back old vidor soccer or should i say.. making it american football. What I saw ofyou all was you were pretty descent. But from the stands you dont hear the smack talk. Didnt see alot of physical play but maybe my one game wasnt enouph. Be proud to be a soccer player, not a football.

They can't talk about going to state just yet because they have to get past this tough district first.

Don't all the teams play each other twice in district? Isn't a little early to talk about a district championship? But I do agree Lumberton is the team to beat, I see thing this way for the top 3.... 1. Lumberton 2. PN-G 3. Vidor or Nederland

Hey guys, can we grow up a little, please? This forum is for soccer discussion, not juvenile name calling. Take you personal aggendas elsewhere so we don't lose this opportunity to talk about local high school soccer.