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All this talk makes me even more anxious for that first day of practice, and my first game as a senior.....

West Orange-Stark defense in the 80's. they were incredible and always came through in clutch situations. next would be Jasper in the 80's those guys were rough and tough and put fear into you. talk about a couple of powerhouses. 8)

You both make good points. I like this football talk about Lamar University. Just one point, there hasn't always been a DI-AA division. Yes, Lamar competed at the DI level and one year played in a "Bowl" game. I'm sure Coop can get his hands on information about the opponent and the year Lamar played in a bowl game. I do think Lamar lost the game. Record 0-1 in bowl games. One other point, I wouldn't be so quick to write off the possiblity of Todd Dodge as a HC here. There are a lot of wealthy folk here in SE Texas and since the mis-givens created by Lamar dropping football and promises being broken haven't given a dime to Lamar Athletics. You bring back football and hire a guy like Todd Dodge Lamar could raise the funds to pay a HC in the area of $250,000 a year plus incentives. There are a lot more millionairs in SE Texas than most people realize and quiet a few of those are Lamar University alumni.

If you would read the last sentence, it is directed to all people, including people from Lumberton. That was my first response to all the negative talk that is being spread around. The boys from Lumberton need to focus on the job at hand, which is to beat Bridge City. I can promise you it is not the players talking trash, it is fans and or parents. So this is my last response to the negative talk, and would like to say GOOD LUCK to all the teams playing Friday Night.

With so much talk about the new local 3A district having teams like Silsbee, Jasper, WO-S, and BC, I think the way Hamshire Fannett has played so far has turned some heads.

Lets talk about teams. We already have talked about Nederland, LCM and Nederaland lets look at the other teams. Ozen- They always have talent plus their coach is the brainchild of basketball in southeast Texas. You know they will be good. They don't ever rebuild, they reload. Central always get the extra immunition after Ozen reloads. They will be really good. They have more depth then they have had in a while. Demond Chambers will lead the charge along with Brandon Williams, Charles Thomas, Jamar Gulley and a host of others coming from the football field. Dayton, new to the district, will be a suprise. They have three quality kids returning. A Guard that was really good last year and Two big guys six six and up. Lumberton could have been good this year but they are starting over with a new coach and he is really a football coach. Everyone thinks that Vidor is going to be down. Not!! They always keep some shooters in their pockets and they know how to find a way to win. Their weakness will be depth and the fact that they are under new leadership. That pretty much rounds out the district. Oh yeah, PNG my fault. The Coach does a great job with what he has. PNG is a football school and that is were most of the athletes are. They will have a veteran squad though

Good luck to everyone!! Glad to see Lumberton doing well. Let's all talk about Sports and the games this week. Thanks.

OK LOOK!!!!!! All this got started two weeks ago with the Silsbee clan talking crap about how it was a SCRIMMAGE and that it didn't really matter. That talk just kinda pissed me off a little since I'm a PARENT that wants the best for his child playing on this team. I don't remember reading one thing about we're going undefeated and gonna win state. I did read though that moral was up BIG TIME for not just the team, but the whole community. Why the smack talk keeps going is because people like piratefan keep egging it on and talking crap about us. Why try raining on our parade? Let us enjoy a little success while it last. To the players and fans of Lumberton, I apoligize if I offended anyone with my response to defending the RAIDER NATION!!!!! GOOD LUCK TO ALL SCHOOLS THIS YEAR!!!!!!

I agree with pirate im from lumberton and i am one of the seniors that hasn't won a game in high school untill last friday and i am even tired of hearing people get on here and run their mouths we have won all the scrimmages and one game that is no reason to sit here and talk trash if you really want to open peoples eyes quit talkin trash and just play to win and prove everyone wrong when and if lumberton makes playoffs then all the trash talkin can start but untill then your just pissing people off and makin it to where they really dont want us to win so all im askin is for it to stop

Well 83/60 you need to tell your buddies to sit back and shut there mouth. They are the ones that get on here and talk down to other people.go back and read L-town stunners post and see what he writes..Then ask yourself is it US ,or is it some of the people from Lumberton.. Not all of the people from Lumberton are doing this..But you and the other people have already opened your mouths up.So dont already make guarantees for next year.This year is the year of the Raiders. There is a young man on here from lumberton's football team and he was about the only one who made sense.he said it isnt them that are talking all this trash,it is only a few people...I have respect for that guy and his teammates.

Eagletown, I've seen you before and you ain't much to look at so I will just watch the game. HA HA HA. Sorry my brother but that was too easy. You know I love ya. Hope the EAGLES smash bellville. Then we get two weeks to talk mess. Shame you never won a state championship because you would be a super God.....

Yes raiderpride is VERY right..most of these "kids" on here do not play on the lumberton team but i for one do and i and REALLY getting tired of L-town stunners crap bc i know no one on the football team would be talkin like this bc we all know that we have along way to go and its only going to get harder , ya sure we might get excited about a few wins and stuff but for me i cant really help it, being one of the soph that got moved up to varsity last year i forgot how good it feels to win but L-town stunner is taking it over the edge i mean i dont mind people stickin up for us im all for that but he is kinda ruining our name...and i hope i do find out who it is bc i would like to have a talk with him myself! i hope u all dont think that the lumberton team is talking trash and all that stuff and know that we DO play with class.

Newton and WOS don't talk as much as these guys from Lumberton and we've won State!

the way yall talk..I might skip this weeks Vidor game and go to the Bc /Lumberton game and sit on BC side. why dont yall shut up and act like yall have won before instead of a bunch of silly immature kids.Win with class!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's Monday morning and there are already 3 pages of smack talk for the BC/Lumberton game. This should be an interesting week on the ol' message board here. Lumberton fans and players seem to be pretty high after winning for the first time in the Bush administration. Congrats, boys.

This one is not going to be as close as you think. Lumberton has gotten better, but not good enough. Dishon has another steller performance or two left in him, and I don't think Lumberton can stop him, also what is all this talk about Dishon being all B.C. has. Well I say, "DON"T BELIEVE THE HYPE" to that!! I've seen this group play several times in the past. They have good talent and this will start to show as the season progresses. Sorry Lumberton fans, but the scrimmages are over and its a long way to the end of the season. :cry: B.C. 30 or more Lumberton 13

Talk about late to see this!! I'll pick the two that aren't decided yet. Ohio State @ Texas Texas Tech @ UTEP

Why not? you sure seem to talk alot of crap on us. and you should care because you are going to eat every word you say. wait til we win the 2nd,3rd,4th,5th......... games then youll learn to shut your mouth when you dont know anything about lumberton or the team.

Channel 6 will have their tailgate party Friday Night at Lamar for WB/Central and at the Orange Bowl WOS/LCM. Yours truly will be interviewed to talk about the site and the Partnership.

Here is a given, The Mustang die hards, GoStangs,Kicker,HEB,Grad and many more will always trash LCM regardless of what the school, Coaches or Players try to do to become more successfull in football. The whole BS about BOJO is getting rather ridiculous and listening to the grown men trash it is even worse. The Coach is trying to get the kids and community to believe they can and will be better and to work harder. Who cares what slogan they use, go back and look who started trashing it and it is traced right back to a WOS adult. I have read thousands of post on many boards over the last 3 or 4 years and one think remains the same, WOS adults continue to trash everything and anything LCM does, and the funny part is I have never seen a "REAL" LCM poster trash WOS. You guys are better in football.... great....LCM is trying and will become better. They talk about all the coaches leaving and one of the reasons is Coach Moody works long hours and will never be accused of not putting forth 100% effort. I have over the years defended the Bears and even though we have moved on I will still feel the need to attempt to stop the continous bashing. Please get over it and move on these are kids. I know some of you and you know me, even if I disliked someone or something as bad as you guys do LCM I would in time get over it............. I predict WOS will beat LCM tonight but I hope for the community it is a good game and that someone actually gives props to both teams. Good Luck to both teams and let's hope they both avoid injuries.

Coop, Why would you let one of your moderators talk such nonsense on this board. Talking trash on an entire community. Gostangs, Please start signing your name. Maybe you should seek some therapy to deal with all of your anger toward the LCM community. I mean did they do some bad things to you when you were a child or something. If so there are better ways to vent than on a message board.

77's feelings are hurt, so take it easy on the fellow. I suggest we just talk about how strong his bear team has been in the past, how much potential they have this year as the favorite to win a district championship, and how great their new mantra is.

Your not the only one. The PNG fan behind me had at least 3 or 4 bottles of Burbon before he arrived. You talk about funny! He would yell "Pass the Ball....Pass the Ball" then Brenham would intercept and he would yell "What are you an Idiot" (for Passing the Ball)....... I had my very own PNG play-by-play guy who told me everything that happen on every play...........all in slirrrrrrrrrr

But Jody, you said this was BC's year to win the district! Oh... wait... I forget that you admittedly talk out of your @#s!

Don't sell athletics short. (This is a GREAT article. ) Don't sell athletics short By JEFF KING Special to the Star-Telegram Growing up in a small rural community in the North, I was not given many of the educational benefits that students receive in Tarrant County. I had a hard time sitting still, so I was often put where I would bother the least number of people. I was told that I did not need to enroll in biology as a high school freshman because that was for students going to college. In my sophomore year, I was again told not to worry about taking any more science classes -- it wasn't going to be necessary. In my senior year, I was scheduled into shop, agricultural mechanics, art, chorus and physical education. My dad was a truck driver, and my friends' dads were truck drivers or farmers. The school system was setting me up to do what the generations before me had done. What the "school" did not know was that I had an older brother who was able to continue his education because football opened a door to college. I knew I was going to college because I had to: It was the only way to the National Football League. The coaches did not mind that my motor never shut off. They took an interest in me and seemed to care about me. Coaches were always checking to make sure I was passing my classes (not that a monkey could have failed the classes in which I was enrolled). But the coaches did so much more. They made me believe that through hard work, dedication and determination, I (we, the team) could overcome any obstacles that stood in the way. I became a leader (team captain) and gained self-confidence. My parents started coming to football games by my senior year (though to this day, neither Mom nor Dad knows the difference between a field goal and an extra-point attempt). When I started college, I had to draw on those lessons from high school athletics to have success in the classroom. My family did not prepare me for college, nor did my high school education. Art and chorus were educational but did nothing to prepare me for college anatomy and physiology. Shop and mechanics serve me well to this day, but college algebra was a bear because I completed only general math in high school. Thank goodness those coaches taught me to believe in myself, work hard and be dedicated to my goals. I found out quickly that the NFL was not on my horizon. I was not quite big enough or fast enough, and the injuries started piling up. I met with the head coach of the university I attended and told him that I planned to become a coach. My playing days appeared to be behind me, but I wanted to do something that would help me become a good coach. I asked if I could follow him or the other coaches to learn what it took to be a good coach. He agreed on the condition he could count on me every day. I started by getting his coffee, making copies and opening the mail. Later, I was taught to break down film, coach linebackers, greet and recruit potential players and (most important) how to be a professional. I graduated from college and moved to Texas to start my teaching/coaching career. I wanted to be a coach because coaches always helped me become a better person. I coached for two years before realizing that teacher/coach pay was not providing the lifestyle that I expected as a college graduate. I went back to school and received a double master's degree two years later in business. But to this day, I've never used it. I found that when you remember that the kids are the reason you get up early and stay late, the paycheck becomes a bit less important. A Star-Telegram columnist recently suggested that athletics shouldn't get more funding when the student dropout rate and academics need attention first. I disagree. I easily could have become a dropout if not for the athletics support group that existed throughout my educational experience. I've also seen a number of different student-athletes achieve success because of the extracurricular activities in which they were involved. Even though the majority of the success stories I can talk about are athletic, nothing sends a chill down my spine like hearing that marching band for the first time each fall. Many band members are learning the same discipline, work ethic and confidence that are taught in athletics. Please do not forget ROTC, cheerleading, drill team, drama, debate and similar activities. Each program has a caring educator trying to reach the students in his or her own way. I wish that when one program or another receives special funding or recognition, support would be the first response rather than jealousy. I wish that when one side of town is able to put something special together, others would celebrate the success, and envy would subside, so that both sides could work together for the benefit of all students regardless of geographic location. A former student-athlete recently visited with me. This young man had traveled a difficult road from a tough neighborhood with limited role models. He was working out in anticipation of the NFL draft. I congratulated him on a great collegiate career and wished him the very best with professional football. "Coach, I'm going to graduate this spring whether I'm drafted or not," he said with the proudest look possible on his face. I don't know what it's like to receive a $100,000 raise. For that matter, I don't know what it's like to make $100,000 a year. But at that moment, I felt like a million dollars. When I met this young man, he was just a boy. Many people in his life had given up on him. Some of them were teachers. When he started excelling athletically, he had to pass academically to perform in the games. Then he had to take classes on the college preparatory plan. Then he had to go to a junior college because he had not quite made the required academic standard for a four-year school. Now he was about to graduate from a major private college in Texas. I have coached athletes who had to ride the city bus -- not a school bus -- to get to practice, just so they could be part of an athletic team. Two of those boys had been in trouble in school before, for both academics and behavior. One of them was on or near the honor roll all last year, while the other passed his classes, many of them with A's and B's. Both worked hard at becoming the good role models we often discussed. Today, they thrive as student-athletes. With proper encouragement, most educators will go above and beyond to help students reach for the stars. It does not matter what department that educator's title falls under. We all need resources. We all need to strive to become better because we all can have an impact on improving student performance.